What If: Stargate Made Public
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What If: Stargate Made Public
Before the mission to Abydos, once they figure out what exactly the Stargate is capable of doing and how to turn it on/ dial it etc. the President suspends all operations and releases the knowledge to the rest of the world. What happens next?
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Complex question. Honestly, from a strategic assessment, the Stargate grants a huge advantage to the United States, one that cannot be ignored. They have access to possible alien technology and weaponry that far exceeds anything currently on Earth, something that would give the United States military even more power. Also, it grants the US the ability to send covert colonies to uninhabited worlds to set up new mineral extractions, meaning that while some resources (like oil) run out, the US can still run full tilt. Sure, the Stargate is a bottleneck, but it's something that cannot be underestimated either.
I honestly think the situation won't happen unless the President is so short-sighted or so ignorant that he can't see the Stargate as a unique opportunity that shouldn't be squandered.
I honestly think the situation won't happen unless the President is so short-sighted or so ignorant that he can't see the Stargate as a unique opportunity that shouldn't be squandered.
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I strongly disagree. Truth be told, I think the Stargate not being made public was more unlikely than the Stargate being made public. Either way, nobody is aware of the alien technology yet, nor any mineral deposits. All they know is that they can establish a wormhole. They don't know what's on the other side.Baffalo wrote:Complex question. Honestly, from a strategic assessment, the Stargate grants a huge advantage to the United States, one that cannot be ignored. They have access to possible alien technology and weaponry that far exceeds anything currently on Earth, something that would give the United States military even more power. Also, it grants the US the ability to send covert colonies to uninhabited worlds to set up new mineral extractions, meaning that while some resources (like oil) run out, the US can still run full tilt. Sure, the Stargate is a bottleneck, but it's something that cannot be underestimated either.
I honestly think the situation won't happen unless the President is so short-sighted or so ignorant that he can't see the Stargate as a unique opportunity that shouldn't be squandered.
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I would think the Stargate would be become an international scientific project. Like the LHC or any bigger science endavour nowadays is. And the moment they learn of hostile aliens, everything will be more or less just like in the second halve of SG-1's run. (I assume all the people from the Stargate frenchise exist and will behave more ore less the same.)
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Oooh I was thinking of a different point in the franchise. My bad. But still... if I were President, I'd still consider launching American expeditions first, just to see what was available. If the UN wants to complain of America keeping secrets, I can always point out that it was to ensure the thing worked first and that we had a viable wormhole before alerting the entire scientific community.Chirios wrote:I strongly disagree. Truth be told, I think the Stargate not being made public was more unlikely than the Stargate being made public. Either way, nobody is aware of the alien technology yet, nor any mineral deposits. All they know is that they can establish a wormhole. They don't know what's on the other side.
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First, Egypt points out that the most important archaeological find in the history of ever was found on Egyptian soil. I don't know how big a piece of the pie they'd want, but at the very least that would delay that first mission until that's been sorted out.
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True, but the Stargate was unearthed in 1928 or something. Waaay too late for the Egyptians to say anything about it.
Yeah, basically.I would think the Stargate would be become an international scientific project. Like the LHC or any bigger science endavour nowadays is. And the moment they learn of hostile aliens, everything will be more or less just like in the second halve of SG-1's run. (I assume all the people from the Stargate frenchise exist and will behave more ore less the same.)
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I sell my soul to be able to go through?
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In the SG1 episode 'Disclosure' China almost declares war when they find out the United States has developed and deployed a sub-orbital fighter-bomber. I think it would lead to a war on earth.
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That's a bit much. At the point we're talking about there are no suborbital fighter-bombers and no evil aliens wanting to take over the world, just an amazing scientific and historical discovery.CaptainChewbacca wrote:In the SG1 episode 'Disclosure' China almost declares war when they find out the United States has developed and deployed a sub-orbital fighter-bomber. I think it would lead to a war on earth.
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It would end in a war. The stargate effectively reveals the existence of aliens being on Earth and modern culture paints most aliens as the bad guys. In this universe... that just happens to be true.
Dr Jackson ends up going from being considered a loony to being prime time TV as his theory is proven correct.
