Allspark hits the big apple (RAR!)

Zor · Post by **Zor** » 2007-08-12 12:37am

Today, something very odd happens. While everyone goes normally around the world, an odd metal cube (which has been compressed down to its compact form) with markings on it from some far off planet populated by sapient robotic lifeforms falls to the ground in the middle of the great lawn in central park. The energy of the Impact causes it to release its energy out over a sphere with a radius of 8.3 kilometers, which makes the cars, soda machines, game consols, cellphones and most complicated machines more than meets the eye. For sake of argument, the transformers that are created, while feral are sapeint.

What happens?

Zor

Jaevric · Post by **Jaevric** » 2007-08-12 12:44am

A whole lot of people die in various fashions before the machines can be destroyed by the police or the National Guard.

After that, there's a huge upswing in Luddite anti-technology beliefs, while at the same time scientists fall all over themselves to examine the Allspark. Other nations have a screaming hissy fit when the United States refuses to share its findings or let them have access to the device.

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2007-08-12 01:37am

Jaevric wrote:A whole lot of people die in various fashions before the machines can be destroyed by the police or the National Guard.

I think you are underestimating the VAST amount of machines in such an area...

Ever Car and Vehical is now a Transformer in that radius... Busses, Taxies, Cars, Trucks, Semis.. ALL Every Computer, TV, etc etc...

We are talking about tens of THOUSANDS Of sapient but deadly feral Transformers, everywhere from Cellphone sized to As big as optimus and Megs. And what about ships? If this hits Central Park, and everything wihtin eight miles, its going to spread out into the bay.. And there are ALWAYS Large tankers there.. really BIG Cargo ships.

And how many MORE tens of thousands of machines/new transformers wil lcome to life abored said Cargo ships?

The Sheere number of machines, the density of it boggles the mind!

Isn't JFK withen 8 miles of Central Park? Cause if so, there goes a bunc hof planes, 747s...

The level of being completly and utterly screwed is immense. By the time the Army is mobilized, everone in the radius will have either left or will be killed. The New transformers have two choices.

The either feel regret, and remorse, and we must now with live with an IMMENSE amount of new sapient machines, or, they decided to get rid of the "Fleshlings" and we are SCREWED.

A FEW Decepticons were enough to hack the best computer networks on Earth and play politics to the point of getting oursevlves into war. Imagine what Tens of Thousands of similar Transformers would do.

Even if they we're "Babies" And had to learn such things, the immense NUMBER of transformers has us well and truelly fucked.

Really, You would have to Nuke it.

chitoryu12 · Post by **chitoryu12** » 2007-08-12 01:42am

Isn't 8.4 kilometers somewhere along the lines of five or six miles, though?

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2007-08-12 01:52am

ok, my mistak, 5or 6 miles instead of 8, misse that it was in Km.

Still, we are Screwed...

Raw Shark · Post by **Raw Shark** » 2007-08-12 05:31am

Crossroads Inc wrote:ok, my mistak, 5or 6 miles instead of 8, misse that it was in Km.

Should be just enough to hit LaGuardia.

Bounty · Post by **Bounty** » 2007-08-12 05:39am

I wonder if the Allspark can create city Transformers like Fortress Maximus. Imagine the city of New York transforming into a giant robot and stomping through the East Coast...

Havok · Post by **Havok** » 2007-08-12 06:41am

Don't forget any construction equipment that might be around. Rollers, Dozers, jack hammers, those big ass fucking cranes... Constructicons?

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2007-08-12 07:02am

Well the X-Box 360 vs PS3 vs Wii war just went hot

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2007-08-12 05:26pm

The US military could probably take them, but it would be tough and bloody. Would be easier if we still had tac-nukes in our arsenal. By the end of it the Big Apple would certainly look like something out of the Eastern Front in WW2.

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2007-08-12 08:44pm

How many semi-automated buildings are there in New York?

I'd say a built-in, dedicated Ethernet across an entire building just MIGHT make it transform.

And what about power stations transforming? Screw worrying about Fortress Maximus, we've got several dozen Omega Supremes and G1 Scorpionoks running around now....

Nukes might not be enough....

Redleader34 · Post by **Redleader34** » 2007-08-12 09:10pm

Lets just say, since the allspark is there, we got everything from the Transforming Rail Trains, Subways, Amtracks, Repair trains. We also got the Road Teams, so thats every car, truck, bus, and every craft with tires. We got the Mini Cons from vespas to motorcycles to scooters. We got House Transformers with appliances, computers, XBOT, Dewbots, and we have as Solauren pointed out Power Substations Transforming. If this reaches the harbor, we could have that old sub that is by the intrepid (now in new jersey, thank the alspark) becoming Submarine Force, as well as lots of small ships. Its going to be hell, and if buildings could transform, gonna need nuking from orbit...

