Ringo Verse Vs! Posleen Vs Dreen!

[TheMuffinKing]

In an all out fight, pitting what we know of the Posleen (Ringo's "Legacy of the Aldenata" series) and the Dreen (Ringo's "Through the Looking Glass" and onwards), who do you believe would come out on top.

All out galactic conflict, space battles, ground engagement, etc.

I'll give the Posleen one caveat, their command will be unified and will consist of the least stupid God Kings seen thus far.

[Gerald Tarrant]

For Posleen verses Dreen, I'd have to give it to the Posties. In the first book the most powerful Dreen unit that could fit through the gates was some sort of segmented crawler unit. Human forces were able to take them out with onsite EFP's (not sure if they were regular anti-tank mines or custom made). I'm pretty sure that higher end posleen weapons (like Plasma or HVM's) are capable of better penetration. And the posties will have more of them. This suggests to me that the posties are going to do a better job of retaking or holding gates than the OTL human forces. Add on the occasional use of landers which the Dreen might not have a counter for and I think they'll be able to hold off the Dreen.

When it comes to space Posties vs. Dreen, there may not be enough information; but on the bits I've heard I think I'm giving it to the Posties again. Spoilers from the third book. Spoiler

The humans end up flying around in a converted interstellar sub against a Dreen flotilla. Blasts from Dreen ships tear holes in the hull, kill large numbers of the crew etc. Similar engagements involving the Posleen would probably have one-shotted the Vorpal sword (name of the sub).

And the posties's engagements typically involve 1000's of ships.

I don't know enough about how the humans would stack up. Among other things by the end of Claws that Catch, they've started to tech up with competent allies instead of the passive agressive Darhel in Posleen verse.

[Xon]

The Dreen have planet cracker bombs, and a lot of planets under thier controll.The Dreen are also a hell of a lot harder to remove from a planet than the Posleen due to thier wacky biology.

[Samuel]

For the rest of us, can we have some quantification? I'll do the Posleen, you do the Dreen (haven't read the Dreen books).
Spoiler

The Posleen are a centaur like Reptilian race that was designed for war. They are immune to everything and have in built memory for certain specialties. They are lead by God-Kings who vary in intelligence- about 5% would be considered "competent". Their tactics are human wave- first tunneling FTL, than they shoot up everything in orbit or that shoots at them, than they land where the net tells them to. Their pattern is coastal areas. Than they poor forth with their railguns and hypersonic missile launchers. The God-Kings are better armed and have a full sensor suite... but are easier to spot. They advance and kill everything in their path and us their own dead as fodder.

Their strength is numbers, morale and decentralization.

Their weakness is their lack of intelligence, their lack of flexibility, their lack of artillery or any form of combined arms, their poor industrial methods and their near total incapacity for diplomacy.

Oh, and the fact that they are physically impossible. There are more clarifications, but this is the baseline.

[consequences]

And here I am currently without my copy of the fourth book.

The Dreen cockslap the Posleen, quite convincingly. What Gerald is leaving out is that the Dreen generally had a second or so to peg the Vorpal Blade before it went into warp again, that it was mostly getting pegged by the weapons of smaller ships, and that the guns tended to go straight through the ship in a classic case of overpenetration.

For the Posleen, do remember that a terawatt laser was carving their ships up like a roast in Hell's Faire. Claws that Catch features an Exajoule KEWon the captured Karchava Dreadnought, which also wasn't a one-shot kill on a Dreen sentient carrying mothership. Of course, we can't trust Ringo's math or editors worth a damn for either series, but that's neither here nor there.

The Posleen can probably hold the gates, with sufficient firepower and their smart Godkings telling them to do so. What they can't do jack about are the larger(as in mountain sized) crap the Dreen will throw at them when they reach the location either by wormhole, captured Posleen tunnel drive, or the expanding stl bubble.