Even without the knowledge of whats out there... the discovery of the Stargate would likely push the world into a mass amount of bitching about who has the rights to operate it, oversight and what happens if the thing explodes which would wreck the planet. I wouldnt be surprised if more digging occurs in the hopes of other magic finds are around.
Which likely results in:
Hathor being found + Sarcophgus = Instant shitstorm as people want to live forever
Ancient Weapon platform + Stargate = Unlikely folks would be searching the area for these but it is possible
Ancient Zombie Maker = Same situation as the sarcophgus except this thing is more brutal
Seth = I imagine he would get involved
The artifacts that are on Earth alone are going to cause lots of fighting and problems. A trip to Abydos would end up killing the Stargate Program before it ever started because A) They nuke Abydos or B) Ra causes years of debates about pandora's box i.e Kinsey
Then the planet gets roasted by the Goauld because Jackson hasnt had a trip through the magic mirror to find out an attack is coming.
Dr Jackson ends up going from being considered a loony to being prime time TV as his theory is proven correct.
Even without the knowledge of whats out there... the discovery of the Stargate would likely push the world into a mass amount of bitching about who has the rights to operate it, oversight and what happens if the thing explodes which would wreck the planet. I wouldnt be surprised if more digging occurs in the hopes of other magic finds are around.
Which likely results in:
Hathor being found + Sarcophgus = Instant shitstorm as people want to live forever
Ancient Weapon platform + Stargate = Unlikely folks would be searching the area for these but it is possible
Ancient Zombie Maker = Same situation as the sarcophgus except this thing is more brutal
Seth = I imagine he would get involved
The artifacts that are on Earth alone are going to cause lots of fighting and problems. A trip to Abydos would end up killing the Stargate Program before it ever started because A) They nuke Abydos or B) Ra causes years of debates about pandora's box i.e Kinsey
Then the planet gets roasted by the Goauld because Jackson hasnt had a trip through the magic mirror to find out an attack is coming.
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lol, pessimism.
Firstly, there isn't going to be any war; because atm there's nothing to fight over. It's an interesting scientific discovery. The issue will only come once the whole Go'auld crap comes out. It's likely that before the first mission a treaty will be signed agreeing that no patents will be filed for control over any alien technology that results.
Firstly, there isn't going to be any war; because atm there's nothing to fight over. It's an interesting scientific discovery. The issue will only come once the whole Go'auld crap comes out. It's likely that before the first mission a treaty will be signed agreeing that no patents will be filed for control over any alien technology that results.
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Possibly.
I thought how they handled the sarcophagus was pretty stupid, destroying them more for narrative reasons (no easy resurrection for you!) then practical. Yes, the sarcophagus is extremely addictive. So are many medications in common use, and the sarcophagus is at least easier to control.
Let's see...
The first mission through the gate found humans abducted from Earth millennia before kept in slavery by Ra. They also found a Naquadah mine, and learned that Naquadah can increase the energy released by nuclear reactions a hundredfold. There won't be a shitstorm over the people, the mine, or the pair of gliders?
Also, Ra tried to destroy Earth, he may or may not have if the first team didn't bring a nuke with them specifically so they could destroy the area around the other gate if they had to. Or he may have just come to reconquer Earth, in case we're all screwed.
Next misison (a year later) we discover there isn't one gate, but many thousands. Coincidentally, there are many of Ra's people, who also possess people.
The episode after (there are apparently several off-world missions, plus the episode with Kowalski) they finally start normal operations, they discover medicinal herbs that do not grow anywhere on Earth.
I can go on, but it's pretty clear from the word go that there are vast resources and advanced technologies out there. That much is apparent just form the original Abydos mission.
I thought how they handled the sarcophagus was pretty stupid, destroying them more for narrative reasons (no easy resurrection for you!) then practical. Yes, the sarcophagus is extremely addictive. So are many medications in common use, and the sarcophagus is at least easier to control.
Let's see...
The first mission through the gate found humans abducted from Earth millennia before kept in slavery by Ra. They also found a Naquadah mine, and learned that Naquadah can increase the energy released by nuclear reactions a hundredfold. There won't be a shitstorm over the people, the mine, or the pair of gliders?
