Avengers out on DVD

[Crossroads Inc.]

As the movie comes out for us all to watch again, I notice a few things that reminded me of why this was just such an AWESOME movie...

The extras of course are one any of us are going to buy it. The deleted and extended scenes are FULL of wonderful goodies to contemplate and speculate about.
((The gag reel alone is almost worth the price of the DVD

A few things I didn't mention in the original review thread...
Something I LOVED at the end was, well, in a lot of movies and TV shows, the story goes out of its way to cover things up...
In various fantasy shows usually no matter what monsters or magic is seen, it is often "hushed up" and conveniently forgotten about.
Likewise in scifi shows, Stargate and Doctor who especially... We see people forgetting about huge spaceships over head and such and life seems to just go on as normal.
In Avengers, especially at the end, there seems no attempt to cover things up. "Attack by Aliens form outer space" is all but blared across the news channels. People seem to know there are aliens around and the world as a whole gets over it.

Another thing I noticed watching the movie again, and I don't know if this was intentional or not. But throughout the movie they seemed to go out of their way to show Loki as NOT the badass villain he thinks he is. Every time he did something, he seemed ot suck at it.
In the start when he escapes from SHIELD, first he almost falls for Furys ploy of talking till the place explodes. Then when he escapes he is shot at, blown up, and comes VERY close to having a million tons of rock fall on him.
In Germany, facing down the Cap he seemed more then a little annoyed that a "mere mortal" proved so resilient. And then when Stark showed up, I don't think he knew humans even HAD weapons like that.
And then of course escaping from the SHIELD Heli Carrier, he is yet again caught off guard gloating over Coulsen when he is shot in the chest. Again by a weapon he underestimates.
And then of course at the very end, the titular line ''I AM A GOD!!!" and we All know what happened after that.

All in all, with the DVD out, I am sure there will be much to look over analyze and enjoy

[Crazedwraith]

The extras of course are one any of us are going to buy it. The deleted and extended scenes are FULL of wonderful goodies to contemplate and speculate about. The gag reel alone is almost worth the price of the DVD

But Not if you live in the UK

After not enjoying the film so much second time through. I was iffy on buying in on DVD. Now? Definatley not till its in a bargin bin.

Also does it have director's commentary? Joss Whedon's commentaries are usually wonderfully pretentious, especially if he does them alone.


edit: I love the comments on that guardian article. The first one is complaining about the changed title in the UK. I loved that. It worked so well with Hill's line ot Fury immediately before it.

Hill: So what do we do now?
AVENGERS ASSEMBLE

[Scrib]

In Germany, facing down the Cap he seemed more then a little annoyed that a "mere mortal" proved so resilient. And then when Stark showed up, I don't think he knew humans even HAD weapons like that.
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Yeah, but I still liked that he definitely had the upper hand against Rogers. The Asgardians (or the ice demons pretending to be them) seem to have it in general.

Thor was even worse. He's the only person that didn't really reach his limit near the end and I liked that. He's probably more durable than Loki because he's an actual Asgardian so it explains the difference in their stamina. I like that it was never dealt with, he never had a big "exhausted hero rising to fight one last time scene" it was just what it was.

Loki's non-badass status got to the people I watched it with. I personally thought that he was always supposed to be somewhat pathetic- his whole philosophy seems to be a reflection of that. But then again, the guy has spent god knows how long falling through the universe and hanging around with that weird ass alien.

[Tsyroc]

Also does it have director's commentary? Joss Whedon's commentaries are usually wonderfully pretentious, especially if he does them alone.

The DVD does have a commentary by Joss Whedon and he does do it alone.

I haven't had a chance to check out extras on the Blu-Ray yet. Those on the DVD are limited to the commentary and a short documentary on how the movie came together. I thought both extras were pretty good.

[Ted C]

Thor was even worse. He's the only person that didn't really reach his limit near the end and I liked that. He's probably more durable than Loki because he's an actual Asgardian so it explains the difference in their stamina. I like that it was never dealt with, he never had a big "exhausted hero rising to fight one last time scene" it was just what it was.

It's not that Loki is actually a Frost Giant, they're comparable to the average Asgardian in strength and toughness. It's that Thor is wildly stronger and more durable than an average Asgardian. Loki's strength is more in line with Sif, Fandral, Hogun, and Volstagg.

[Crossroads Inc.]

The point remains that Thor was the only one who didn't have a "Hero loosing strength and starting to fall" bit toward the end, because he (aside from perhaps the hulk) is the only one that would NOT loose his strength in a fight like that. Which again is another gold star on the film.

Also have not listened to the commentary yet, don't know it it is Just Joss or someone else with him.

[Tsyroc]

Also have not listened to the commentary yet, don't know it it is Just Joss or someone else with him.

Just Joss.

On the DVD anyway. I don't know if there are more commentaries on the Blu-ray.

[Simon_Jester]

Thor was even worse. He's the only person that didn't really reach his limit near the end and I liked that. He's probably more durable than Loki because he's an actual Asgardian so it explains the difference in their stamina. I like that it was never dealt with, he never had a big "exhausted hero rising to fight one last time scene" it was just what it was.

