Transformers movie: Where to go from here?

Bug-Eyed Earl · Post by **Bug-Eyed Earl** » 2007-07-09 05:37am

This isn't so much about a sequel as to how the government would handle knowing everything that happened and that there are Autobots living on Earth. I assume Prime spoke to the SecDef or someone higher rather than just inviting himself and the others to live there. So where do we go from there? How do we treat the Autobots(both the ones in the movie and any future arrivals), and how do we prepare for a possible DEcepticon counterattack?

My thoughts:

-all Autobots must register their presence and their chosen alt mode, as well as any new one if they change it.

-Quid pro quo. Share some of your technology with us. Maybe we can be on Mars by 2015 or have cars that go 200 mpg.

-mass produce Sabot rounds. Make them standard armament.

-go public ASAP- after teh huge downtown battle there's no point in trying to keep it secret. If they haven't already. If they go public, they have to assure the people that the Autobots present are more than capable of assisting in the event of another decepticon attack. So in that case, they have to wait at least long enough for more Autobots to arrive. It would suck, however, if the Autobots who showed up first were generally useless like Blurr, Seaspray, Beachcomber or Cosmos.

-going public would make it easier for the Autobots to construct some kind of permanent base. Death Valley would be a good choice- it's generally inhospitable for parts of the year so there isn't too much traffic to begin with.

so any other ideas? What about public reaction? the individual Autobots becoming celebrities? I think about all this because 20 years passed between the cartoon and the 86 movie, and after seeing endless varations of robot battles, a part of me is interested in the day-to-day aspects of Tfs living on Earth.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-07-09 06:39am

Surely it's more likely that the Autobots are allowed to remain after agreeing to remain hidden and maintain some stipulated relationship with the US? I can't see Optimus 'my bad' Prime seeing eye-to-eye with the incompetent President.

Kon_El · Post by **Kon_El** » 2007-07-09 09:38am

Stark wrote: I can't see Optimus 'my bad' Prime seeing eye-to-eye with the incompetent President.

He was in one sceene where all you saw was his feet. All he said was that he wanted a ding dong. How does this demonstrate him as incompetent,,,, Ding Dongs are good damnit.

tim31 · Post by **tim31** » 2007-07-09 11:04am

Pretty much every film set in the present day depicts the POTUS as incompetent, if only with a reference to snacks.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-07-09 11:24am

I don't have any story or plot ideas, but at the time there are at least a couple of characters I would definitely like to see in the sequel.

First is a mass displacement Soundwave (which I believe they're already planning).

Second is Arcee, since had already been fully designed with a motorcycle alt mode before being replaced by Ironhide in the final film. At only about nine feet tall, it would allow a much greater degree of interaction with the live actors compared to the rest of the Transformer characters, which sort of follows the standard human-giant scenario.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2007-07-09 11:37am

If they put Arcee in sequal it would nice to know if "her" voice would any more femine compared to those Trasformers we've already seen.

BTW does anyone find it ironic that the POTUS talked (the little he did) with an texas accent (a bit over the top texas accent to make it clear).

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-07-09 11:49am

Lord Revan wrote:If they put Arcee in sequal it would nice to know if "her" voice would any more femine compared to those Trasformers we've already seen.

I'd assume that they would cast a woman for Arcee's VA. Otherwise it doesn't really make much sense to do a female Transformer and then not make her female.

BTW does anyone find it ironic that the POTUS talked (the little he did) with an texas accent (a bit over the top texas accent to make it clear).

I can't really see how it could be considered ironic, since it was basically supposed to be Bush.

Dark Hellion · Post by **Dark Hellion** » 2007-07-09 01:09pm

I seriously just want to see the constucticons. See the power of the True Devastator. Plus the would be a great way to get Megatron out of the trench. They have a crane, it should work.

Tanasinn · Post by **Tanasinn** » 2007-07-09 02:06pm

I forsee several companies suing the Autobots for copyright infringement, demanding payment for "stealing" their automobile designs.

NeoGoomba · Post by **NeoGoomba** » 2007-07-09 02:34pm

With the open transmission Optimus sent out to the Autobots, Shockwave (I HOPE) and the other Decepticons would also hear it, and, having already beaten the Autobots on Cybertron, would want to finish the job and wipe out the survivors, and avenge the death of Megatron.

Part of me wishes they kept Sector 7 up and running, but instead of being so covert, they would actively partner with the Autobots as a diplomatic outlet for mutual cooperation.