Also, Ra tried to destroy Earth, he may or may not have if the first team didn't bring a nuke with them specifically so they could destroy the area around the other gate if they had to. Or he may have just come to reconquer Earth, in case we're all screwed.
Next misison (a year later) we discover there isn't one gate, but many thousands. Coincidentally, there are many of Ra's people, who also possess people.
The episode after (there are apparently several off-world missions, plus the episode with Kowalski) they finally start normal operations, they discover medicinal herbs that do not grow anywhere on Earth.
I can go on, but it's pretty clear from the word go that there are vast resources and advanced technologies out there. That much is apparent just form the original Abydos mission.
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Countries would be fighting over who gets to turn the thing on, your religious nuts will be claiming it is a gateway to hell with demons on the other side. Then you would have fights over who has first dibs on technology, relations with alien species and what countries get a share. SG-1 already made it abundantly clear the US enjoyed the secrecy of the program because it gave them a severe advantage. When the Russians started moving in with the acquired DHD - Davis flat out tells him the US will go to war over it.
We also have the finale of Atlantis showing the Ancient Weapon Chair being 'moved' to Area 51 because it 'violated treaties' or some really vague bullshit that sounds like the US just moved it and told everyone else to go fuck themselves because they have the technology advantage. The only reason the shit didnt hit the fan completely in Full Disclosure is the timely intervention of Thor and the combined Russian / US pitch to shut everyone up.
If we remove the plot devices maintaining the Pro-America bias - The world will not look favourably on the US trying to dominate the Stargate nor the fact they have been sitting on it for decades. The chaos that comes after activating it will only make the situation that much worse and likely result in the Earth getting enslaved / obliterated.
We also have the finale of Atlantis showing the Ancient Weapon Chair being 'moved' to Area 51 because it 'violated treaties' or some really vague bullshit that sounds like the US just moved it and told everyone else to go fuck themselves because they have the technology advantage. The only reason the shit didnt hit the fan completely in Full Disclosure is the timely intervention of Thor and the combined Russian / US pitch to shut everyone up.
If we remove the plot devices maintaining the Pro-America bias - The world will not look favourably on the US trying to dominate the Stargate nor the fact they have been sitting on it for decades. The chaos that comes after activating it will only make the situation that much worse and likely result in the Earth getting enslaved / obliterated.
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Can't remember that episode, which one was it?PREDATOR490 wrote:Countries would be fighting over who gets to turn the thing on, your religious nuts will be claiming it is a gateway to hell with demons on the other side. Then you would have fights over who has first dibs on technology, relations with alien species and what countries get a share. SG-1 already made it abundantly clear the US enjoyed the secrecy of the program because it gave them a severe advantage. When the Russians started moving in with the acquired DHD - Davis flat out tells him the US will go to war over it.
As for the rest - the religious nuts will say what the religious nuts will say. Their opinion is kind of meaningless in the long term, the only people that matter are the Big Five.
People will fight over who gets to turn it on (a second time: in this scenario the wormhole has been established without anyone stepping through and the sequence of addresses logged and recorded); which would be a stickler in negotiations, but not an absolute one. Until anyone finds that it actually does anything possession will be the law, America has it, America owns it. People might be pissed, but nobody will start a fight until a reason comes out to start a fight over it: AKA, once the Go'auld are discovered.
Even then, I doubt a fight will be started. Ra will still die, showing that the Go'auld are not invincible. The existence of FTL starships means burying the gate is monumental stupidity. Rather, an earlier adoption of the international program is much more likely, with alien technology being distributed evenly amongst the Big Five. This would cause its own issues, but all out war would be averted because the only countries capable of doing anything about it would be paid off. America having the only infrastructure capable of conducting a war even close to this scale would still be in charge; but the SGC would look a lot more like the SGA than it did in the series.