Thor's also just plain brawnier than Loki- physically, Loki doesn't strike me as the sort to spend a lot of time deliberately honing his physical skills beyond their (admittedly usperhuman) baseline.

Thor probably worked out a lot as an Asgardian prince, even if that meant bench-pressing a locomotive or whatever.

The point remains that Thor was the only one who didn't have a "Hero loosing strength and starting to fall" bit toward the end, because he (aside from perhaps the hulk) is the only one that would NOT loose his strength in a fight like that. Which again is another gold star on the film.

I think this is a good point- kind of a "hey, you're right..." moment.

[Arawn Fenn]

Something I LOVED at the end was, well, in a lot of movies and TV shows, the story goes out of its way to cover things up...
In various fantasy shows usually no matter what monsters or magic is seen, it is often "hushed up" and conveniently forgotten about.
Likewise in scifi shows, Stargate and Doctor who especially... We see people forgetting about huge spaceships over head and such and life seems to just go on as normal.
In Avengers, especially at the end, there seems no attempt to cover things up. "Attack by Aliens form outer space" is all but blared across the news channels. People seem to know there are aliens around and the world as a whole gets over it.

We'll see if they mention anything about it in Iron Man 3. But how is "life seems to just go on as normal" fundamentally different from "the world as a whole gets over it"?

[JME2]

The third Iron Man is going to have to acknowledge at least some of the events of the Battle of Manhattan since Tony's character development continued from the other films.

[Luke Skywalker]

I just watched it again.

You know, I love the action sequences, and the dialogue is very witty and humorous. But I can't shake the feeling that the plot is just stupid as fuck. There are a ridiculous number of plot holes here. For example, why the hell didn't Loki mind control Nick Fury, rather than shooting him and assuming him to be dead? He's the head of SHIELD, for fuck's sake. And a significant quantity of was added in to make the Black Widow, Captain America and Hawkeye even remotely relevant in combat. Why the hell did Starks start a massive fight with Thor, leaving Loki unguarded? Not to mention that the "science" conveys less knowledge than your typical middle schooler, and the "we need old fashioned values, and sustainable energy is dangerous!" trope is annoying as hell.

Furthermore, some of the "conflicts" between the characters feel extremely artificial. I can understand why Rogers wouldn't like a guy like Starks, but he just begins to get in his face out of nowhere. And whenever a character complains that he/she isn't a "soldier" and doesn't want to be there, it's supposed to evoke sympathy but just comes off as whininess incarnate. Yeah, the human race is in mortal peril, and Banner complains about being brought into it.

But I think it says a lot about the delivery, choreography and overall pacing that I still liked the movie.

[EnterpriseSovereign]

The third Iron Man is going to have to acknowledge at least some of the events of the Battle of Manhattan since Tony's character development continued from the other films.

And to explain why War Machine was nowhere to be seen- I get that if he was in there it would make the film too Iron Man-centric, but even so. As for Loki, well he was a puny god after all

When I saw this in the cinema I was lucky enough to see it in 3D, a lot of the dialogue was making everyone laugh, especially the interplay between Iron Man and Captain America

[Scrib]

I can understand why Rogers wouldn't like a guy like Starks, but he just begins to get in his face out of nowhere.

IIRC, Rogers was actually nice to Stark and looking forward to working with him, Stark was just a total asshole that had no intention of ever working as a team and thoroughly enjoyed pissing people off for no reason.

[JME2]

I can understand why Rogers wouldn't like a guy like Starks, but he just begins to get in his face out of nowhere.

IIRC, Rogers was actually nice to Stark and looking forward to working with him, Stark was just a total asshole that had no intention of ever working as a team and thoroughly enjoyed pissing people off for no reason.

Yeah, the deleted scenes from Cap's intro sequence add to that.

[Tsyroc]

On the detail side of things.

Thor vs. Iron Man. Iron Man head butts Thor and Thor head butts him back leaving a visible dent in the Iron Man helmet.

Hulk vs. Thor: During the fight on the hellicarrier Thor hits the Hulk in the face with mjolnir. When we next see Bruce Banner one side of his faces is swollen. It's still slightly swollen when he shows up for the big fight. I missed that in the theater . It helps provide a little more motivation for Hulk sucker punching Thor later on.

[Tsyroc]

The third Iron Man is going to have to acknowledge at least some of the events of the Battle of Manhattan since Tony's character development continued from the other films.

Plus he seems to be in an actual relationship with Pepper. I hope they don't just dump that in the next movie because Tony doesn't stay with anyone for a long time in the comics. His scenes with Pepper in the Avengers were entertaining.


I'm also curious about the Mark VII armor. IIRC it went back to the round arc reactor window. Obviously it had its own power source since it was able to fly and catch up to a falling Tony Stark. That's got me wondering if Tony is using his own "internal" arc reactor in conjunction with one built into the armor or if the armor has significant battery storage. In the older comics the armor was largely charged up by solar batteries so maybe they are introducing the batteries to the movies? The War Machine armor has a built in arc reactor so maybe it could just be that Tony is putting them in all of his armor now and leaving the one in his chest to just keep the shrapnel in his chest from moving.

