basically how would different major Sci-fi franchises deal with finding a human colony world where a native disease killed off all of the living colonists, but left a colony of almost perfectly human artificial people. (like Data, replicants (without the 5 year lifespan), or n-BSG cylons alone to develop their own.
they do not get diseases, they are created in a special manufacturing plant, they may not realize that they really aren't human...
A colony of "Skin-job" androids
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Re: A colony of "Skin-job" androids
I believe there was a 40K 'Spoken book' with something like this as its premise.
Of course being 40K, grim-dark-bad things soon happen to said newly discovered androids.
Though it has been a while since I listened to the tale and didn't find much to make it memorable, so my recollections are not fantastic upon the details.
Also, since these 'Skin jobs' have a factory that puts them together...how would they rationalize/program their thoughts/processes around such a 'birth'?
Since they are effectively seem to be 'Astro-boy' in design...how does/would a possible lack of children/Childhood effect/affect them?
What is their operating time before major repairs/overhauls?
What is their version of a 'Medical facility' when one gets run over by a bus, type thing?
Much cheers to you and yours.
Of course being 40K, grim-dark-bad things soon happen to said newly discovered androids.
Though it has been a while since I listened to the tale and didn't find much to make it memorable, so my recollections are not fantastic upon the details.
Also, since these 'Skin jobs' have a factory that puts them together...how would they rationalize/program their thoughts/processes around such a 'birth'?
Since they are effectively seem to be 'Astro-boy' in design...how does/would a possible lack of children/Childhood effect/affect them?
What is their operating time before major repairs/overhauls?
What is their version of a 'Medical facility' when one gets run over by a bus, type thing?
Much cheers to you and yours.
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Re: A colony of "Skin-job" androids
Those are vastly different things.
nBSG humanoid cylons are humans with moderate genetic engineering and (presumably) some very discreet cybernetics. No contemporary medical test could distinguish them from the fleet humans, they can interbreed with normal humans (conditional on apparent psychological hang-ups), there are no significant psychological or emotional differences beyond the 'lucid daydreaming' projection ability, physical improvements are very minor (slightly better strength and stamina, limited optical interfacing). Presumably the resurrection infrastructure is not present so there is no sensible reason not to treat them as humans.
Blade Runner replicants are genetically engineered organisms; how close their DNA and biology is to human is never specified, but they are an extremely close anatomic match (fool simple medical tests and intimate physical inspection). It is hard to imagine going to the trouble of replicating trivial things like retina blood vessel structure just to make the product more acceptable to humans, so most likely they are closely based on human DNA and most of the engineering work was being able to quickly grow adults in-vitro instead of having to spend a decade plus rearing a normal clone. There are somewhat more pronounced differences from human, in both physical abilities and psychology, but not outside of the limits of normal human performance. Even those alterations seem to be optional though, considering how close to human Rachael is. Frankly I found the characterisation of them as 'organic robots' somewhat ridiculous; while strictly nonhuman they're closer to human than any of the sentient alien species in popular sci-fi settings.
Soong-type androids are inorganic manufactured robots. Their strength, speed, durability and precision of movement are well beyond the human range. Default appareance and psychology is obviously non-human, the AI design is some mix of artificial neural network and conventional software (based on the TNG dialog), unlike the above they are capable of various mental feats that humans aren't (perfect recall and complex mathematical calculations). One version was apparently running a human upload of unknown fidelity and had some kind of cloaking mechanism to fool typical 23rd century scaning devices, but a skin scraping or any kind of invasive surgery would quickly have revealed her to be inorganic. Unlike the above two types these androids don't age, although they do seem to have ongoing maintenance requirements.
Typical organic-chauvinist settings such as Star Wars really shouldn't object to the first two types, but will of course freak out about the later type.
nBSG humanoid cylons are humans with moderate genetic engineering and (presumably) some very discreet cybernetics. No contemporary medical test could distinguish them from the fleet humans, they can interbreed with normal humans (conditional on apparent psychological hang-ups), there are no significant psychological or emotional differences beyond the 'lucid daydreaming' projection ability, physical improvements are very minor (slightly better strength and stamina, limited optical interfacing). Presumably the resurrection infrastructure is not present so there is no sensible reason not to treat them as humans.
Blade Runner replicants are genetically engineered organisms; how close their DNA and biology is to human is never specified, but they are an extremely close anatomic match (fool simple medical tests and intimate physical inspection). It is hard to imagine going to the trouble of replicating trivial things like retina blood vessel structure just to make the product more acceptable to humans, so most likely they are closely based on human DNA and most of the engineering work was being able to quickly grow adults in-vitro instead of having to spend a decade plus rearing a normal clone. There are somewhat more pronounced differences from human, in both physical abilities and psychology, but not outside of the limits of normal human performance. Even those alterations seem to be optional though, considering how close to human Rachael is. Frankly I found the characterisation of them as 'organic robots' somewhat ridiculous; while strictly nonhuman they're closer to human than any of the sentient alien species in popular sci-fi settings.
Soong-type androids are inorganic manufactured robots. Their strength, speed, durability and precision of movement are well beyond the human range. Default appareance and psychology is obviously non-human, the AI design is some mix of artificial neural network and conventional software (based on the TNG dialog), unlike the above they are capable of various mental feats that humans aren't (perfect recall and complex mathematical calculations). One version was apparently running a human upload of unknown fidelity and had some kind of cloaking mechanism to fool typical 23rd century scaning devices, but a skin scraping or any kind of invasive surgery would quickly have revealed her to be inorganic. Unlike the above two types these androids don't age, although they do seem to have ongoing maintenance requirements.
Typical organic-chauvinist settings such as Star Wars really shouldn't object to the first two types, but will of course freak out about the later type.
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Re: A colony of "Skin-job" androids
They were clones, of a sort, called Replicae. But not actual steel and silicon machines, merely programmed people.Dass.Kapital wrote:I believe there was a 40K 'Spoken book' with something like this as its premise.
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Re: A colony of "Skin-job" androids
Interesting, well if there's anywhere to start in terms of franchises, I guess Star Wars would be a good place to start.
In Star Wars, I see the Republic (old or new) doing what they do with most droids who develop personalities, the wipe there memories. After that, the droids are placed on the market and the factory used to build premium model HRDs (Human Replica Droids).
I suspect Palatine's Empire would react much the same way, with an more evil bent. For example, I imagine that they would likely memory wipe all the droids and then re-purpose them as assassin and/or infiltration droids while using the factory to build more HRD droids as needed. Alternately, if the skin jobs resist and are too much trouble for the Empire, then I see them bombing the colony into a crater.
In Star Wars, I see the Republic (old or new) doing what they do with most droids who develop personalities, the wipe there memories. After that, the droids are placed on the market and the factory used to build premium model HRDs (Human Replica Droids).
I suspect Palatine's Empire would react much the same way, with an more evil bent. For example, I imagine that they would likely memory wipe all the droids and then re-purpose them as assassin and/or infiltration droids while using the factory to build more HRD droids as needed. Alternately, if the skin jobs resist and are too much trouble for the Empire, then I see them bombing the colony into a crater.