ASSIMILATE THE OVERMIND

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-01-29 12:04pm

Can the Zerg overmind be assimilated? what would happen if elements of the zerg were assimilated into the borg collective, would they maintain their link to the overmind or would the collective overpower it? what about the borg injecting it's nanites directly into an overmind?

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2003-01-29 12:10pm

It was controlled by the Earth Terrans, so it can probably be assimilated.

Shadow WarChief · Post by **Shadow WarChief** » 2003-01-29 04:22pm

They were only able to use the overmind because they used a titanic amount of meds and powerful psychics enhanced by the psi emitter which was built specifically to control the overmind who wasn't even fully grown.

Now I ask you: Do the borg have any of those things? Psi Emitters maybe, but the powerful psychics and drugs necessary for the rest? Hardly.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-01-29 04:24pm

Well, theoretically, because of their use of nanomachines, they could probably create the same effect on the Overmind.

Having said that, both sides are equally unrealistic...

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-01-29 04:33pm

Zerg would slaughter the Borg.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-01-29 05:40pm

Not exactly a similar case, but was there anything shown about Borg that take over telepaths, like Betazoids. No group mind thing, but it would give some idea of the effects on psionics.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-01-29 07:33pm

It should be possibul, though the will of the overmind might prove stronger then that of the Borg, leading the overmind seizeing control of the Borg. But it won't be an issue, the Borg will not be defeating billions and trillions of Zerg anytime soon.

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2003-01-29 08:17pm

Think of that... Borg with the speed of Zerglings and the ability to assimilate while retaining their strength...

Now they just need to work out a strategy that doesn't involve warning your opponents first, then walking towards them slowly.

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-01-29 08:18pm

What would happen if a Zergling were assimilated? Which Mind would it obey, Zerg or Borg?

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2003-01-29 08:31pm

Shadow WarChief wrote:They were only able to use the overmind because they used a titanic amount of meds and powerful psychics enhanced by the psi emitter which was built specifically to control the overmind who wasn't even fully grown.

Now I ask you: Do the borg have any of those things? Psi Emitters maybe, but the powerful psychics and drugs necessary for the rest? Hardly.

Hmmm...the centralization of the Overmind might be a problem, never thought of that.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-01-29 08:43pm

IG-88E wrote:What would happen if a Zergling were assimilated? Which Mind would it obey, Zerg or Borg?

I'd think that the nanoprobes of a Borg assimilator thingys would probably cut off their connection to the Swarm, and bring them to the Collective.

But the Borg would be royally screwed trying to come up against the Zerg. They outnumber them, and they use kinetic weapons.

But if they didsomehowassimilate the Overmind, I'd bet it would teach the Borg a thing or two about swarm tactics (verses sending a single fucking ship to complete the objective, where it will fail miserably). Again, IF the Borg could assimilate the Overmind, I'd bet that they could take out most of teh AQ civs in days (after they arrived in AQ space, which takes however long with transwarp) since they would be assualting with THOUSANDS of cubes.

Although it would be interesting if when the Overmind was assimilated, and it instead of obeying the Collective, broke off and started converting Borg into a sort of "Borg Confederacy." I call rights for the fan-fic!

Shadow WarChief · Post by **Shadow WarChief** » 2003-01-30 02:46am

Well going by the hand manual, if a borg injected a zergling with nanoprobes, nothing would happen. It stated that every zerg unit had been genetically refined over the thousands of years its existed to be immune to every known type of physical illness.

Now I know nanoprobes aren't exactly a part of "every known type of physical illness", but considering how effective the immune system of an 8472 stood up to nanoprobes, and since zerg immune systems appear to be on an otherwise comparable level going by the manual, I don't think it's tooooo much of a stretch to say that at the very least assimilation of a zergling wouldn't occur that quickly.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-01-31 02:23pm

Shadow WarChief wrote:Well going by the hand manual, if a borg injected a zergling with nanoprobes, nothing would happen. It stated that every zerg unit had been genetically refined over the thousands of years its existed to be immune to every known type of physical illness.

Now I know nanoprobes aren't exactly a part of "every known type of physical illness", but considering how effective the immune system of an 8472 stood up to nanoprobes, and since zerg immune systems appear to be on an otherwise comparable level going by the manual, I don't think it's tooooo much of a stretch to say that at the very least assimilation of a zergling wouldn't occur that quickly.

That immunity didn't stop the UED from controlling the overmind.... because they went right for the hive mind. also i think the zerg defenses could be seriously compromised by transporters....no need to charge through the heart of defenses, just transport a thousand drones inches from the hive.

Captain tycho · Post by **Captain tycho** » 2003-01-31 02:46pm

just transport a thousand drones close to the hive.

.....and then they transport back one thousand dismembered Borgies a few moments later.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-01-31 03:30pm

Captain tycho wrote:
just transport a thousand drones close to the hive.
.....and then they transport back one thousand dismembered Borgies a few moments later.

either way it would be pretty fucking cool!

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-01-31 03:49pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:
Shadow WarChief wrote:Well going by the hand manual, if a borg injected a zergling with nanoprobes, nothing would happen. It stated that every zerg unit had been genetically refined over the thousands of years its existed to be immune to every known type of physical illness.

Now I know nanoprobes aren't exactly a part of "every known type of physical illness", but considering how effective the immune system of an 8472 stood up to nanoprobes, and since zerg immune systems appear to be on an otherwise comparable level going by the manual, I don't think it's tooooo much of a stretch to say that at the very least assimilation of a zergling wouldn't occur that quickly.
That immunity didn't stop the UED from controlling the overmind.... because they went right for the hive mind. also i think the zerg defenses could be seriously compromised by transporters....no need to charge through the heart of defenses, just transport a thousand drones inches from the hive.

Actually you have to realize that the UED used PSYCHICS as well as drugs to control the Overmind. From what I can recall, the Borg have no psychics.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-01-31 03:55pm

Shinova wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:
Shadow WarChief wrote:Well going by the hand manual, if a borg injected a zergling with nanoprobes, nothing would happen. It stated that every zerg unit had been genetically refined over the thousands of years its existed to be immune to every known type of physical illness.

Now I know nanoprobes aren't exactly a part of "every known type of physical illness", but considering how effective the immune system of an 8472 stood up to nanoprobes, and since zerg immune systems appear to be on an otherwise comparable level going by the manual, I don't think it's tooooo much of a stretch to say that at the very least assimilation of a zergling wouldn't occur that quickly.
That immunity didn't stop the UED from controlling the overmind.... because they went right for the hive mind. also i think the zerg defenses could be seriously compromised by transporters....no need to charge through the heart of defenses, just transport a thousand drones inches from the hive.

Actually you have to realize that the UED used PSYCHICS as well as drugs to control the Overmind. From what I can recall, the Borg have no psychics.

easily fixed..... assimilate a few betazeds