Eve vs Greene vs Kerrigan vs LichKing vs Tyranid vs Borg
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Eve vs Greene vs Kerrigan vs LichKing vs Tyranid vs Borg
The Great Hive Queen and king Battle, we have Eve from Parasite Eve, Elizabeth Greene from Prototype, Sarah Kerrigan from StarCraft, the Lich King Arthas from World of Warcraft, the Tyranid biotitan, the Dominatrix (I believe these are the closest to a Tyranid queen that can function on the ground), and finally the Borg Queen in a free for all deathmatch last one standing wins.
The setting is an Imperial Hiveworld from Warhammer 40k it has a population of 100 billion humans and has been totally cut-off from the rest of the Imperium so no reinforcements are available. I'm not sure how they rate military strength in 40k but this hiveworld does have a relatively strong military with good production capability so expect a trained competent PDF equipped with guard quality weapons, heavy armor and aerial support (Baneblades, Marauder Bombers, etc) . The challengers have been scattered across the planet and must try to wrest control of the planet from the others.
Elizabeth Greene is known for her ability to constantly produce variants of the Blacklight virus (a few hundred a day) and her control over it. She will have much greater control over the Blacklight virus this time around as she has the absorbed abilities of Mercer, Heller, and the Supreme Hunter.
Sarah Kerrigan also known as the Queen Bitch and leader of the Zerg Swarm in addition to her powerful psychic and biological powers she is also given a hive and a few drones as well.
Lich King Arthas and the entirety of his Scourge army have been brought to the surface of the planet, Arthas even gets Icecrown Citadel and his plagues as well.
Eve is known for mastery of manipulation of mitochondria. Eve has the Parasite Eve 1 Ultimate being and Parasite Eve 2 Ultimate Being assisting her. If she is out of her league here giving her Aya's powers as well is okay.
The Tyranids manage to get a Dominatrix onto the surface and a few hundred spores as well.
The Borg have accidentally crashed into the planet so their ship is no longer flight capable and the Borg Queen herself is on the ship as well and has determined that they should assimilate this world. In addition to the queen the Borg start out with an entire ship filled with Borg drones (about 100,000?) and any equipment and weapons they typically carry with them.
The setting is an Imperial Hiveworld from Warhammer 40k it has a population of 100 billion humans and has been totally cut-off from the rest of the Imperium so no reinforcements are available. I'm not sure how they rate military strength in 40k but this hiveworld does have a relatively strong military with good production capability so expect a trained competent PDF equipped with guard quality weapons, heavy armor and aerial support (Baneblades, Marauder Bombers, etc) . The challengers have been scattered across the planet and must try to wrest control of the planet from the others.
Elizabeth Greene is known for her ability to constantly produce variants of the Blacklight virus (a few hundred a day) and her control over it. She will have much greater control over the Blacklight virus this time around as she has the absorbed abilities of Mercer, Heller, and the Supreme Hunter.
Sarah Kerrigan also known as the Queen Bitch and leader of the Zerg Swarm in addition to her powerful psychic and biological powers she is also given a hive and a few drones as well.
Lich King Arthas and the entirety of his Scourge army have been brought to the surface of the planet, Arthas even gets Icecrown Citadel and his plagues as well.
Eve is known for mastery of manipulation of mitochondria. Eve has the Parasite Eve 1 Ultimate being and Parasite Eve 2 Ultimate Being assisting her. If she is out of her league here giving her Aya's powers as well is okay.
The Tyranids manage to get a Dominatrix onto the surface and a few hundred spores as well.
The Borg have accidentally crashed into the planet so their ship is no longer flight capable and the Borg Queen herself is on the ship as well and has determined that they should assimilate this world. In addition to the queen the Borg start out with an entire ship filled with Borg drones (about 100,000?) and any equipment and weapons they typically carry with them.
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Also, a angry, angry horde of mutant Californians with arms made of swords coming from their groins, and flamethrowers for shoulders come and incinerate all of them just because.
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And that's related to this vs debate in what way now?Eulogy wrote:Chuck Norris touches down and roundhouse kicks them all in the face.
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It's related in that it is just like this scenario- It's absolutely ridiculous.
Also, the Lich King, seriously? A modern army wouldn't have too much trouble against the undead, and you seriously expect him to be able to even survive in a battle involving space-faring civilizations?