Without knowing what it did. And you're ignoring the good will that coming out immediately with the Stargate would generate.We also have the finale of Atlantis showing the Ancient Weapon Chair being 'moved' to Area 51 because it 'violated treaties' or some really vague bullshit that sounds like the US just moved it and told everyone else to go fuck themselves because they have the technology advantage. The only reason the shit didnt hit the fan completely in Full Disclosure is the timely intervention of Thor and the combined Russian / US pitch to shut everyone up.
If we remove the plot devices maintaining the Pro-America bias - The world will not look favourably on the US trying to dominate the Stargate nor the fact they have been sitting on it for decades.
Tbh, I doubt there'd be any chaos. America won't send O'Neill and Daniel through until negotiations have been cleared up; once Ra is dead, then there'd be chaos.The chaos that comes after activating it will only make the situation that much worse and likely result in the Earth getting enslaved / obliterated.
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Wasn't there an episode where it turns out that China had their own stargate? I think it had something to do with water aliens or ice or something, basically someone other than SG1 had a stargate and an accident resulted in it being stuck open which prevented SG1 from being able to use theirs (since no two stargates can be active on a planet at the same time or something). Though I suppose the one they had probably fell from a destroyed ship or otherwise wasn't just buried there for them to find.
Also, regarding the religious nuts: I'm sure if it turns out that ancient aliens actually did show up in Earths history and manipulated events then that would change things. Some saying it couldn't be the case, others saying the aliens are lying, others wanting to revive the religions to worship the technologically advanced alien (for either spiritual, personal, or material reasons).
I mean really, if there is a huge alien empire running around with starships who can bombard planets and they run a religion (no matter how self-serving and evil it is) then it could be preferable to go the the "Ra is great!" church every once in a while in the off chance that he invades and actually spares his followers (or at least have a "Ra is great!" church around and put a bomb shelter in the basement so if he attacks you can survive and if he wins you slap on some cultist robes and start bargaining with your new stomach-worm overlords). Of course having actual cultists running around and trying to help out the aliens would be a bad thing and any religion that turns up is likely to start stirring up conflict with the established religions.
Forgive me for being optimistic but I think if the US goes public with the stargate and they set up an international taskforce then the discovery of aliens would help the different countries band together to deal with possible attacks. Nothing like an outside enemy to get people to work together. Plus, the possibility of colonizing other planets is just too good to pass up. If all the nations can work together and set up colonies on other worlds then the potential is amazing.
Also, regarding the religious nuts: I'm sure if it turns out that ancient aliens actually did show up in Earths history and manipulated events then that would change things. Some saying it couldn't be the case, others saying the aliens are lying, others wanting to revive the religions to worship the technologically advanced alien (for either spiritual, personal, or material reasons).
I mean really, if there is a huge alien empire running around with starships who can bombard planets and they run a religion (no matter how self-serving and evil it is) then it could be preferable to go the the "Ra is great!" church every once in a while in the off chance that he invades and actually spares his followers (or at least have a "Ra is great!" church around and put a bomb shelter in the basement so if he attacks you can survive and if he wins you slap on some cultist robes and start bargaining with your new stomach-worm overlords). Of course having actual cultists running around and trying to help out the aliens would be a bad thing and any religion that turns up is likely to start stirring up conflict with the established religions.
Forgive me for being optimistic but I think if the US goes public with the stargate and they set up an international taskforce then the discovery of aliens would help the different countries band together to deal with possible attacks. Nothing like an outside enemy to get people to work together. Plus, the possibility of colonizing other planets is just too good to pass up. If all the nations can work together and set up colonies on other worlds then the potential is amazing.
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I think part of the problem with the international issues in SG-1 was due to the fact that the US had kept the Stargate hidden for so many years. We were being accused of being selfish and endangering the world. If the Stargate program was revealed right at the beginning, that animosity wouldn't exist as such. It'd be replaced by a combination of greed (wanting hands on alien tech), and self preservation (defending the world against the Goa'uld). I tend to agree it would make the world work together, as nations tend to do in times of major conflicts. There'd still be infighting but overall it might have been better for the Stargate to have been revealed early.
