Tollan Ion Cannon vs. Hoth Ion Cannon

Sektor31 · Post by **Sektor31** » 2003-01-25 12:38pm

Which one blasts the other first?

Post by **NecronLord** » 2003-01-25 12:47pm

Can the Hoth Ion canon fire on ground targets?

septesix · Post by **septesix** » 2003-01-25 01:34pm

Hoth Ion Cannon only disable ships. Tollan Ion Cannon blasted said ship (although smaller than an ISD) to little pieces in one shot....

If you somehow get them to be able to fired at each other, Tollan Ion Cannon wins.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2003-01-25 02:12pm

The Tollan Ion Cannon can fire on ground targets. it does it in "Between two fires"

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2003-01-25 03:21pm

septesix wrote:Hoth Ion Cannon only disable ships. Tollan Ion Cannon blasted said ship (although smaller than an ISD) to little pieces in one shot....

If you somehow get them to be able to fired at each other, Tollan Ion Cannon wins.

The Hoth Ion cannon is described as being destructive in teh canon novelization for TESB. Canon wins over official.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-01-25 03:24pm

Rouge Squadron had a frigate broken up and destroyed by ground based ion cannon fire, and a couple shuttles where exploded by single hits. Ion cannons disable electronics, but they also cause considerable physical damage. This is well established and has been gone over many times before here.

Sektor31 · Post by **Sektor31** » 2003-01-25 03:31pm

In Pretense, Tollan fire destroyed 2 Goa'uld motherships in 2 volleys, with 1 volley hitting each mothership and passing through their shields.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-01-25 03:34pm

Tollan cannon wins

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2003-01-25 05:51pm

Sektor31 wrote:In Pretense, Tollan fire destroyed 2 Goa'uld motherships in 2 volleys, with 1 volley hitting each mothership and passing through their shields.

How much punishment can the Goa'uld take?

In the EGW&T the planetary turbolasers are rated as being 4x the output of a planetary ion cannon (like the one at Hoth). If we conservatively assumed that the Planetary TL is equal to an Accalmator's TL (roughly 200 GT) this means an ion cannon has 50 GT worth of punch to it. And this is LOW end. It could easily be an order of magnitude or more greater.

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2003-01-25 05:52pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:Rouge Squadron had a frigate broken up and destroyed by ground based ion cannon fire, and a couple shuttles where exploded by single hits. Ion cannons disable electronics, but they also cause considerable physical damage. This is well established and has been gone over many times before here.

I don't remember that. I remember the Borleias situation with the ion cannons, and ion cannon fire apparently destroyed an X-wing, but nothing about destroying shuttles or frigates (there was one ground troop transport that was knocked out and it crashed into the Borleias shields, but that was all.)

Are you talking about something else?

Post by **NecronLord** » 2003-01-26 07:51am

Connor MacLeod wrote:
Sektor31 wrote:In Pretense, Tollan fire destroyed 2 Goa'uld motherships in 2 volleys, with 1 volley hitting each mothership and passing through their shields.
How much punishment can the Goa'uld take?

In the EGW&T the planetary turbolasers are rated as being 4x the output of a planetary ion cannon (like the one at Hoth). If we conservatively assumed that the Planetary TL is equal to an Accalmator's TL (roughly 200 GT) this means an ion cannon has 50 GT worth of punch to it. And this is LOW end. It could easily be an order of magnitude or more greater.

Goa'uld Ha'tak sheild capacitance is over 9000 GT, as they can sit on a blue giant's photosphere without difficulty for hours.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2003-01-26 09:02am

If we conservatively assumed that the Planetary TL is equal to an Accalmator's TL

Which is funny considering Barrel Dementions(Plantary Ion cannons are roughly a quater of an ISD just based on size alone, HELL the Barrel is Bigger than the Bridge Neck section!)

But no I don't think we should be that convserative

Thats like cacluation Iowa 16" Gun firepower based on a .22 Semi-Automatic Handgun...