SA is dead on with this one -22 most awful moments in Sci Fi

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2007-10-09 06:40am

Link

WARNING - Spoilers to Wing Commander 3 in no 17 in the article; so don't click on it if you don't wanna see the spoiler.

Post by **Vympel** » 2007-10-09 06:43am

There are people who don't know what happens in WC3?

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2007-10-09 06:45am

Vympel wrote:There are people who don't know what happens in WC3?

*Cough*

Ace Pace.

He probably wasn't even born when it came out

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2007-10-09 07:20am

Sigh, that pic of Hobbes reminds me how badass the Kilrathi looked in game (and how lame in the movie)

Thanas · Post by **Thanas** » 2007-10-09 07:20am

Well, Andromeda was at least watchable during the first 1.5 seasons...before Sorbo got all Herc and axed the show creator.

Btw - why isn't this in pure sci-fi?

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2007-10-09 08:14am

Yeah, this thread is going for a little ride.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2007-10-09 08:15am

Vympel wrote:There are people who don't know what happens in WC3?

Yup, what happens?

Teleros · Post by **Teleros** » 2007-10-09 08:22am

No idea - unless the conversation's switched to Warcraft 3 and nobody told me

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Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2007-10-09 08:36am

That list is rather bullshity at times. Yes, we don't build robots with the 3 laws. How does that make Asimov awful sci-fi?

KhyronTheBackstabber · Post by **KhyronTheBackstabber** » 2007-10-09 08:45am

I like number 18.

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2007-10-09 08:52am

Hicks? Hicks?! HIIIIIIIIICKS!

Karza · Post by **Karza** » 2007-10-09 09:03am

Crazedwraith wrote:That list is rather bullshity at times. Yes, we don't build robots with the 3 laws. How does that make Asimov awful sci-fi?

That's what jumped at me as well. I don't recall them ever being presented like some sort of natural laws like that SA story makes them out to be, but as a series of programming principles that people creating robots in the Asimov-verse used.

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2007-10-09 09:08am

I like #4.

"Orwell so accurately read the nature of governments and so bleakly assessed the hearts of men, in part thanks to his experiences in Spain, that he created a book that would forever be referenced by morons. His name became synonymous with anything bad, or even seemingly bad, related to government. Listen to CNN or Fox News or read the Internet and you'll see "Orwellian" used to describe almost anything."

KhyronTheBackstabber · Post by **KhyronTheBackstabber** » 2007-10-09 09:25am

I don't know if it's because I'm sleep deprived, but this cracked me up.

They believed that President Reagan had just declared star wars on them and he was prepared to muster all of America's X-wings to wage war against their bullets. With that kind of firepower they knew they didn't have a chance.

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2007-10-09 11:06am

Karza wrote:
Crazedwraith wrote:That list is rather bullshity at times. Yes, we don't build robots with the 3 laws. How does that make Asimov awful sci-fi?
That's what jumped at me as well. I don't recall them ever being presented like some sort of natural laws like that SA story makes them out to be, but as a series of programming principles that people creating robots in the Asimov-verse used.

And the whole point of every Robots book Asimov wrote was to explore the shortcomings of the 3 Laws. All of the books make a clear damn point that even with an Act of Plot which enforces the 3 Laws, they arent garrientied to work as intended.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2007-10-09 01:08pm

They put Babylon 5 on the list. They even say, "By all rights Babylon 5 belongs on roughly the same quality rung as Andromeda. It might be a little better, but many of the characters are even more ridiculous than those in Andromeda."

Think about this, for a second.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2007-10-09 01:18pm

fgalkin wrote:
Think about this, for a second.

I thought about it and I think it means that the guys at SA don't worship Babylon 5 like a bunch of other people on the internet do.

Also did anyone notice Toru Furuya (aka Amuro Ray) in the Japanese Robocop 3 trailer?

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2007-10-09 01:46pm

I honestly couldn't care less about B5. I tried to get into, I really tried, but in the end, it was just so tedious that not even the brief awesome I saw now and then could keep me hooked.

Peptuck · Post by **Peptuck** » 2007-10-09 01:50pm

#8 made me lol. Hard.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-10-09 02:00pm

The choice for #1 strikes me as more of a joke answer, considering how little it it actually has to do with sci-fi, and that their choice for #2 is the real top Most Awful Moment.

Because honestly, it is.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2007-10-09 02:06pm

They put Babylon 5 on the list.

Yeah, but half the Bab5 entry is about the dumbass fans. And I do admit to finding several characters in that universe annoying and would probably not be as interested in it today.

montypython · Post by **montypython** » 2007-10-09 02:07pm

The criticism of Trek and B5 was spot on IMO.

Anguirus · Post by **Anguirus** » 2007-10-09 02:28pm

The article was sometimes amusing, but overall not very good. The support they mustered for hating Babylon 5 was "we hate the fans." Then, they compared it to Andromeda, but their spot on Andromeda wasn't written well enough to make any sense (or be funny).

And bashing Asimov and Orwell because idiots misunderstand them is fucking retarded. They even tried to make up for bashing Asimov by giving him a second entry amounting to "we're sorry he's dead, but we still hate the Three Laws of Robotics, so I guess we just devoted two of our entries to how much we hate the Three Laws of Robotics."

And the stuff on the SDI really didn't even belong on the list.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2007-10-09 02:32pm

Jesus Christ people it is a SA article, it is in the same league as The Onion, not a literary review. Pull the stick out of your ass and see if that helps.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2007-10-09 02:37pm

It's a funny list and not at all serious nor do I think its meant to be taken as a serious "worst of" list. While I enjoyed Babylon 5 the series, the tv movies were awful and Crusade was UGH, Legend of the Rangers an attrocity and Lost Tales was deadly dull. So I'd say any magic left in B5 is over with and done and the fans can definitely make matters worse. I can sympathize with someone who grows to hate a series because of rabid fans. My dislike for Serenity grows every time I have to listen to some dumbass browncoat even attempt to place the show on the same level as classics like Wars and Trek. Get over it, stupid, Serenity has no cultural impact remotely approaching the classics. So yes, you can hate a series based on rabid fandom.

The bashing of Andromeda is well deserved. Even though the 1st season is perhaps the best 1st season of any sci fi show in recent memory (save for nBSG) the other 3.5 seasons were absolutely unwatchable drek.