I'd like to see Starscream come back with the other Seekers to maybe do their own thing while the Decepticons proper do their thing. Wheeljack would be pretty neat to see show up, tinkering with Earth tech. Regardless, they need to keep the core lineups small, but maybe have a ton of nameless cannonfodder 'bots. And whoever leads the charge on the Decepticon side NEEDS more screentime than what Megatron got.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2007-07-09 03:29pm

I think Starscream probably ran off to find the other Decepticons to announce Megatron's untimely death and that he is the new leader of the Decepticons. I also think that Shockwave and Starscream will be the new villains of the next movie, since i think it will be Shockwave that Starscream encounters. I don't know if we are going to have Skywarp or Thundercracker though, because I understand they left them out because they only wanted one Jet Fighter transformer.

I'd like the next Autobots introduced to be Arcee, Hot Rod, and Grimlock.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2007-07-09 05:25pm

I see the government saying that there was some sort of top-secret program that had gone amuck in the city, and they paying off people who witnessed it so that they would keep their mouths shut.

Sector 7 would still be disbanded, with a new, more competent black-ops organization being created and would have bases of operation set up around the country and in allied countries where soldiers trained in anti-NBE techniques, along with hackers who are trained to counter (or at least retard or isolate) NBE hacking techniques.

The existence of the Cybertronians would be kept secret because people aren't ready for that, man. They'll go out and start blowing up cars on the street. The Autobots would of course be allowed amnesty and their comrades would be allowed to come to Earth, assuming that they followed 'the rules'- no disclosing your existence to civilians unless absolutely necessary, no wrecking havoc on places, periodic reports to Optimus Prime and the new black-ops organization.

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2007-07-09 05:27pm

I can see the Autobots trying to find a way to further reproduce (unless they can reproduce sexually with a female autobot)

Definately a technology exchange. Imagine the astrological data they have alone.

Going public is a must. The reaction of the religious leaders would be awesome to watch.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2007-07-09 06:08pm

Dark Hellion wrote: Plus the would be a great way to get Megatron out of the trench. They have a crane, it should work.

I spent the hour after the film discussing that problem with a fellow TF fan. The Constructicons could work, but of course, you'd need something able to allow them to position themselves over the trench. Solution: Tidal Wave...

Coalition · Post by **Coalition** » 2007-07-09 10:20pm

JME2 wrote:
I spent the hour after the film discussing that problem with a fellow TF fan. The Constructicons could work, but of course, you'd need something able to allow them to position themselves over the trench. Solution: Tidal Wave...

Or just steal a supertanker, and use it as a base. Later on, the Autobots/military manage to sink it, and it becomes the core of the underwater Decepticon base (as seen in the cartoon).

The Constructicons would be useful because the Decepticons need to build a base somewhere out of the way. Combat machines aren't that good, so they grab a few construction vehicles. Devastator is the combined form. Unfortunately, the combination isn't that good, so you have a dangerous giant. This becomes the method the Autobots use to beat him, they lure him into ambushes, and set off explosives.

I'd like to see Shockwave and Devastator in different movies though. Devastator is raw power, while Shockwave is cold logic. Throughout the movie Shockwave would make small decisions, and at the end the decisions are shown to have made the Decepticons vastly more powerful.

Well, maybe they could be in the same movie. Shockwave appears to be a secondary robot, making small changes. Ha rarely takes part in battle planning, explaining his programming is not suited for that type of planning. At the end of the movie, there is the big battle, and lots of property destruction. Back at the Decepticon base, Megatron complains that the Decepticons have been defeated. Shockwave explains otherwise, that the Decepticons are much more powerful because of his actions.

For sheer property destruction though: Omega Supreme vs Devastator.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-07-09 10:30pm

The movie suggested to me that unlike the 80s show, there is NOBODY on Cybertron. It's a dead world without the Allspark, but Prime regularly talks as if *all* Autobots were searching the stars (I imagine the Decepticons are doing the same). This of course instantly plays into the 'sequence of waves' that allows the franchise to have many sequels without Highlander 'oh these guys were in caves lol' nonsense.

Next movie: another bunch of Decepticons shows up! In the hour of need, another bunch of Autobots shows up! Prime is killed, but luckily the next lot has a kickin-rad Ultra Magnus in it! Repeat - bunch of x lead by famous character y show up, battle.

However, I'd really like the fragment of the Allspark to be mounted in a big green device that can a) create new Transformer life and b) shoot deadly beams at Prime once Thunderwing steals it.

