If Megatron was in Transformers 2 ...

Post by **Vympel** » 2007-10-27 12:03pm

I believe I've said before that I find it likely that we'll see Megatron come back in Transformers 2 (or, if not, he'd be back in Transformers 3).

If he did come back, what Earth-form should he take, in your opinion, in place of the "Cybertronian Jet" form of the first film? Obviously, some sort of jet, but what would top Starscream's F-22? Or should he stay as a Cybertron-form?

(Incidentally, it may be that Starscream may be the "leader" villain in the sequel - he was pretty badass in the first movie after all, he took out Ironhide and Ratchet in a matter of seconds and was smart enough to make his escape so as not to get hit by an airstrike).

Clone Sergeant · Post by **Clone Sergeant** » 2007-10-27 12:14pm

I think they should save Megs for Movie 3 and let Starscream and Soundwave (pretty please Bay!) have spotlight in the next film.

As for his form I think movie Megs is too arrogant and aggressive to take an earth-form to "hide" from the humans and Autobots.

But if you put a gun to my head a Su-35 would suffice for him. Although, I would prefer that form be used for one of the Seekers (Dirge).

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2007-10-27 01:07pm

The role of fighter jet belongs to starscream. Megatron as another earth fighter would be redudant. Rather i feel megatron`s character best suits a tank.

Sidewinder · Post by **Sidewinder** » 2007-10-27 01:19pm

I remember reading rumors that Megatron was going to be a stealth bomber in the first film, i.e., a B-2 Spirit.

Still, having Megatron return from the dead will SUCK ASS. I wouldn't mind seeing Galvatron, as long as he's a separate character from Megatron, but a damn zombie robot? No thanks.

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2007-10-27 03:47pm

It's a sequel to Michael Bay's Giant Robot Movie. It's going to suck ass regardless of what they do with "Megatron".

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2007-10-27 04:09pm

Sidewinder wrote:Still, having Megatron return from the dead will SUCK ASS. I wouldn't mind seeing Galvatron, as long as he's a separate character from Megatron, but a damn zombie robot? No thanks.

I'd think Shockwave would be more likely. He's one of the bots that was in charge, and he was planned for the first movie. He'd also be a foil for Starscream and could act as something of a stand-in for Megatron.

If he was to come back, maybe the A-10? It could have references to the original design like the nose gun being attached to his arm or something. It's also something at least a little different than Starscream's form.

Anguirus · Post by **Anguirus** » 2007-10-27 06:24pm

I have a feeling that Soundwave, Starscream, and Shockwave are going to feud over leadership in film #2, which Megatron being brought back (possibly as Galvatron) in film #3 (or at the end of #2).

I mean, he may be deactivated but he didn't get blown-to-pieces dead. I think they'll keep him out of the action for awhile, thus making it a huge deal when he gets brought back (possibly by a Megatron-loyalist Decepticon or Unicron).

In principle I like the Megs as A-10 idea, but it's lame that an Autobot (Powerglide in the cartoon) did it first.

Besides, I quite like his protoform and as far as I'm concerned he can stick to that. Though I can also see a bomber or something working.

Napoleon the Clown · Post by **Napoleon the Clown** » 2007-10-28 03:26am

An A-10 would result in a rather small Megatron, however, as Bay insists that the characters not have any sort of morphing of magical size changes (Frenzy's head/phone aside).

Maybe a gunship of some sort, as a reference to his gun form and Galvatron's cannon form. He'd still be pretty big and badass and would still have flight. Failing that, something like a Panzer. Either one has plenty of room for badass-ness.

As far as bringing him back goes, something I noticed was that the Allspark fragment sparked as Optimus pulled it out of his chest, so that could be used to justify him coming back to life.

Post by **Vympel** » 2007-10-28 03:46am

It's hard to think of a jet that outclasses Starscream's cool factor without being too large or too small for Megatron to "fit".

As far as bringing him back goes, something I noticed was that the Allspark fragment sparked as Optimus pulled it out of his chest, so that could be used to justify him coming back to life.

That's hardly a spoiler

- that part was definitely an all-purpose sequel tool - could be used to justify yet another struggle on the planet, bring back Megatron and/or other Decepticons (or Jazz) and so on and so forth.

I'd prefer no Galvatron, really. I mean, really, did anyone even like the cartoons that came after the Transformers movie? Fuck Galvatron (don't get me wrong, he was cool in the movie but that's only because he was Leonard Nimoy) and fuck Hot Rod - oh, sorry, "Rodimus Prime". And "Cup". And all those other shitty post-movie Transformers.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2007-10-28 04:03am

What? Isn't Wheelie the best transformer ever?

