The Doctor in Warhammer 40,000 Universe

[Interlord1]

Okay, so if the Doctor somehow ends up in the Warhammer 40,000 Universe, he see's how awful a state it is in (Everyone being at war and all...) And is trying to fix it. How would be go about this?

He gets there at about the time that warhammer is currently set (The 40th millenium, ofcourse)
He can use the Tardis to go back a Maximum of 10,000 years (To stop him making a new Imperium entirely) But he can use the Tardis to go anywhere in the galaxy.
He starts as the 10th Doctor (The one played by David Tennant) with No companions (But he can feel free to drag other people who want to come with him along in that universe)
He can regenerate, but only 3 more times so he has had his maximum of 12 regenerations

His objective is to stop the galaxy wide wars, and he has the rest of his life to do so (How long a timelord lives i have no idea, so we'll say that each regeneration lives for about 100 years if they don't get shot)

So, what are peoples opinions on what would happen?

[Broomstick]

Given the Doctor's reluctance to use guns and frank weapons? He goes through his allotted regenerations in a week, tops, and makes not discernible difference in the WH40k universe.

[NecronLord]

Okay, so if the Doctor somehow ends up in the Warhammer 40,000 Universe, he see's how awful a state it is in (Everyone being at war and all...) And is trying to fix it. How would be go about this?

Offhand, he can make any faction he pleases dominate the others except the necrons. He demonstrates a complete theoretical and practical understanding of how to make non-warp (probably intergalactic) FTL in Shada. Giving that to the Imperium would be a complete game-changer.

He gets there at about the time that warhammer is currently set (The 40th millenium, ofcourse)
He can use the Tardis to go back a Maximum of 10,000 years (To stop him making a new Imperium entirely) But he can use the Tardis to go anywhere in the galaxy.
He starts as the 10th Doctor (The one played by David Tennant) with No companions (But he can feel free to drag other people who want to come with him along in that universe)

I'm imagining the Doctor tooling around with Inquisitor Amberly Vail now, you realise?

Also, the Tenth Doctor is just about the worst equipped for this mentally. His penchant for 'no kill' speeches and morality mean he's utterly unequipped to manipulate large civilizations.

The Seventh Doctor could probably manage to do a hell of a lot more.

He can regenerate, but only 3 more times so he has had his maximum of 12 regenerations

His objective is to stop the galaxy wide wars, and he has the rest of his life to do so (How long a timelord lives i have no idea, so we'll say that each regeneration lives for about 100 years if they don't get shot)

So, what are peoples opinions on what would happen?

The maximum lifespan of a timelord is probably indefinate, the Second Doctor says as much anyway, and Omega appears to have lived at least a few million years, albeit eventually transcending physical form.

His real problem though is surviving. 40K folks don't fuck around half as much as Doctor Who ones. His usual plan of 'get captured' wouldn't work so well against the Eldar in Ian Watson's books, for instance, who regard cauterising all the limbs off captives as a sensible thing to do if you have to leave them unobserved.

To a large degree it depends on luck too. If he runs into someone like Ciaphas Cain first and gets to learn about the setting, he'll be able to do a lot of stuff, if he runs into Abaddon the Despoiler first; less so.

[Interlord1]

Okay, Instead of randomly choosing the 10th Doctor how about I start with the first Doctor, everytime he Regenerates he goes into the Next doctor in line (I'm only saying that to stop people saying he regenerates into someone completely different)

[NecronLord]

Anyway, in order to win, his primary problem is going to be finding a sufficiently nice entity to support. The Ur-Council of Nova-Terra, during the Nova Terra Interregnum of M35, is perhaps the best candidate, as it appears to have rejected the religiosity of the Imperium. We don't know if they were evil in some other way of course.

The problem with 40K is that everyone is unsympathetic. The Tau are bastards who would probably try and probe the Doctor's brain for more. The Eldar of Beil Tan, an otherwise excellent candidate who understand the warp and want to expand, are also enormous bastards.

[Shroom Man 777]

Oh, it would be absolutely marvelous if he runs into Sandy Mitchell's guys. They're all great characters, and would be ideal Doctor Who protagonists and companion material. Imagine having Commissar Ciaphas Cain and Inquisitor Amberley Vail, and Jurgen, traveling around with the Doc around the 40k galaxy. Their exploits will be legendary. They will be nigh unstoppable!