NeoGoomba · Post by **NeoGoomba** » 2007-07-09 10:33pm

Stark wrote:The movie suggested to me that unlike the 80s show, there is NOBODY on Cybertron. It's a dead world without the Allspark, but Prime regularly talks as if *all* Autobots were searching the stars (I imagine the Decepticons are doing the same). This of course instantly plays into the 'sequence of waves' that allows the franchise to have many sequels without Highlander 'oh these guys were in caves lol' nonsense.

Next movie: another bunch of Decepticons shows up! In the hour of need, another bunch of Autobots shows up! Prime is killed, but luckily the next lot has a kickin-rad Ultra Magnus in it! Repeat - bunch of x lead by famous character y show up, battle.

However, I'd really like the fragment of the Allspark to be mounted in a big green device that can a) create new Transformer life and b) shoot deadly beams at Prime once Thunderwing steals it.

SHAZAM!

You have created the Philosophers Stone to turn ordinary paper into box office GOLD...at least for one more movie

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2007-07-09 11:55pm

Stark wrote:The movie suggested to me that unlike the 80s show, there is NOBODY on Cybertron. It's a dead world without the Allspark, but Prime regularly talks as if *all* Autobots were searching the stars (I imagine the Decepticons are doing the same). This of course instantly plays into the 'sequence of waves' that allows the franchise to have many sequels without Highlander 'oh these guys were in caves lol' nonsense.

Next movie: another bunch of Decepticons shows up! In the hour of need, another bunch of Autobots shows up! Prime is killed, but luckily the next lot has a kickin-rad Ultra Magnus in it! Repeat - bunch of x lead by famous character y show up, battle.

However, I'd really like the fragment of the Allspark to be mounted in a big green device that can a) create new Transformer life and b) shoot deadly beams at Prime once Thunderwing steals it.

Dammit, biznatch...next up you're going to spout off how Galvatron will come back through time via a hundred different methods and then begin the Time Wa...uh yeah.

Let's not give more ideas, given how easily Furman's can get more screwed as time goes on

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Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-07-10 12:53am

I'm just a sucker for any badguy who beats his opponents to death with the Holy Grail.

generator_g1 · Post by **generator_g1** » 2007-07-10 07:49am

My hypothetical movie 2 scenario:

The Autobots are called in to an unusual dig site in the badlands of Utah where they find the static-locked Grimlock and the Dinobots. Starscream, Shockwave and some new Decepticons come back to earth and give the Autobots a good thrashing. Ratchet conveniently stayed behind and manages to reactivate Grimlock and the others. As Starscream and the others start to celebrate their victory, Grimlock and the rest of the Dinobots show up and kick their ass.

While Starscream is getting his ass kicked, we see Shockwave on some hidden Decepticon base (Nemesis?) reactivating Megatron.

Enter Movie #3

Although they might have to change some of the other beast modes of the Dinobots to match the fossil record. As far as I remember, there were no more stegosaurs (Snarl) and apatosaurs (Sludge) in the Cretaceous. Although they can have the Dinobots land near a dinosaur amusement park and scan the statues there....

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2007-07-10 07:57am

Though I want Grimlock, I'd rather not have that plot.

Movei 2 should be Galvatron.

Movie 3 can only be one thing: Unicron.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2007-07-10 12:51pm

Grimlock! ROAR!

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2007-07-10 05:01pm

No Dinobots. They were silly enough to begin with, but they made more sense in the cartoon where the Autobots had a public base and weren't trying to blend in. Having an alt form of a robot T-rex isn't much of a disguise.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2007-07-10 09:50pm

Imperial Overlord wrote:No Dinobots. They were silly enough to begin with, but they made more sense in the cartoon where the Autobots had a public base and weren't trying to blend in. Having an alt form of a robot T-rex isn't much of a disguise.

But... but... The Dinobots were COOL! I loved how they played them out, and Swoop was the best after Grimlock!

Fire Fly · Post by **Fire Fly** » 2007-07-11 02:42am

For Decepticons, I demand that Soundwave plus cassettes and another aerial Decepticon (Thundercracker perhaps) to be in it. Make Soundwave some sort of a surveillance aircraft or a military communications vehicle and make the cassettes UAVs (something like this).

The second movie should deal with Megatron's resurrection and eventual betrayal by Starscream and the third movie should be about Galvatron. Please, please don't bring in Unicron. A planet sucking machine that looks like a Death Star? Just keep the focus on the Autobots and the Decepticons. Going too big will make Transformers become like Spiderman 3, a piece of crap that got taken over by fanboy desires which ultimately destroyed the plot set up by the previous movies. Just keep focus.

Also, I agree with no Dinobots. That's not even going to remotely work in the setting of the movie. The Constructicons, sure, but not the Dinobots.