My source is the Collected Art Book of the Horus Heresy which I heartily recommend as a steal for $30 on Amazon. Anyway in one of the later chapters it talks about the ascension of Fulgrim as Deamon Prince. It seems when Fulgrim couldn't bring himself to deal the final death blow to Manus during the Drop Site Massacre he appealed for help from his demon advisor who promptly struck a deal with him and then possessed Fulgrim's body while Fulgrim's consciousness was still fully aware trapped in his own body.
I don't know if that's straight up possession or ascension to Daemon Princehood but the dialogue is accompanied by a painting of Fulgrim entitled "Daemon Prince of Pleasure - Slaanesh." So either he ascended to Daemon Prince or he is possessed by a deamon Prince.
If the ascension to Daemon Princehood really is you losing your body to a Daemon I don't get what the great prize is to achieve this state. What is entailed in achieving this state and do you retain some form of free will?
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well as far as I know rising into Daemon princehood means essentially that the person in question has gotten so many "gifts" from the chaos gods and/or various other warp powers that he's no longer a human but rather a really powerfull (by mortal standards) daemon and as far as I know they do retain free will to a degree at least.
that said though my knowlage on WH:40K fluff isn't exactly that extensive.
that said though my knowlage on WH:40K fluff isn't exactly that extensive.
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Fulgrim was shafted. The demon in the weapon he took as a trophy took over his body when he refused to submit to chaos, and he has been imprisoned within his own skull (and/or a painting) for ten thousand years.
Proper ascension does not work that way, but of course, by the time they've granted you demonhood like that, you're already utterly insane and mind-warped anyway.
Proper ascension does not work that way, but of course, by the time they've granted you demonhood like that, you're already utterly insane and mind-warped anyway.
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Another good example is Emeli, from the Ciaphas Cain series. (specifically, The Traitor's Hand) Emeli at least managed to ascend to daemonhood via her actions, though precisely what she did were not elaborated upon very heavily; as far as the literature shows, she was in charge of a small Slaanesh cult on some minor world, but she was a potent psyker, and after Cain killed her, she comes back later as a daemon with enough power to potentially form a daemonworld and incapacitate two World Eaters.
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Well judging from the novel Fulgrim it looks like Fulgrim was totally possesed rather than gaining demon princehood, its possible the creature that possed him was a demon prince itself.
It may be that in some situations when a mortal becomes a demon prince he sort of gets possessed by his own demon self. I remember a story from one of the early Warhammer anthologies (Ignorant armies I think) which charted the rise of a chaos champion to demonhood and that seemed to be what happened at the end although it could be some sort of throwing off of the last mortal parts of the prince.
It may be that in some situations when a mortal becomes a demon prince he sort of gets possessed by his own demon self. I remember a story from one of the early Warhammer anthologies (Ignorant armies I think) which charted the rise of a chaos champion to demonhood and that seemed to be what happened at the end although it could be some sort of throwing off of the last mortal parts of the prince.