Although I'm sure even he'd do better than the other two non-spacers (Eve and Greene) mostly because something which is dead can be resurrected as a servant of the Lich King, although I'm still not entirely sure about that.
We don't even know if Zerg/Nids/Borg can be affected by either Eve's powers or the blacklight virus, which given the mentioned faction's known bio/nano-wank abilities, they probably can't be affected/will adapt. Well, except maybe basic infested terrans, but they're not exactly the majority of Zerg forces. Borg humans would probably be rendered immune due to nanotechnobabble, and I don't know enough about the 'nids to be sure.
Also, the Lich King, seriously? A modern army wouldn't have too much trouble against the undead, and you seriously expect him to be able to even survive in a battle involving space-faring civilizations?
Although I'm sure even he'd do better than the other two non-spacers (Eve and Greene) mostly because something which is dead can be resurrected as a servant of the Lich King, although I'm still not entirely sure about that.
We don't even know if Zerg/Nids/Borg can be affected by either Eve's powers or the blacklight virus, which given the mentioned faction's known bio/nano-wank abilities, they probably can't be affected/will adapt. Well, except maybe basic infested terrans, but they're not exactly the majority of Zerg forces. Borg humans would probably be rendered immune due to nanotechnobabble, and I don't know enough about the 'nids to be sure.
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I think it's implied even in the canon material that the Lich King is immortal outside the Frozen Throne (location that is not the game), at least to the firepower warcraft powers can dish out and while Arthas has rather large ego he isn't totally uncapable of cunning. Also WH40K has it's zombies and those aren't a footnote (plague zombies created by the powers of nurgle)
that said apart from involving the 'nids I see to reason to place this in warhammer 40k verse.
that said apart from involving the 'nids I see to reason to place this in warhammer 40k verse.
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I don't know much about the Lich King but I heard he was absurdly powerful and quite capable of taking things like spacemarines down so I thought maybe the scourge would do alright here, plus once they start infecting soldiers they'd have a strong military as well like their own tanks, aircraft, lasguns, etc. Also its worth noting World of Warcraft monsters are incredibly powerful the way I see it lvl 1 equals human beyond that we are getting into superhuman territory.Imperial528 wrote:It's related in that it is just like this scenario- It's absolutely ridiculous.
Also, the Lich King, seriously? A modern army wouldn't have too much trouble against the undead, and you seriously expect him to be able to even survive in a battle involving space-faring civilizations?
Although I'm sure even he'd do better than the other two non-spacers (Eve and Greene) mostly because something which is dead can be resurrected as a servant of the Lich King, although I'm still not entirely sure about that.
We don't even know if Zerg/Nids/Borg can be affected by either Eve's powers or the blacklight virus, which given the mentioned faction's known bio/nano-wank abilities, they probably can't be affected/will adapt. Well, except maybe basic infested terrans, but they're not exactly the majority of Zerg forces. Borg humans would probably be rendered immune due to nanotechnobabble, and I don't know enough about the 'nids to be sure.
As for Eve and Greene (with all of Alex Mercer's power and skill, with Hellers, and the Supreme Hunter also all combined) both of them are quite powerful. I'm quite certain they could be very competitive in this matchup, and easily quite capable of atleast wrecking the PDF.
As for what powers effect who.
Eve would probably not be able to affect Zerg, Tyranids, or those tainted with the Blacklight virus due to the lack of mitochondria or the mitochondria they do have being too alien or mutated for her to control. She could take over their dead bodies however since in game her powers work on the dead as well making her quite capable of resurrecting 65+ million year old dinosaur bones and turning them into fire-breathing, energy mortar launching T-rexes or something like that. She also probably could effect the Borg since they are basically cyborgs with otherwise normal mitochondria.
The Blacklight virus probably would not have really any effect on the Undead besides breaking them down after they are defeated for more biomass. Eve's infected may also be immune to its touch, Zerg and Tyranids could potentially become infected there hasn't been a single case where any living creature survived exposure to Blacklight at the very least even if it can't infect them once the Zerg or Tyranid lifeforms are dead the Blacklight virus would have some really interesting DNA to play with making it extremely powerful (just imagine if Greene learned what the Zerg or Tyranids know about genetics and biology). The Borg maybe immune since nanomachines > supervirus but I'm not sure how powerful their immune systems really are.
