Just saw the Sarah Connor Chronicles (spoilers)

[Vympel]

Don't ask me how.

It sucked. Blargh. Crap. Shit. Pisses on the continuity. Lame. Sad. Ask away.

The Terminator acts like a retard and can't aim for shit, and Summer Glau is the most unconvincing Terminator I've ever seen. The chick in T3 beats the crap out of her in every department.

Furthermore, just to hammer home the point that Summer Glau is a Goodie-Terminator, her eyes and her Terminator-vision are blue.

Oh, and Terminators suck so hard they can't tell the difference between a boy and a girl Terminator disguised as a boy.

Someone stick a fork in this turd, it's done.

And continuity? What continuity?! We just reset the history so that Terminator 2 didn't happen in 1992 - it happened in 1997.

Yay!

[NecronLord]

Well. The TX had blue eyes too. Maybe skynet has a thing about giving girls blue eyes.

[Vympel]

Well. The TX had blue eyes too. Maybe skynet has a thing about giving girls blue eyes.

That's a fair point - did I mention that to make it really obvious who is and isn't a Terminator, the eyes glow through their organic eyeballs?

[Gustav32Vasa]

And continuity? What continuity?! We just reset the history so that Terminator 2 didn't happen in 1992 - it happened in 1997.

Didnt Arnold say that Judgement Day was 1997?

[Vympel]

Didnt Arnold say that Judgement Day was 1997?

Exactly.

[Tsyroc]

I thought T2 took place at least a few years after the time that the movie was released.

[Vympel]

I thought T2 took place at least a few years after the time that the movie was released.

It didn't take place in bloody 1997, however.

[tim31]

Based on music, clothing styles, and whatnot, it can't have taken place any later than 1992. Unless you're watching an 80's/early 90's movie for a laugh at the period, everything looks dated.

So necrotizing rebootitis is your diagnosis Vympel?

[Vympel]

Based on music, clothing styles, and whatnot, it can't have taken place any later than 1992. Unless you're watching an 80's/early 90's movie for a laugh at the period, everything looks dated.

So necrotizing rebootitis is your diagnosis Vympel?

In a nutshell. It sucks balls. I guess it doesn't help I hate Summer Foot-Fetish Glau.

[YT300000]

Why can't they just follow the books? Seriously, you have the Amazon, a Turkish terminator walking through a metal detector, a disembodied head rolling around a plane trying to bite John Connor (:lol:)...

Sure, no Arnold, but Linda Hamilton doesn't play Sarah in this anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

[Mark S]

They lost me at the very fact that there is even a Terminator in the series. I guess actually paying attention to the movies you're basing your series off of is over rated.

[Stormbringer]

They lost me at the very fact that there is even a Terminator in the series. I guess actually paying attention to the movies you're basing your series off of is over rated.

It's not like the last movie was even that good or concerned with continuity either. T3 had a whole lot of problems in and of itself.

I'm not surprised that this is yet another bad attempt at shoehorning another spin-off into a series that doesn't need it. You really can't start adding a bunch of material with out adding more contradictions and time line problems.

[Vympel]

I suppose I should mention that the pilot is set in 1999, and at the end they jump into a time machine hidden in a bank vault designed by a member of the resistance that John sent back in time to 1963 to build it so they can jump forward to 2007 and try and stop Skynet from being built and declaring war on humanity in 2011.

And as they jump into the time machine Sarah uses a future gun left in the bank vault (that the resistance member built) to kill the Terminator chasing them just before they jump, leaving a future gun and a dead Terminator on the floor of the Vault along with a time machine that undoubtedly caused Skynet to be created even though Dyson was dead and everything was destroyed.

Yes, it sucks that much.

[Ghost Rider]

I suppose I should mention that the pilot is set in 1999, and at the end they jump into a time machine hidden in a bank vault designed by a member of the resistance that John sent back in time to 1963 to build it so they can jump forward to 2007 and try and stop Skynet from being built and declaring war on humanity in 2011.

And as they jump into the time machine Sarah uses a future gun left in the bank vault (that the resistance member built) to kill the Terminator chasing them just before they jump, leaving a future gun and a dead Terminator on the floor of the Vault along with a time machine that undoubtedly caused Skynet to be created even though Dyson was dead and everything was destroyed.

Yes, it sucks that much.

Huh wha?!

I know sadly that above bit is not a jab of sarcasm but likely the story itself, which alone is just painful.

That above just makes my head hurt of what the fuck that shit tells about the writers and their level of knowledge.

[weemadando]

I suppose I should mention that the pilot is set in 1999, and at the end they jump into a time machine hidden in a bank vault designed by a member of the resistance that John sent back in time to 1963 to build it so they can jump forward to 2007 and try and stop Skynet from being built and declaring war on humanity in 2011.

