Mass Effect Reapers VS Star Wars Empire/Rebels

[SpaceMarine93]

A scenario: Let's just say in a forgone conclusion, Captain Shepard and the rest of the Mass Effect Galaxy managed repel the final Reaper invasion. Some of the Reapers survived whatever ways Mass Effect Galaxy had created to destroy them by escaping into a Space-time anomaly. It displaces the remnants of the Reapers in another part of the Universe millions of years in the past.

After invading several galaxies over the next few tens of millions of years, they managed to mostly recover back their original strength, forgoing the standard procedures they did with the Citadel system back in the Mass Effect Galaxy for texbook galactic invasions, wiping out several thousands of races in the process as well as enslaving several ones like they did with the Protheans.

Then, just after reaching full strength, they head towards a new target, which happens to be the Star Wars galaxy. It is months before the Battle of Endor. The Rebel Alliance had fully regrouped and reorganized after their escape from Hoth, Han Solo was rescued early, while Palpatine had just began to set in motion his plan to finally destroy the Rebel Alliance in a trap.

The approach of the Reapers creates a powerful disturbance in the Force, notifying Luke and Yoda, as well as Darth Vader and Palpatine, of their approach.

If the Reapers are ever to invade the Star Wars galaxy, considering the strength and abilities of both side as we had seen so far, who might win? What would happen over the course of the war? How might the Reapers overcome the defenses of the Galaxy and how would the Star Wars Galaxy react to the sudden appearance of the Reapers?

[Stark]

Taking bad guys out of their narrative setup is always interesting. Lol

What was the point of the fanfic? You just ask 'if' with no connection to any of that filler.

And frankly the reapers aren't very powerful. How is this interesting? Do you speculate reapers will be able to drive through star destroyers or destroy them with their lasers? How will they even move around effectively? Who will notice their presence without the entire setting designed around supporting their super doomy doom?

[Imperial528]

The reapers will die very, very easily, plain and simple. One thing that is for sure is that the Systems Alliance fleet that destroyed Sovereign had at most pumped a total of double-digit megatons worth of damage into it. More likely single-digit megatons, or even triple-digit kilotons as a low end.

I would like to note that this puts the reapers as relatively easy prey for Federation ships such as the E-D. Star Wars vessels will be able to take on whole armadas of reapers like it was a cakewalk.

And without a mass relay network, they will advance at such a slow pace that most planet's will have ample time to dust off their few frigates and token defense force in order to absolutely destroy the reapers upon their arrival. Because frankly, modern nuclear weapons could tear reapers apart with ease, just going by pure yield.

[lordofchange13]

The SW ship weapons completely devastate the Reapers. their mass effect shields can't hold up in their own galaxy how could they survive against a government with guns several million times more powerful?

[Stark]

Even in-universe they built the retarded Citadel trap in order to make it easier on themselves. You'd imagine without that (or if they got unlucky and in 50,000 years someone invented a different FTL system) the reapers would have a tough time even with their own setting.

[SpaceMarine93]

Wow. Are the military forces in Star Wars really that powerful?

[Panzersharkcat]

Wow. Are the military forces in Star Wars really that powerful?

Yes. They may act retarded sometimes but yeah, Star Wars = ridiculous firepower.

[Imperial528]

Wow. Are the military forces in Star Wars really that powerful?

They are. But in this case, it's not so much a matter of SW being strong, more so that the reapers are just weak.

Seriously, in the next hundred years our own planet could probably easily destroy a reaper or two without much problem, assuming we still build nuclear weapons then. We have the firepower capability with our strategic weapons now, we just don't have an efficient way of getting them out of our gravity well.

[Stark]

It's arguable that Sov was crippled by the death of Saren somehow, which enabled the human fleet to rule him.

[Imperial528]

IIRC the battle between the Saren/Sovereign avatar distracted Sov enough that he didn't rip the fleet apart before they could put enough mass driver rounds into him to kill him.

[PREDATOR490]

Heh, this reminds me of a stupid Youtube video where somone put Soverign VS. the Death Star as an 'analysis' - He concluded Soverign would win.

The lines that cracked me up:
It is questionable if a direct hit from the Death Star super-laser would destroy Soverign
It is arguable wether a direct hit from the Death Star Laser would penetrate the shields
The Surface Emplacements wouldnt be able to inflict damage or hit Soverign

This may change depending on how Mass Effect 3 wanks the Reaper invasion but so far Soverign's direct example of their capabilities makes it woefully obvious they would get curbstomped through sheer firepower alone. One dosent have to include the fact the Reaper propulsion is completely dependant on Mass Relays.

[Imperial528]

The sheer stupidity in that video is overwhelming, and I must ask myself, did he actually play Mass Effect and actually watch Star Wars? I doubt he did.

I mean, I understand not every fan of sci-fi is going to be a super-uber-nerd such as myself, but I often wonder if most people have any sense of scale.

[Connor MacLeod]

The sheer stupidity in that video is overwhelming, and I must ask myself, did he actually play Mass Effect and actually watch Star Wars? I doubt he did.