The Zerg's ability to infest others will most likely not work on Tyranids, the Blacklight virus, Eve, or the Undead, it may work on the Borg but it depends on the strength of their immune systems.
The Plague of Undeath will most likely not harm the Blacklight virus, Zerg, Tyranids, Eve, or the Borg but once a member of any of these factions die and their bodies haven't already been reclaimed, Scourge Necromancers could bring their corpses back to fight for them.
The Borg probably could not infect the Zerg, Tyranids, Eve, or the Blacklight virus creatures with powerful immune systems may be immune like Species 8472. The Borg also can't infect the undead either since there has been no indication that the Borg nanoprobes can infect the dead.
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What do you mean? Its just a random setting.Lord Revan wrote: that said apart from involving the 'nids I see to reason to place this in warhammer 40k verse.
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nothing beond what's stated openly.gamer wrote:What do you mean? Its just a random setting.Lord Revan wrote: that said apart from involving the 'nids I see to reason to place this in warhammer 40k verse.
as far Arthas' powers it's a really really big question mark, but what we do know is that he can only be killed at the frozen throne by anything Azeroth can normally use. it's obviously not a without limits but what those limits are is unknown. Also he has immence mental powers and is capable of controlling sentient beings against their will (with some unknown limits) Sir Zeliak is a good example of this, how ever his main weakness is his overblown ego and without his chief servants he is in weaker position then most here (also the Plague of Undeath is at least partially magical and is know to be leathal to pretty much all life on Azeroth (though only humans rise as the undead))
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If the Borg get their weapons and equipment, and the Borg Queen is with them, then the entire planet is royally fucked over.
The Borg queen is in CONSTANT contact with the rest of the collective. That means the Borg know the Queens ship is down, and she summons another one or they send one to get her. The Borg can easily repair their cube (we've seen them regenerate while at Warp speeds and under weapons fire), meaning they can get their shields, transporters, and starship grade weapons up.
The end result will be the borg in an invulnerable position they can just beam stuff into to assimilate one at a time, with more cubes showing up for Orbital assault/assimiliation.
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The Borg queen is in CONSTANT contact with the rest of the collective. That means the Borg know the Queens ship is down, and she summons another one or they send one to get her. The Borg can easily repair their cube (we've seen them regenerate while at Warp speeds and under weapons fire), meaning they can get their shields, transporters, and starship grade weapons up.
The end result will be the borg in an invulnerable position they can just beam stuff into to assimilate one at a time, with more cubes showing up for Orbital assault/assimiliation.
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First, being able to kill a spacemarine or ten doesn't mean he could take out a ground army of them. Remember, Arthas may be extremely powerful in the sense of controlling the scourge by his will and be an extremely capable necromancer, but physically he is still just a man. That's the whole thing with high-magic WarCraft anything, unless it's some sort of spirit, physically killing it will probably take it out for good (Like when Grom's Warsong Orcs killed Cenarius, or Thrall and Grom killing Manoroth) and if the thing isn't killed, it might as well be dead or will be simply a much less powerful spirit, trapped in the mortal world. (Sargeras' demise at the Well of Eternity, the Archmagi of the Kirin-Tor that Arthas killed, etc.) I don't know how much WoW has changed things, but it can't be enough to invalidate evidence from an entire previous game.gamer wrote:I don't know much about the Lich King but I heard he was absurdly powerful and quite capable of taking things like spacemarines down so I thought maybe the scourge would do alright here, plus once they start infecting soldiers they'd have a strong military as well like their own tanks, aircraft, lasguns, etc.
Second, the undead do not "infect" things in the sense that the other combatants in this versus do, they resurrect or reanimate the corpses of the dead. And neither of those will work on a vehicle that's been damaged or destroyed. During a battle that might get them troops that use guns, but these troops won't last long unless they were reanimated by a very powerful caster (permanent reanimation of an intelligent being is a lot different than the stock death knight's ability to reanimate nearby corpses for a time.) Furthermore, even if they manage to get people that can do things like operate a tank or fly a jet, they have no industrial base to support these things, let alone the knowledge on how to use them properly.
Game mechanics aren't evidence.gamer wrote:Also its worth noting World of Warcraft monsters are incredibly powerful the way I see it lvl 1 equals human beyond that we are getting into superhuman territory.