But seriously, given the lack of mass-shifting, what human stuff is Megatron around the same size as? I don't recall what would be useful for comparison.

Anguirus · Post by **Anguirus** » 2007-10-28 10:59am

I actually think that even if Megatron does come back in a different form, they may avoid calling him Galvatron. I don't mind referencing G1 Season 3 stuff but a lot of people seem antsy of it.

Old Plympto · Post by **Old Plympto** » 2007-10-28 11:08am

Anguirus wrote:I have a feeling that Soundwave, Starscream, and Shockwave are going to feud over leadership in film #2, which Megatron being brought back (possibly as Galvatron) in film #3 (or at the end of #2).

As long as Ratbat doesn't get a piece of this action like the Marvel Comics, I'm happy.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2007-10-28 12:07pm

Anguirus wrote:I actually think that even if Megatron does come back in a different form, they may avoid calling him Galvatron. I don't mind referencing G1 Season 3 stuff but a lot of people seem antsy of it.

Without Unicron, I don't think there really would be a reason why he is named something different. That was part of the whole rebuilding thing anyway.

If he does show up, then I can see him being a completely different character. That's kind of the way he was portrayed. He was built from Megatron, but he wasn't actually Megatron only in a different body.

Marko Dash · Post by **Marko Dash** » 2007-10-28 12:17pm

An AC-130 or something? Or maybe the airborne laser 747, but that might be too big.

Anguirus · Post by **Anguirus** » 2007-10-28 01:04pm

If he does show up, then I can see him being a completely different character.

I think the comics did that.

Ironically, I thought of Nimoy-Galvatron as having Megatron's personality, while Welker-Galvatron (the crazy one) struck me as a different character.

Molyneux · Post by **Molyneux** » 2007-10-28 01:06pm

Drooling Iguana wrote:It's a sequel to Michael Bay's Giant Robot Movie. It's going to suck ass regardless of what they do with "Megatron".

Four words:
Giant. Robot. Carrier. Group.

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2007-10-28 01:30pm

Molyneux wrote:
Four words:
Giant. Robot. Carrier. Group.

Sounds more like, "Michael Bay jerks off to the military."

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2007-10-28 02:53pm

Molyneux wrote:
Drooling Iguana wrote:It's a sequel to Michael Bay's Giant Robot Movie. It's going to suck ass regardless of what they do with "Megatron".
Four words:
Giant. Robot. Carrier. Group.

Bay will find a way to make it suck.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-10-28 03:02pm

Anguirus wrote:Ironically, I thought of Nimoy-Galvatron as having Megatron's personality, while Welker-Galvatron (the crazy one) struck me as a different character.

That's kind of because between the movie and the third season, Galvatron went insane.

Anguirus · Post by **Anguirus** » 2007-10-28 04:20pm

^ I know that. It's only ironic due to the voice actors. I think of original Megatron "dying" when he smacks into Chaar, because Galvie never really got sane again.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2007-10-28 05:27pm

Drooling Iguana wrote:
Molyneux wrote:
Drooling Iguana wrote:It's a sequel to Michael Bay's Giant Robot Movie. It's going to suck ass regardless of what they do with "Megatron".
Four words:
Giant. Robot. Carrier. Group.
Bay will find a way to make it suck.

Like the first movie?

I hope it does suck that much. It would be two hours well spent then.

Megs? He needs to come back. As a Tu-160.

A fifty metre tall, white Soviet bomber design is just what I want.

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2007-10-28 06:13pm

VF5SS wrote:
Molyneux wrote:
Four words:
Giant. Robot. Carrier. Group.
Sounds more like, "Michael Bay jerks off to the military."

Transformers has done it twice already.

Broadside in G1 was a triple-changer with a carrier as one of his alternate forms, and of course, there's Tidal Wave from Armada.

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2007-10-28 06:22pm

I own a Broadside. It's a very sad little toy. Hopefully the next movie will contain a large cast of characters, each with their own unique personality quirks. Also more Megan Fox cleavage.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2007-10-28 06:47pm

VF5SS wrote:I own a Broadside. It's a very sad little toy. Hopefully the next movie will contain a large cast of characters, each with their own unique personality quirks. Also more Megan Fox cleavage.

This needs to be the studio pledge for the sequel.

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2007-10-28 06:52pm

Apparently the DVD commentary with Bay says he wants to recapture the "Heart and Magic" of the first film. Now word yet on what Don Murphy wants.