DarkSilver · Post by **DarkSilver** » 2007-08-12 11:20pm

I wouldn't say all that much worry about Transformers being made out of the buildings...but I would be worried about the technology within those buildings. A massive swarm of heavily armed and armored for their size feral machines, while being sapient - may just tend towards the Decepticon viewpoints naturally.

Humanity would be well screwed, short of using nuclear weapons or high explosives to start taking out the robots. Then we have to look at the propigation wave striking LaGuardia, the bay, subways, etc etc.

New York would be torn apart in due order as the feral TF's tore through humanity. It'd take alot of firepower to deal with the situation.

Zed Snardbody · Post by **Zed Snardbody** » 2007-08-13 02:58am

PC Load letter, what the fuck does that mean?

Lord Relvenous · Post by **Lord Relvenous** » 2007-08-13 03:00am

How many high explosive rounds did the Air Force unload into Megatron again? And he was still mobile, to a certain extent. The sheer number of transformers would almost certaintly make it an impossibility to engage in individual strikes. Its nuke it, or let it get out of hand.

Revan's Fire · Post by **Revan's Fire** » 2007-08-13 03:07am

A nuke is the only feasible solution to such a massive and hostile force. A single soda machine was damaging enough. Imagine every single car becoming a deadly weapon, then every computer, then every cellphone, for all we know, every iPod would transform into a little creature that had machine guns, shot missiles, and played Panic! At the Disco really loudly (a double whammy to be sure). It would have to be nukage, and extremely hastily done nukage.

Lord Relvenous · Post by **Lord Relvenous** » 2007-08-13 04:31am

Ok, I think there's a consensus about the need for nuclear munitions in this scenario, but the real question is:

Would the US react fast enough to stop the spread and destruction of the Transformers? No nuclear power pulls the trigger quickly, especially when it means the eradication of a large population of their own citizens. Factor in the constant worry about starting a nuclear holocaust which plauges world leaders, and the fact that no one on Earth knows the capabilities of these new transformers, if i interporeted the OP correctly, and i think we have a situation where the optimum moment for the use of nuclear weapons is missed by a lond shot.

Likely, IMHO, the transformers are able to sweep past any local resistance, spread across the East Coast at least, cause untold civilian casualties, and perhaps even use the Allspark to create new transformers before any nuclear weapon is utilized.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2007-08-13 04:36am

In the film, the vehicle that the people were in that was hit by the Allspark energy did not turn into a robot itself, only part of the steering wheel did.

The car itself was not the proper technology to be converted by unfocused energy for whatever reason.

Lord Relvenous · Post by **Lord Relvenous** » 2007-08-13 05:00am

It might have converted completely out of shot. That's what i assumed happened.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2007-08-13 05:09am

How much military hardware/machinery is within the radius of the spark's blast?

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2007-08-13 05:13am

Lord Relvenous wrote:It might have converted completely out of shot. That's what i assumed happened.

The part of the steering wheel that attacked the driver was completely detached. Don't you think if the entire vehicle was meant to be alive other parts of it would have been moving? Doors opening, car shaking from side to side or the like?

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2007-08-13 05:18am

I wonder what the chance is of the Transformers "stabalizing" and losing their feral nature? Because it's looking more and more likely, especially since they will have the Allspark, that we would be screwed in this unless we nuked immediatly, something that it seems would be an unthinkable choice for any government.

Lord Relvenous · Post by **Lord Relvenous** » 2007-08-13 05:21am

CaptainChewbacca wrote:How much military hardware/machinery is within the radius of the spark's blast?

I don't know if military/civilian makes any difference. Transformers use the existing parts to make new weapons, rendering any existing human weapons relatively obsolete. Case in point, cell phone developing chain gun and rpg, Dew dispenser with a laser.

Lord Relvenous · Post by **Lord Relvenous** » 2007-08-13 05:23am

DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Lord Relvenous wrote:It might have converted completely out of shot. That's what i assumed happened.
The part of the steering wheel that attacked the driver was completely detached. Don't you think if the entire vehicle was meant to be alive other parts of it would have been moving? Doors opening, car shaking from side to side or the like?

Ghetto edit: While that didn't happen, we don't have any direct contradictory evidence that it did not transform. I'd kinda call this one ambiguous.

tim31 · Post by **tim31** » 2007-08-13 11:38am

DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Lord Relvenous wrote:It might have converted completely out of shot. That's what i assumed happened.
The part of the steering wheel that attacked the driver was completely detached. Don't you think if the entire vehicle was meant to be alive other parts of it would have been moving? Doors opening, car shaking from side to side or the like?

It seems inconsistent with the vending machine...