I don't know about the blacklight virus infected people, but here's something I do know: The Zerg and the Tyranids are completely alien lifeforms, they might have a mitochondria equivalent, or they might function in a completely different manner, the point is, we don't know, and given the evidence it's safe to assume they don't have mitochondria that is at all similar to Earth mitochondria. This also goes for Borg species that are aliens. Not to mention that Borg nanites would probably just destroy the mitochondria in all of them and act as substitutes for them once the Borg figured out what was going on.gamer wrote:She could take over their dead bodies however since in game her powers work on the dead as well making her quite capable of resurrecting 65+ million year old dinosaur bones and turning them into fire-breathing, energy mortar launching T-rexes or something like that. She also probably could effect the Borg since they are basically cyborgs with otherwise normal mitochondria.
Why should we assume that a virus made on Earth by a civilization with little knowledge of alien life (if any) could even be compatible with the biology of the Zerg or the Tyranids? Both the Zerg and the 'Nids are very genetically diverse creatures that have been eating other life and using it to their purposes for thousands of years, and in the case of the Zerg they were outright engineered to do that. Furthermore, in order to gain the knowledge of the Swarm the virus would probably have to kill a Cerebrate, and maybe not even then could it get all, since the Zerg don't have any sort of genetic memory, and it is likely that only the Overmind knows everything about the Zerg, Kerrigan is probably the second most knowledgeable, along with the Xel'Naga. You'd only get the genetic information of the strain the Zerg being analyzed belonged to whether it was alive or dead.gamer wrote:The Blacklight virus probably would not have really any effect on the Undead besides breaking them down after they are defeated for more biomass. Eve's infected may also be immune to its touch, Zerg and Tyranids could potentially become infected there hasn't been a single case where any living creature survived exposure to Blacklight at the very least even if it can't infect them once the Zerg or Tyranid lifeforms are dead the Blacklight virus would have some really interesting DNA to play with making it extremely powerful (just imagine if Greene learned what the Zerg or Tyranids know about genetics and biology). The Borg maybe immune since nanomachines > supervirus but I'm not sure how powerful their immune systems really are.
And in terms of analyzing the enemy, there is nothing to stop the Zerg, Tyranids, and the Borg from analyzing the remains of Blacklight virus infected things or Eve's minions, and unlike those two they've been at it a whole lot longer.
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Lets assume they can't get reinforcements for the same reason the planet has been cutoff from the rest of the Imperium, and "the powers that be" prevent the Borg from ever repairing their ship.Solauren wrote:If the Borg get their weapons and equipment, and the Borg Queen is with them, then the entire planet is royally fucked over.
The Borg queen is in CONSTANT contact with the rest of the collective. That means the Borg know the Queens ship is down, and she summons another one or they send one to get her. The Borg can easily repair their cube (we've seen them regenerate while at Warp speeds and under weapons fire), meaning they can get their shields, transporters, and starship grade weapons up.
The end result will be the borg in an invulnerable position they can just beam stuff into to assimilate one at a time, with more cubes showing up for Orbital assault/assimiliation.
Q said it best - DO NOT PROVOKE THE BORG. (Unless you have a massively superior technical base).
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Well it's stated rather clearly that cannot be killed outside the Frozen Throne portion of the Icecrown Citadel (note even at a different location at the citadel), the RPG explains this as an enchant in his armor, while non-canon it makes sense seeing as the thing was made by Kil'jaden who is one of the most powerfull characters in Warcraft.
Also Arthas isn't totally rock stupid, he would probably build up an army capable of at least defending his own territory before making his move.
also the Plague of Undead does infect (well sort of) like the others do, also the Scrouge is capable of repairing and building things (at least to a degree).
Also Arthas isn't totally rock stupid, he would probably build up an army capable of at least defending his own territory before making his move.
also the Plague of Undead does infect (well sort of) like the others do, also the Scrouge is capable of repairing and building things (at least to a degree).