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Disclosure, towards the end of season 6. It was a clip show, with the setup of Maj. Davis explaining the program to the French, British and Chinese ambassadors while Col. Chekov sits in the background and smirks. Kinsey shows up to push his agenda, that the SGC are a bunch of screwups and they should pressure the President to let the program be one by the NID (a "wonderful organization") instead. At the 11th hour, Thor beams in to say hi and that Hammond and the present SGC have the Asgard's full trust and support, and while the continued help of the Asgard isn't exactly contingent on the status quo, it's much preferred.Can't remember that episode, which one was it?
Anyway, the Chinese Ambassador was very upset over the secrecy, F-302s and Prometheus especially. I don't remember a threat of war, but he did threaten full public disclosure of the program. Later we see a different Chinese Ambassador, their IOA representative, in a snit because the US hasn't turned over the 302 designs. There's a throwaway exchange where Mitchell says the US promised to turn over all non-military technology to it's partner nations and Daniel says that qualifier was never in the original agreement.
We see not one, but two civilizations torn apart in religious war over the Stargate. Another nearly had a civil war on finding the thing. Granted, in both cases the Stargate was already an artifact of their religion, the portal to the realm of the Gods, so we have every fundie's faith validated, and then strangers come through to say that not only are the gods real, they're dicks and you really don't want to meet them.As for the rest - the religious nuts will say what the religious nuts will say. Their opinion is kind of meaningless in the long term, the only people that matter are the Big Five.
I could be wrong, but I rather think people will focus more on the earth-shaking revelations then the idea that you could have sat on them for a while.Without knowing what it did. And you're ignoring the good will that coming out immediately with the Stargate would generate.
Russia, Rossum. Russia.Wasn't there an episode where it turns out that China had their own stargate? I think it had something to do with water aliens or ice or something, basically someone other than SG1 had a stargate and an accident resulted in it being stuck open which prevented SG1 from being able to use theirs (since no two stargates can be active on a planet at the same time or something). Though I suppose the one they had probably fell from a destroyed ship or otherwise wasn't just buried there for them to find.
Their Stargate was the one dug up in Egypt in the the 1920's, the one that took Daniel and the team to Abydos. Later (3rd season finale) the team was trapped on Thor's ship which they were deliberately crashing to stop the Replicators aboard from destroying the Earth, so they beamed up the Gate (beaming down being disabled) and escaped. The SGC dug the Beta Gate, found in the Antarctic, out of storage to use, while the Russians recovered the Alpha Gate from the ocean floor.
The Russian SGC was up for all of 2 months before they shut it down. Too much risk and expense for too little tangible reward. The SGC did help wrap up a loose end of a missing Russian SG team, and later purchased the Russian DHD (which the Nazis found after Langford made off with the Gate, and the Russians recovered from Berlin) for Naquadah power generators.
Later still, In the season 6 beginning, the Beta Gate was destroyed and the new arrangement came up. The Russians own the Alpha Gate but the US rents it. The Russians are 'partners' in the SGC, contributing 1/7 it's expenses, plus a permanent Russian SG team, and receiving all technology and mission reports.
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Not to mention a bloody 304 in season 9. The Russian's can't exactly say they had a bad deal out of the Stargate. They got most of the benefits for a fraction of the costs and risks.
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In that episode, Disclosure, Chekov was even boasting to the Chinese Ambassador that Russia sees all the benefits of the Stargate Program for a fraction of the cost. He seemed to imply CHina could get a similar deal in exchange for keeping quiet, and pointed out how much money the US has sunk into the 302 project and it's hyperdrive that still doesn't work, but will turn over the completed design to allies.Eternal_Freedom wrote:Not to mention a bloody 304 in season 9. The Russian's can't exactly say they had a bad deal out of the Stargate. They got most of the benefits for a fraction of the costs and risks.
Of course, starting season 9 the Big Five split the costs between them, and created the IOA to ensure their money was well spent. That worked out real well, didn't it?
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48 Hours - Teal'c gets trapped in the gate and Russia has to use their gate as a sub during which Chekov pushes for a better deal and waves the DHD card. With the DHD the Russians can use their gate to super-cede the SGC one and Davis outright says the US will go to war if they do. The US loved the advantage the Stargate gave them and would go to war to maintain it because they realise just how much of an advantage it is. Daniel bitchslaps Davis with the fact the US is not sticking to the agreement to share technology and apparantly they have issues with Russia selling the technology to the rest of the world or something. Then Daniel uses the plot card to resolve the situation to save Teal'c which neatly destroys the DHD.