And as they jump into the time machine Sarah uses a future gun left in the bank vault (that the resistance member built) to kill the Terminator chasing them just before they jump, leaving a future gun and a dead Terminator on the floor of the Vault along with a time machine that undoubtedly caused Skynet to be created even though Dyson was dead and everything was destroyed.

Yes, it sucks that much.

Huh wha?!

I know sadly that above bit is not a jab of sarcasm but likely the story itself, which alone is just painful.

That above just makes my head hurt of what the fuck that shit tells about the writers and their level of knowledge.

Yup. That's what actually happens in the show. Its sheer goddamn brilliance.

I was hoping for a little while that they'd take the T2: Infiltator book plot (which it seemed to be for a moment, however brief) and have Dyson's brother in the FBI and blah blah blah, but they didn't.

Pity.

[Netko]

Obviously, this series doesn't fit into the existing (already very complex and not really exactly unproblematic) continuity. It also isn't anything spectacular. I don't find it all that bad though. Perhaps I'm just not much of a Terminator purist. I just hope they handle terminators a bit more carefully from here on in. One in the pilot was expected but the series will turn to utter crap fast if they get a terminator-of-the-week syndrome.

I'm personally giving it the "Blade: the series" chance - crappy first ep, retrofitted onto an existing movie series to milk it further, etc. - and in the end it turns into something pretty good.

Plus, Summer Glau and the actress playing Sarah are hot making even a mediocre series bearable.

[tim31]

It's starting to sound like the final act of Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban.

[ray245]

It's starting to sound like the final act of Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban.

Like it in what sense?

I thought Prisoner of Azkaban was a good story?

[Stormbringer]

I was hoping for a little while that they'd take the T2: Infiltator book plot (which it seemed to be for a moment, however brief) and have Dyson's brother in the FBI and blah blah blah, but they didn't.

Pity.

Why? The S.M. Stirling books are filled with so much concentrated stupid, especially the sequels, that you're not really any better off than the present abomination.

[tim31]

It's starting to sound like the final act of Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban.

Like it in what sense?

I thought Prisoner of Azkaban was a good story?

All the time travelling to undo the previous dead ends is what I'm inferring.

[Mark S]

I suppose I should mention that the pilot is set in 1999, and at the end they jump into a time machine hidden in a bank vault designed by a member of the resistance that John sent back in time to 1963 to build it so they can jump forward to 2007 and try and stop Skynet from being built and declaring war on humanity in 2011.

And as they jump into the time machine Sarah uses a future gun left in the bank vault (that the resistance member built) to kill the Terminator chasing them just before they jump, leaving a future gun and a dead Terminator on the floor of the Vault along with a time machine that undoubtedly caused Skynet to be created even though Dyson was dead and everything was destroyed.

Yes, it sucks that much.

Shut... the fuck... up. My god. That sounds like two guys in a room trying to out do each other with convoluted bullshit. This show has no chance.

[Gustav32Vasa]

It's starting to sound like the final act of Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban.

Like it in what sense?

I thought Prisoner of Azkaban was a good story?

All the time travelling to undo the previous dead ends is what I'm inferring.

How could they undo things when they didnt change anything? HP timetravel dont work like that.

[TheDarkling]

And continuity? What continuity?! We just reset the history so that Terminator 2 didn't happen in 1992 - it happened in 1997.

That is Terminator 2's problem not that of this series (or pilot so far, it is on fox after all).

John Connor is too old for him to have been born in 1985 (as reported in the film) and for Terminator 2 to be taking place in 1992.

Uncle Bob also makes a comment during the film which would indicate it is 1994, as well as comments indicating it is closer to the 1992 date.

In addition the cops computer screen states it is 1995 of course if that is true then cyberdyne becomes the biggest supplier of weapons to the US government sometime after Skynet nuked them, which seems a tad unlikely.

In other words the dates from terminator 2 don't make any sense.

[TheDarkling]

And as they jump into the time machine Sarah uses a future gun left in the bank vault (that the resistance member built) to kill the Terminator chasing them just before they jump, leaving a future gun and a dead Terminator on the floor of the Vault along with a time machine that undoubtedly caused Skynet to be created even though Dyson was dead and everything was destroyed.

Isn't that pretty much what happened in the original Terminator?

[Vympel]

Isn't that pretty much what happened in the original Terminator?

Sure, minus the whole futurist energy weapon and time machine.

And which makes it ok for it to happen again in this show, how?

John Connor is too old for him to have been born in 1985 (as reported in the film) and for Terminator 2 to be taking place in 1992.

That would mean he's still too old for T2 to have taken place in 1997. He'd only be 14 in 1999, and obviously, he's older (he's turning 20 this December in real life, but anyway).