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The Blacklight virus works by assimilation think The Thing except on steroids if the Zerg or Tyranids have DNA and if a member of their species is absorbed someone like Greene would have complete access to their genetic code to do whatever with and assimilation/analyzation happens in seconds (even Tyranids and Zerg can't adapt that fast, and the Borg they can adapt their technology but they don't seem to have the same capability when it comes to biologicals look at how they handle Species 8742). She could get quite creative with it as well look at all the monstrous creatures in Prototype all of them were created with human DNA and maybe some local wildlife (pigeons, rats, whatever else exists in Manhattan) imagine what she could do with the DNA of the Zerg or Tyranids. As for infecting them with the Blacklight virus, again it works like the Thing its cells eat your cells absorb their genetic information and then use it to look like you or in the case of most infected a horrible mockery of you and all of this happens in seconds, I'm not sure if the Zerg or Tyranids can survive having something eat them alive from the inside out in seconds but if they can good for them (the Tyranids maybe able to resist but I have my doubts on the Zerg). Now the airborne strain of the Blacklight virus probably won't affect them at all it doesn't seem as aggressive.Imperial528 wrote:Why should we assume that a virus made on Earth by a civilization with little knowledge of alien life (if any) could even be compatible with the biology of the Zerg or the Tyranids? Both the Zerg and the 'Nids are very genetically diverse creatures that have been eating other life and using it to their purposes for thousands of years, and in the case of the Zerg they were outright engineered to do that. Furthermore, in order to gain the knowledge of the Swarm the virus would probably have to kill a Cerebrate, and maybe not even then could it get all, since the Zerg don't have any sort of genetic memory, and it is likely that only the Overmind knows everything about the Zerg, Kerrigan is probably the second most knowledgeable, along with the Xel'Naga. You'd only get the genetic information of the strain the Zerg being analyzed belonged to whether it was alive or dead.
And in terms of analyzing the enemy, there is nothing to stop the Zerg, Tyranids, and the Borg from analyzing the remains of Blacklight virus infected things or Eve's minions, and unlike those two they've been at it a whole lot longer.
I know Eve probably can't infect living Tyranids, Zerg, or maybe even the Blacklight virus but she probably could resurrect the dead, this ability of hers is a little different than her other powers what basically happens is instead of psychically activating the mitochondria in the corpses (65+ million year old dinosaur bones likely don't have any living mitochondria) she seems to inject them with her own mitochondria which mutate and regenerate the missing flesh, so I don't see how a dead body would be immune to this. And the borg who are affected adapting by stripping all the mitochondria from their bodies seems like a massive stretch, their control over their own biology doesn't seem that high. The Borg aliens may be immune to her power though, but those human borg are out of luck. Then again aren't many star trek races capable of cross-species reproduction? If this is the case then their mitochondrial DNA can't be much different than that of a human. Also you said something about analyzing and using Eve's minions? That wouldn't be too difficult but it would be a terrible, terrible idea, remember Eve's power is tied to mitochondria if you try to infect her minions or create your own you will simply end up spreading her influence.Imperial528 wrote:I don't know about the blacklight virus infected people, but here's something I do know: The Zerg and the Tyranids are completely alien lifeforms, they might have a mitochondria equivalent, or they might function in a completely different manner, the point is, we don't know, and given the evidence it's safe to assume they don't have mitochondria that is at all similar to Earth mitochondria. This also goes for Borg species that are aliens. Not to mention that Borg nanites would probably just destroy the mitochondria in all of them and act as substitutes for them once the Borg figured out what was going on.
I don't know much about the Lich King to comment, I just heard he was around god-tier in World of Warcraft and can create armies of the dead.Imperial528 wrote:First, being able to kill a spacemarine or ten doesn't mean he could take out a ground army of them. Remember, Arthas may be extremely powerful in the sense of controlling the scourge by his will and be an extremely capable necromancer, but physically he is still just a man. That's the whole thing with high-magic WarCraft anything, unless it's some sort of spirit, physically killing it will probably take it out for good (Like when Grom's Warsong Orcs killed Cenarius, or Thrall and Grom killing Manoroth) and if the thing isn't killed, it might as well be dead or will be simply a much less powerful spirit, trapped in the mortal world. (Sargeras' demise at the Well of Eternity, the Archmagi of the Kirin-Tor that Arthas killed, etc.) I don't know how much WoW has changed things, but it can't be enough to invalidate evidence from an entire previous game.
Second, the undead do not "infect" things in the sense that the other combatants in this versus do, they resurrect or reanimate the corpses of the dead. And neither of those will work on a vehicle that's been damaged or destroyed. During a battle that might get them troops that use guns, but these troops won't last long unless they were reanimated by a very powerful caster (permanent reanimation of an intelligent being is a lot different than the stock death knight's ability to reanimate nearby corpses for a time.) Furthermore, even if they manage to get people that can do things like operate a tank or fly a jet, they have no industrial base to support these things, let alone the knowledge on how to use them properly.