It took a lot of luck for events to unfold the way they did which let Earth survive. Point of View mentions that only a few realties avoided being hit by the Goa'uld which makes sense. Unless someone like Daniel happens to go along... the military team has orders to nuke Abydos at the first sign of a threat which may kill Ra but without the Abydos pyramid, Earth wont have the gate address list.
Without that list and the chance encounters with Thor, Tolans, Knox or Teal'c. Earth would be destroyed many times over within the first year alone.
It took a lot of luck for events to unfold the way they did which let Earth survive. Point of View mentions that only a few realties avoided being hit by the Goa'uld which makes sense. Unless someone like Daniel happens to go along... the military team has orders to nuke Abydos at the first sign of a threat which may kill Ra but without the Abydos pyramid, Earth wont have the gate address list.
Without that list and the chance encounters with Thor, Tolans, Knox or Teal'c. Earth would be destroyed many times over within the first year alone.
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I think the Stargate program (or at least the existence of aliens) would have gone public after the first Goauld attack. Realistically there is is no way those two giant Goauld ships could have come so close to Earth without being spotted by multiple observatories and amateur astronomers located in different countries.
Especially when they where blown up the debris would make lower orbits unusable and pieces that randomly fell to Earth on random countries would be analized in different labs located all over the world confirming their extraterrestrial nature. There is just no plausible way how US could have kept the Stargate program secret for long after those events.
Especially when they where blown up the debris would make lower orbits unusable and pieces that randomly fell to Earth on random countries would be analized in different labs located all over the world confirming their extraterrestrial nature. There is just no plausible way how US could have kept the Stargate program secret for long after those events.
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Re: What If: Stargate Made Public
IIRC, Davis' real problem was the idea of giving the Russians weapons-grade Naquadah, figuring they were more likely to make Naquadah bombs than power generators.
I agree that without the impressive list of allies and bits and bobs of technology the SGC found, the Earth would have been toast. Remember during that first attack, they wanted to shit down the program and hide behind a pair of Naquadah-enhanced super-nukes? Nukes that presumably were NOT designed to shoot down enemy spacecraft?
I agree that without the impressive list of allies and bits and bobs of technology the SGC found, the Earth would have been toast. Remember during that first attack, they wanted to shit down the program and hide behind a pair of Naquadah-enhanced super-nukes? Nukes that presumably were NOT designed to shoot down enemy spacecraft?
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Re: What If: Stargate Made Public
There's also something to take into account: from the original post, the stargate is disclosed around 1994 (well just before Roland Emmerich's movie). At that moment, the BRIC didn't really exist (the word was coined in 2001), terrorists were a well-known threat but just not the same way as after 9/11, we were just at the start of the dot.com bubble, and after the disintegration of USSR.
This is just not the same world as the one depicted in the series.
So even if US relinquished the complete control of SG program, they still looked as the dominant power on Earth meaning that they ultimately are the one taking decision or making decision taken, if you prefer. As time goes, we may end with the same balance of riches and power as today as the program proved to be less rewarding than initially predicted (why not a SG bubble) because of the Goa'ulds, Jaffas, Reetos and so on.
Most certainly, you may have state-sponsored firms allowed to do business offworld, and that under the protection of an international task force. Most small countries would like that idea, since the funding of the SG program would be included in a global fund with each participation calculated on economic indicators (meaning the US, EU and Middle East countries will be paying for most of it). But as the SG belongs to all Earth, they will still have an access to it. Heck they could even sell their access rights to whoever they want (like the Russians providing space trips to anyone who could afford it in the recent years).
Just for that reason, we can expect some offworld colonies finally and properly established. The first one would certainly be in Abydos (at least until Apophis small incursion).
So some minor political squabble on who owns and operates the Stargate but nothing more than that. However, 09/11 and aftermath, Iran's continuous bravado against the UN, Arab spring and the current crisis would probably shake the SG world.