[NecronLord]

First is utterly fucked. While his style would be quite reliable compared to other Doctors (he rarely relied on outrunning the enemy's soldiers, and spent much more time talking to people and investigating things) he couldn't reliably pilot the TARDIS. His best hope is to arrive in another galaxy entirely and find something that can deal with the Milky Way natives.

[Serafina]

Hmm, that's a good one.

It really depends on how much the Doctor is able to change his Modus Operandi. He is capable of not relying on getting captured or ignoring guns, if it is necessary, and does so a couple of times in his own universe as well.
He is also capable of ignoring most guns if he is near the TARDIS if he goes for shielding it - and he probably would in the 40K-verse.

Basically, he has to avoid getting captured by a lot of enemies and messing around with them.
To make actual changes, do not forget that information is power. If the Doctor gives out only a small portion of his technical knowledge, he could make enormous changes.

The major problem is knowing who he wants to support. Because no one in 40K is really good.
His best shots are probably the Imperium and the Tau.
The latter could become a much bigger player with non-warp FTL and eventually be capable of liberating most of the Galaxy. And the Doctor might actually be able to drill their nazi-tendencies out of them.
The Imperium could at least be sufficiently powerful to defeat the various threats - which would solve a lot of the suffering in the Galaxy.

In the long run, he would have to deal with the Necrons tough - and they might be a lot of trouble. We know that they can manipulate time and bend the laws of the physical universe to a great extent. And that is ignoring the C'tan.

[Interlord1]

If the first doctor would be bad at this he'll end up getting himself to regenerate into a better doctor.

[Serafina]

If the first doctor would be bad at this he'll end up getting himself to regenerate into a better doctor.

IF he gets a chance to regenerate.

People tend to forget that the Doctor can only regenerate if both of his hearts are intact (see Forest of the Dead). It IS possible to kill him with a single hit, if it is sufficiently powerful. A Dalek nearly managed it in The Stolen Earth.
And even if that was not the case, you can still capture him and throw him into the warp, or into space or something like that.

The Doctor is incredibly smart, but he can still be killed by brute force. And 40K has a lot of that.

[NecronLord]

Wait a moment. First actually can win. If he learns of Tzeentch's objective to tear down causality, then he can summon the Time Lords as Second did in The War Games and reasonably expect them to stage a high level intervention and just fucking destroy the Eye of Terror and every other chaos stronghold. It's reasonable to assume First and Second always carried the Time Lord message device that Second used in that episode, as he just pulled it out of his pocket.

Of course, I rather expect the OP's intention is that he's actually cut off from his own reality, but I just had to say it.

In the long run, he would have to deal with the Necrons tough - and they might be a lot of trouble. We know that they can manipulate time and bend the laws of the physical universe to a great extent. And that is ignoring the C'tan.

If he learns about them from a safe distance he can go back in time and destroy them while they sleep. After all, if no one can get to Pavonis, the Nightbringer would simply die, and likewise for all the other C'tan tomb-worlds (except Mars, which is already settled, but the Void Dragon is already imprisoned).

[Interlord1]

Yes, I forgot to mention he was cut of from his own universe. Imagine it like the episodes where he's in parallel London with the cybermen, Except instead of killing his Tardis it just powers it down to a limited range (Galaxy wide and only 5,000 Years back from the starting point maximum)

[NecronLord]

Yes, I forgot to mention he was cut of from his own universe. Imagine it like the episodes where he's in parallel London with the cybermen, Except instead of killing his Tardis it just powers it down to a limited range (Galaxy wide and only 5,000 Years back from the starting point maximum)

Just as a point of DW lore. The TARDIS didn't always work like that. The cut-off in other realities is due to the destruction of machinery on Gallifrey that permitted inter-universal travel (for everyone). Similarly, Gallifrey beamed power to TARDISes wherever they were. When the Daleks built the Crucible in Stolen Earth (spit) they built their own version and inter-universal travel became easy once more, hence why Rose Tyler (spit) etc came back from that world. In short, every Doctor before Ninth didn't have this problem.

[Interlord1]

Ah, okay, well i'll have to think of some other reason for the Tardis to be underpowered.

[NecronLord]

Ah, okay, well i'll have to think of some other reason for the Tardis to be underpowered.

We'll just consider it OP fiat and move on. Doesn't need an excuse.