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You just love pulling shit out of your ass, don't you?The Blacklight virus works by assimilation think The Thing except on steroids if the Zerg or Tyranids have DNA and if a member of their species is absorbed someone like Greene would have complete access to their genetic code to do whatever with and assimilation/analyzation happens in seconds
This is the same shit that happened in the other thread. "Oh hey, X works on regular humans, it must work on anything, even superhumans. I have no evidence to support this but I'm going to assert it." You know how the Blacklight virus works on human biology. Wonderful. That says nothing as to how it will work when it encounters completely alien biology like the Zerg or the Tyranids, and considering both of those races have their own crazy fucking ability to mutate and alter human and alien lifeforms, there's no way to know how Blacklight would react with them.
I especially love how you feel the need to cripple the Borg in this scenario by author fiat so they're stuck with drones and are thus obviously little more than cannon fodder for the other races. Classy.
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If the Borg have their ships its a rape stomp none of the other factions could even hope to win so I took it away.SilverWingedSeraph wrote:You just love pulling shit out of your ass, don't you?The Blacklight virus works by assimilation think The Thing except on steroids if the Zerg or Tyranids have DNA and if a member of their species is absorbed someone like Greene would have complete access to their genetic code to do whatever with and assimilation/analyzation happens in seconds
This is the same shit that happened in the other thread. "Oh hey, X works on regular humans, it must work on anything, even superhumans. I have no evidence to support this but I'm going to assert it." You know how the Blacklight virus works on human biology. Wonderful. That says nothing as to how it will work when it encounters completely alien biology like the Zerg or the Tyranids, and considering both of those races have their own crazy fucking ability to mutate and alter human and alien lifeforms, there's no way to know how Blacklight would react with them.
I especially love how you feel the need to cripple the Borg in this scenario by author fiat so they're stuck with drones and are thus obviously little more than cannon fodder for the other races. Classy.
As for Blacklight it really does work just like the thing and yes it works on superhumans anything biological can be absorbed it breaks down biological matter absorbs it into itself, analyzes it and uses the new information, it can even extract memories from the people consumed by it. I really don't see how they'd be immune to this.
This is Heller infecting a man
Mercer consuming a soldier.
Greene uses her hives for collecting genetic information by bringing the dead to them and breaking their bodies down and absorbing them.
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HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS!? There is no evidence of it ever being used against any superhumans! It's not like we see fucking Alex Mercer cross over into the inFamous games and fucking consume Cole. You are making an unfounded fucking assertion.As for Blacklight it really does work just like the thing and yes it works on superhumans
Because their biology is completely fucking alien, how is this difficult for your tiny brain to understand!? Just because it can consume and analyze and recreate HUMAN AND EARTH-BASED BIOLOGY, it does not follow that it could do the same with EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL BIOLOGY. You are making an assertion. You are presenting no evidence to support it. Fuck. Offffffffff.anything biological can be absorbed it breaks down biological matter absorbs it into itself, analyzes it and uses the new information, it can even extract memories from the people consumed by it. I really don't see how they'd be immune to this.
I don't know why you posted that fucking video, because I never said it doesn't work on humans. I said you're pulling shit out of your ass by assuming it would work on alien life forms. Are you really this retarded?
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Not necessarily this retarded, but definitely this biased. We're talking about a guy who thinks Eve could actually beat the JLA.
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Re: Eve vs Greene vs Kerrigan vs LichKing vs Tyranid vs Borg
Why couldn't Mercer or any other blacklight infected consume Cole?SilverWingedSeraph wrote:HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS!? There is no evidence of it ever being used against any superhumans! It's not like we see fucking Alex Mercer cross over into the inFamous games and fucking consume Cole. You are making an unfounded fucking assertion.As for Blacklight it really does work just like the thing and yes it works on superhumansBecause their biology is completely fucking alien, how is this difficult for your tiny brain to understand!? Just because it can consume and analyze and recreate HUMAN AND EARTH-BASED BIOLOGY, it does not follow that it could do the same with EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL BIOLOGY. You are making an assertion. You are presenting no evidence to support it. Fuck. Offffffffff.anything biological can be absorbed it breaks down biological matter absorbs it into itself, analyzes it and uses the new information, it can even extract memories from the people consumed by it. I really don't see how they'd be immune to this.