I mean, I understand not every fan of sci-fi is going to be a super-uber-nerd such as myself, but I often wonder if most people have any sense of scale.

Not everyone sleeps with a copy of the ICS under their covers, you know. Or even believes in those numbers to begin with, so criticizing him for "not getting it" is a bit unfair. especially since it's not really obvious that SW possesses that kind of firepower (except the Death Star, and people argue about the implications of that even to this day.)


The Reapers still probably lose in space unless you go by some of the numbers bandied about from the Clone Wars series (or rather, a particular subset of numbers.) or they have some really impressive abilities we just aren't seeing. (As I recall someone in past discussions brought up some huge projectile dug trench as being example of uber-powerful reaper firepower from the first game. Or something.)

[Stofsk]

No that was a gun someone else used on a reaper millions of years ago. The trench was on a planet called Klendagon and it went over a good portion of the planet's surface. That round 'missed' so to speak, but its trajectory could be determined and the 'carcass' of a dead reaper was found in low orbit of a brown dwarf.

Incidentally that reaper had been dead for millions of years but apparently it could still maintain a mass effect field that withstood much of the atmospheric turbulence it was getting hit with. Also its indoctrination ability was still up and running.

Leaving aside the lame versus scenario bullshit like who has the bigger penis gigatons, or how the reapers could even function in a different setting (i.e. one which has no mass relay system in place), some of their capabilities are pretty powerful, albeit in subtle ways.

Maybe the versus scenario could be about who is the bigger dick, the reapers or the empire :V

[Stark]

Frankly ME2 looks like a reaction to their appallingly bad management leading to a really underwhelming finale in ME1. The reapers as a threat were pretty badly mishandled, and in-universe retcons are dirty pool.

[Imperial528]

Not everyone sleeps with a copy of the ICS under their covers, you know. Or even believes in those numbers to begin with, so criticizing him for "not getting it" is a bit unfair. especially since it's not really obvious that SW possesses that kind of firepower (except the Death Star, and people argue about the implications of that even to this day.)

Oh yes, I realize that. It's just when someone says "we don't really know how this shield works, so a planet-destroying weapon might not work on it" I cringe a little inside. It's kind of like saying "we don't know how <new military body armor here> works, so an anti-tank weapon might not work on it", but then I find that many sci-fi fans are much more interested in the fi than the sci.

[Enigma]

How about make it ME Reapers against Firefly's Reapers?

[lordofchange13]

How about make it ME Reapers against Firefly's Reapers?

my reaction: , firefly has reavers not reapers.

[Enigma]

How about make it ME Reapers against Firefly's Reapers?

my reaction: , firefly has reavers not reapers.

Silly me. Still the match up stands.

[lordofchange13]

How about make it ME Reapers against Firefly's Reapers?

my reaction: , firefly has reavers not reapers.

Silly me. Still the match up stands.

Would be probably the most even cross over ever devised.

[Ugolino]

The Reavers win, hands down.

Malcom Reynolds is afraid of Reavers. Captain Malcom Reynolds is superior to Commander Shepard, as he's a Captain and Shepard is just a Commander. Plus, he's played by Nathan Fillion. As Commander Shepard wins against the Reapers, hands-down, Malcom Reynolds must also win against the Reapers. But if he's afraid of Reavers, that means they must also be capable of winning against the Reapers.

My logic is irrefutable.

[Batman]

When was Mal ever afraid of the Reavers? He acknowledged them as a threat, nothing more. He had no problem posing as one of them in the movie. Also, he was a Captain only insofar as he captained Serenity, which doesn't mean a thing, because the commanding officer of a vessel is always called 'Captain' regardless of actual rank (and that's ignoring that Serenity wasn't a military vessel to begin with so him being 'Captain' essentially meant nothing beyond him being the guy in charge).

[Imperial528]

On the topic of rank...

It should be noted that Commander Shepard was the commanding officer aboard both the Normandy SR1 and SR2, the first also being a state-of-the-art military ship.

[Ted C]

How about make it ME Reapers against Firefly's Reavers?

Given the relatively low-tech setting of Firefly (compared to Star Wars, Star Trek, etc.) and the generally insane nature of the Reavers, I'd say a Reaper would shred them without much difficulty. The Alliance might fend off a Reaper attack, but the Reavers aren't sufficiently organized.

[Darksider]

I doubt the Alliance could successfully fend of a Reaper attack. They possess a single star system which still isn't fully under their control, given the rampant illegal activities conducted on the outer planets. They have no FTL systems, so despite the Reaper's rather slow FTL speed compared to other Sci-Fi verses, they'd possess a major mobility advantage in such a small contained area as the Firefly solar system. If they come in with that kind of advantage and the numbers to devastate a galaxy, (yes the mass relay ruse gave them a significant initial advantage, but they still needed enough ships to go out and conquer everybody. They didn't just do it one planet at a time) They could probably pull it off.