[Interlord1]

I imagine it would go like this, The Doctor lands on Terra after some freak abberation in the time vortex, He goes searching for information, searches a little too deep and ends up getting captured. he then gets tortures for information about this "Tardis" and everything else he knows, he resists up to the point of Physic interrogation when some of the most powerful minds in the Imperium peel back his physic defences and pry Information from his mind, Probably making him regenerate in the process. They use this information, such as Intergalactic non warp FTL and incredibly powerful shields to dominate the rest of the Galaxy. Then they dissect the Doctor and find out the secrets of his regenerating, and, if they figure it out, they then ressurect the Emperor with it (If it would work, that is.)

Ofcourse the Imperium might not be capable of that and some of my information could be wrong, this is only what i think would happen.

[NecronLord]

The Imperium isn't that capable either. They're not going to instantly know he's valuable. More likely they just shoot him. When he regenerates they call him a witch and so they burn him.

[Srelex]

I'm not sure even 10th doctor would be reckless enough to go swanning around the Imperium, so I'd imagine that after gaining enough information he could travel back to try and stop the whole thing from going to shit. I mean, in Rise of the Cybermen his first thought upon entering a parallel world was getting out ASAP, right?

[Night_stalker]

If the first doctor would be bad at this he'll end up getting himself to regenerate into a better doctor.

Yeah, the problem with that statement is that a lot of the weapons in the WH40K universe aren't the sort that leave flesh wounds, or anything other than a corpse. Bolters, lasguns, flamers, meltas, plasma weapons, Gauss flayers, fleshborers, the list goes on. In short if he gets hit and by some miralce survives long enough to begin regeneration, well most of the forces are going to assume he's a psyker and call in the BIG guns: Basilisk rounds, Doomweavers and their like. That usually doesn't leave a body behind.

[Serafina]

Question is, will the Doctor stay the way he is?
Because he has done some pretty horrible (yet necessary) things, and on some occasions he needed someone to pull him back from the edge. But there are no such people in 40K, they are more likely to push.

And we know that he can get pretty damn nasty if he has to. If he pulls out his warrior mentality, he could probably go on a serious rampage.
In that case, it boils down to his capabilities - what his TARDIS will be capable off and what else he can do.

[Interlord1]

Okay, i'll add some more rules about this.
The Doctor can be whatever regeneration you decide would be best for this, but keep in mind the later regenerations get less regenerations if they're hurt/nearly killed.
The Tardis has the Extrapolator shields he used before, Those are pretty much impervious to anything up to Warships i'm going to assume, But i'm not sure so any more information on that matter would be appreciated.
The Tardis can go back in time a Maximum of 5,000 years, to stop him from just creating an entirely new Imperium
Apart from this, the Tardis can do anything it normally can, from Towing planets around to going just about anywhere.
The Doctor is completely cut off from his original Universe.

And on the other side, Imagine the Master gets put in this universe aswell, along with his own Tardis capable of going back 5,000 years, given time could he take over that galaxy?

[Darth Hoth]

I have no idea whatsoever who or what Doctor Who is, except that it sounds wanktastic from what people on this board have said in this thread and others. With that in mind, my contribution to this thread will probably be minimal. However, a question: Does the character have any kind of psychic powers or protection against such? Even with planet-smashing technology, such things can ruin a would-be big fish's day if he does not, and Warhammer as a universe is fairly heavy on those.

[Interlord1]

I'm pretty sure he has minimal Psychic powers, but there limited to contact (Transferring memories, etc) But again i'm not sure.

[Broomstick]

Dr. Who has demonstrated psychic powers in the past. Not terribly often, but out and out telepathy for certain on occasion, and resistance to mind probes and such. He has on occasion confronted some very Big Evil in his own universe.

The biggest problem he'd have in regard to the Imperium would be that he is alien. He's not H. Sapiens and presumably they'd have a means of detecting that. The Imperium doesn't like aliens (given the milieu, that's actually not irrational).

[Samuel]

I have no idea whatsoever who or what Doctor Who is, except that it sounds wanktastic from what people on this board have said in this thread and others.

Dr Who is an individual from a race called Timelords. They basically mess with time, reality, etc, but were wiped out. Dr Who spends his time traveling the universe in the Tardis fighting evil. Simple really.

The biggest problem he'd have in regard to the Imperium would be that he is alien. He's not H. Sapiens and presumably they'd have a means of detecting that. The Imperium doesn't like aliens (given the milieu, that's actually not irrational).

It is worse since he looks human and aliens that look exactly like humans automatically ring "infiltrator". On the other hand individuals have managed to pass in imperial society while being aliens, genestealers being the most obvious.