I don't know why you posted that fucking video, because I never said it doesn't work on humans. I said you're pulling shit out of your ass by assuming it would work on alien life forms. Are you really this retarded?
This is a superhuman, these guys can take a 120mm HEAT round to the face and still keep fighting and strong enough to rip through tank armor like zyrofoam and yet they are capable of being consumed.
Sure perhaps Blacklight can't turn them into zombified slaves but I see no problems with it consuming their biomass. It's not like they are made out of fire or something else inconceivable of being eaten just flesh and blood, and also considering Blacklight not only can consume flesh, blood, and bone, it also consumes clothing, gasmasks, and other things the person being consumed is wearing, and in advanced forms like Mercer, Heller, and the Supreme Hunter it can even replicate these non-biological consumed items including creating working radios.
Your rage is childish.
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Your threads are childish. My rage is more "irritation at stupid idiot making stupid threads so he can wank over Eve and the Blacklight virus". Yes, I know, the Blacklight virus is very impressive. But no moreso than the Zerg or Tyranids in many respects. Just because you "see no problems with it consuming their biomass" doesn't actually mean it's capable of doing it. You are still making assumptions. You're very fond of them. But I'm not going to argue the point further. It's quite possible that it could. My irritation is with your continued efforts to make assumptions to support the sides your biases tell you should win.
In this vs., I honestly have no idea who would win, because it's a jumbled mash-up of horrible. I know who wouldn't win. The Borg. Unless their nanoprobes can infect Blacklight Virus carriers. Oh wait, lemme guess, you're gonna say that totally couldn't happen, right?
In this vs., I honestly have no idea who would win, because it's a jumbled mash-up of horrible. I know who wouldn't win. The Borg. Unless their nanoprobes can infect Blacklight Virus carriers. Oh wait, lemme guess, you're gonna say that totally couldn't happen, right?
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Re: Eve vs Greene vs Kerrigan vs LichKing vs Tyranid vs Borg
I don't know why you are calling this wank getting mad at me for saying it probably could eat an alien is pretty silly, especially your counter argument which consists of "it's alien duh". Blacklight can eat a radio, clothing, and body armor and replicate this what makes you think it can't eat an alien? Unless the aliens aren't using DNA and made out of metal I don't see the problem.SilverWingedSeraph wrote:Your threads are childish. My rage is more "irritation at stupid idiot making stupid threads so he can wank over Eve and the Blacklight virus". Yes, I know, the Blacklight virus is very impressive. But no moreso than the Zerg or Tyranids in many respects. Just because you "see no problems with it consuming their biomass" doesn't actually mean it's capable of doing it. You are still making assumptions. You're very fond of them. But I'm not going to argue the point further. It's quite possible that it could. My irritation is with your continued efforts to make assumptions to support the sides your biases tell you should win.
In this vs., I honestly have no idea who would win, because it's a jumbled mash-up of horrible. I know who wouldn't win. The Borg. Unless their nanoprobes can infect Blacklight Virus carriers. Oh wait, lemme guess, you're gonna say that totally couldn't happen, right?
Also how am I wanking Eve in any way?
And yes, I am having doubts on the Borg infecting any of the competitors here since the only real non humanoid race they come across Species 8472 is incapable of being assimilated. But it doesn't matter they are on a planet of 100 billion humans. They start out with an army of 100,000 armed soldiers (I thought the Borg had some pretty tough soldiers) which is more than what anyone else starts out with except for the Scourge, since this is the entire Scourge army their army starts somewhere in the millions.
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Your entire argument has been "Blacklight can eat and replicate anything, alien or not, as long as it's alive! Hurrr!" And that's dumb and unsupported by any evidence.I don't know why you are calling this wank getting mad at me for saying it probably could eat an alien is pretty silly, especially your counter argument which consists of "it's alien duh". Blacklight can eat a radio, clothing, and body armor and replicate this what makes you think it can't eat an alien? Unless the aliens aren't using DNA and made out of metal I don't see the problem.