The offworld International Task Force may be underfunded while required to be as highly responsive to (external and internal) threat as possible. This means that some colonies would look more like Iraq and Afghanistan than before. Sorry for all of you that liked the Abydossians but they are rapidly going to be assimilated to Arabs-Muslims-Terrorists.
As to the Nox, Asgards and Tollans, it just depends on who is in charge. With the Hebridans however, we'll pretty much find a common ground on commercial relations.
And as to Religion part, it's guaranteed that Seth and Hathor would try to profit from the situation.
Hathor was regarded as a protector of humans (so said Daniel before or after being brainwashed...just can't remember) so she can start her new religion. If she is smart enough, it would be a consultant firm with some religious doctrine (she'll insist that they are not her employees, but just her followers and that they doing it of their own free will). Seth is stupid so he doesn't count.
Other religions would argue if they should or not export their beliefs to humans over there, if Jaffa can be saved, if offworld plants and food comply with religious interdicts or the secular question of human place in the universe and Earth place in human history. Generally some say that religious people are the one closest to the ears of world's leader (something to do with the bulk of their electors), so they may have an impact in SG program but not as much as we may fantasize.
Just look at the financial crisis. Ask any priest of any religion, and he would tell you that the people behind it were reckless and irresponsible, the same people that look perfectly respectable before it. So I tend to believe that religious leaders will try to be as supportive as reasonably acceptable by their scriptures of the changes brought by SG program. As long as the good people benefit from it.
This is just not the same world as the one depicted in the series.
So even if US relinquished the complete control of SG program, they still looked as the dominant power on Earth meaning that they ultimately are the one taking decision or making decision taken, if you prefer. As time goes, we may end with the same balance of riches and power as today as the program proved to be less rewarding than initially predicted (why not a SG bubble) because of the Goa'ulds, Jaffas, Reetos and so on.
Most certainly, you may have state-sponsored firms allowed to do business offworld, and that under the protection of an international task force. Most small countries would like that idea, since the funding of the SG program would be included in a global fund with each participation calculated on economic indicators (meaning the US, EU and Middle East countries will be paying for most of it). But as the SG belongs to all Earth, they will still have an access to it. Heck they could even sell their access rights to whoever they want (like the Russians providing space trips to anyone who could afford it in the recent years).
Just for that reason, we can expect some offworld colonies finally and properly established. The first one would certainly be in Abydos (at least until Apophis small incursion).
So some minor political squabble on who owns and operates the Stargate but nothing more than that. However, 09/11 and aftermath, Iran's continuous bravado against the UN, Arab spring and the current crisis would probably shake the SG world.
The offworld International Task Force may be underfunded while required to be as highly responsive to (external and internal) threat as possible. This means that some colonies would look more like Iraq and Afghanistan than before. Sorry for all of you that liked the Abydossians but they are rapidly going to be assimilated to Arabs-Muslims-Terrorists.
As to the Nox, Asgards and Tollans, it just depends on who is in charge. With the Hebridans however, we'll pretty much find a common ground on commercial relations.
And as to Religion part, it's guaranteed that Seth and Hathor would try to profit from the situation.
Hathor was regarded as a protector of humans (so said Daniel before or after being brainwashed...just can't remember) so she can start her new religion. If she is smart enough, it would be a consultant firm with some religious doctrine (she'll insist that they are not her employees, but just her followers and that they doing it of their own free will). Seth is stupid so he doesn't count.
Other religions would argue if they should or not export their beliefs to humans over there, if Jaffa can be saved, if offworld plants and food comply with religious interdicts or the secular question of human place in the universe and Earth place in human history. Generally some say that religious people are the one closest to the ears of world's leader (something to do with the bulk of their electors), so they may have an impact in SG program but not as much as we may fantasize.
Just look at the financial crisis. Ask any priest of any religion, and he would tell you that the people behind it were reckless and irresponsible, the same people that look perfectly respectable before it. So I tend to believe that religious leaders will try to be as supportive as reasonably acceptable by their scriptures of the changes brought by SG program. As long as the good people benefit from it.
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