Which had little to do with Species 8472 being non-humanoid and was mostly to do with the fact that they were aliens from another dimension of space who may or may not be shapeshifters, depending on how canon Star Trek: Online is.And yes, I am having doubts on the Borg infecting any of the competitors here since the only real non humanoid race they come across Species 8472 is incapable of being assimilated.
This is true, and this is why the only way this thread can be not-retarded is if you limit the assimilation/consuming/mutating abilities of each faction to the humans in question. Because there are at least three factions involved, not including Zerg or Tyranid, that are capable of taking over minds, altering bodies and enhancing dudes, and the only way to figure out how they would interact with or affect each other, or which would win out, relies entirely on guesswork. You don't know.But it doesn't matter they are on a planet of 100 billion humans. They start out with an army of 100,000 armed soldiers (I thought the Borg had some pretty tough soldiers) which is more than what anyone else starts out with except for the Scourge, since this is the entire Scourge army their army starts somewhere in the millions.
So just limit Blacklight's consuming ability to regular humans, limit Eves mitochondrial manipulation to regular humans, and limit borg assimilation to humans, and then maybe we can actually make something that's not a huge clusterfuck of guesswork out of this thread.
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Re: Eve vs Greene vs Kerrigan vs LichKing vs Tyranid vs Borg
Gamer, I don't know what the others' problems with you are, but here are my problems with this versus, which I'll lay out here:
1. Out of the six combatants, half of them are space-faring races. These pretty much already become the real deciders, especially the tyranids and the zerg, because they can, given enough time and space, actually grow their starships on the planet. (Hell, Zerg mutalisks (light flying units) can achieve orbit on their own power, repeatedly, with ease. Don't ask how, no one knows.)
The three space-faring races can easily ignore the ground combatants if needed, essentially rendering them irrelevant. Which brings us to #2.
2. The three ground combatants are completely out of their league. It's not like they're as powerful on the ground as the other three, they just lack space ships. On the contrary, they're outright inferior. One could argue that the Lich King could potentially be a big problem for the space-farers, by virtue of magic, except for the problem that all undead forces are used to and are equipped to and designed around fighting with swords and shields. Out of the remaining two, you have the blacklight virus, which could be a threat, except we know it's actually not a very durable virus relative to the competition (it can't survive transmission through a river, and the airborne strain can't go far at all) and we also know that the military was a viable threat to it. Then you have Eve, which is wholly dependent on a single aspect of Earth biology for her greater abilities, and the only race that would have a chance of being vulnerable to Eve's powers also happens to be a cyborg race that plays with biology on a daily basis.
3. You ignore these things and just say "Oh but mitochondria and super-virus and maybe they won't be vulnerable but then maybe they will and since we can't say they're not vulnerable they probably are because they have DNA" and repeat ad nauseum.
1. Out of the six combatants, half of them are space-faring races. These pretty much already become the real deciders, especially the tyranids and the zerg, because they can, given enough time and space, actually grow their starships on the planet. (Hell, Zerg mutalisks (light flying units) can achieve orbit on their own power, repeatedly, with ease. Don't ask how, no one knows.)
The three space-faring races can easily ignore the ground combatants if needed, essentially rendering them irrelevant. Which brings us to #2.
2. The three ground combatants are completely out of their league. It's not like they're as powerful on the ground as the other three, they just lack space ships. On the contrary, they're outright inferior. One could argue that the Lich King could potentially be a big problem for the space-farers, by virtue of magic, except for the problem that all undead forces are used to and are equipped to and designed around fighting with swords and shields. Out of the remaining two, you have the blacklight virus, which could be a threat, except we know it's actually not a very durable virus relative to the competition (it can't survive transmission through a river, and the airborne strain can't go far at all) and we also know that the military was a viable threat to it. Then you have Eve, which is wholly dependent on a single aspect of Earth biology for her greater abilities, and the only race that would have a chance of being vulnerable to Eve's powers also happens to be a cyborg race that plays with biology on a daily basis.
3. You ignore these things and just say "Oh but mitochondria and super-virus and maybe they won't be vulnerable but then maybe they will and since we can't say they're not vulnerable they probably are because they have DNA" and repeat ad nauseum.
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Re: Eve vs Greene vs Kerrigan vs LichKing vs Tyranid vs Borg
Tbh the main problem with Starcraft and Warcraft is that we know next to nothing about their capabilities, as gameplay stats or visuals are out of the questions due to game balance issue (though cutscenes work).
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