[Tsyroc]

I just watched it again.

You know, I love the action sequences, and the dialogue is very witty and humorous. But I can't shake the feeling that the plot is just stupid as fuck. There are a ridiculous number of plot holes here. For example, why the hell didn't Loki mind control Nick Fury, rather than shooting him and assuming him to be dead? He's the head of SHIELD, for fuck's sake. And a significant quantity of was added in to make the Black Widow, Captain America and Hawkeye even remotely relevant in combat. Why the hell did Starks start a massive fight with Thor, leaving Loki unguarded? Not to mention that the "science" conveys less knowledge than your typical middle schooler, and the "we need old fashioned values, and sustainable energy is dangerous!" trope is annoying as hell.

Furthermore, some of the "conflicts" between the characters feel extremely artificial. I can understand why Rogers wouldn't like a guy like Starks, but he just begins to get in his face out of nowhere. And whenever a character complains that he/she isn't a "soldier" and doesn't want to be there, it's supposed to evoke sympathy but just comes off as whininess incarnate. Yeah, the human race is in mortal peril, and Banner complains about being brought into it.

But I think it says a lot about the delivery, choreography and overall pacing that I still liked the movie.

In the commentary Joss Whedon even cops to all the bad guys falling over when the "mothership" is destroyed as being lame but they didn't have the movie time left to show the Avengers mopping up the remaining forces.

As for the conflicts between the characters, I thought a lot of that came from Loki, but I guess there was some initial conflict for him to build on. Certainly several of the characters didn't start off on the best footing with each other. Iron Man and Thor fighting. Cap getting saved by a showboating smart talking Stark (who has an ugly building with his name on it in NYC) probably rubbed him the wrong way. Banner is essentially coerced into helping but he manages to handle it pretty well for a while.

They did have to stretch things a bit to keep Hawkeye, Widow and Cap relevant in the fight. The biggest stretch was with the Black Widow, followed by Hawkeye (he sure had a lot of arrows). Cap at least has some super powers and I liked his interaction with the police when he has them take care of the civilians etc... I also wondered why Thor didn't stay with the lightning for longer. It did some serious damage when he first starting hitting them with it from the Chrysler building.

Other than comic convention,(team-ups have to start with a fight between heroes because of a misunderstanding or manipulation) I don't know why Iron Man had to tackle Thor off the bat instead of showing up and demanding Loki be returned. Given the characters' attitudes at the time they probably would have still fought so having them just start off that way saved some screen time for other things. So it was probably another real world thing more than a story thing.

[RogueIce]

The War Machine armor has a built in arc reactor so maybe it could just be that Tony is putting them in all of his armor now and leaving the one in his chest to just keep the shrapnel in his chest from moving.

That seems reasonable. He probably doesn't want a repeat of the first movie where prolonged fight = drained reactor = you're dead now. Giving his armor an independent power source means that even if he has to drain it in a fight, he won't just die then and there. That and I suppose an emergency reserve (assuming his suit can tap into his chest, but given the originals do I don't see why not) though he'd likely use that to disengage rather than risk the power drain. Unless it's a really desperate fight for some reason.

[Simon_Jester]

The War Machine armor has a built in arc reactor so maybe it could just be that Tony is putting them in all of his armor now and leaving the one in his chest to just keep the shrapnel in his chest from moving.

That actually makes a lot of sense. Stark nearly died in the first movie because the only way for him to operate the Iron Man armor was by depleting the power he needed to keep the magnet in his chest running. Making the "keep me alive" power supply separate from the "run my giant walking gun platform" power supply has a lot of advantages. It may let him put a smaller, better shielded arc reactor in his chest, and install stronger chest armor in the suit (thicker breastplate and so on) to give him more protection and cover the reactor better.

Plus, damage to the armor won't endanger his life, which is good.

I just watched it again.

You know, I love the action sequences, and the dialogue is very witty and humorous. But I can't shake the feeling that the plot is just stupid as fuck...

Oh lord not another one of these...

There are a ridiculous number of plot holes here. For example, why the hell didn't Loki mind control Nick Fury, rather than shooting him and assuming him to be dead? He's the head of SHIELD, for fuck's sake.

As a snap decision, killing your enemies rather than taking time to mind-control them when explosives are about to bury you in a zillion tons of rock might be a good plan.

And a significant quantity of was added in to make the Black Widow, Captain America and Hawkeye even remotely relevant in combat.

Relevant at what, fighting a few guys at once? Sure, Thor can trash a zillion enemies at a time and Cap can't take down nearly so many- but that doesn't mean Cap can't fight at ground level and be interesting to watch. Which is the point: his contributions to the film are mostly his tactical skill (which has nothing to do with firepower) and sheer determination (which matters less in the fight).

How is any of this somehow bad? Would you have been happier if the whole film had consisted exclusively of ultrapowered beings trashing things with no ultrapowers? Maybe you would have, in which case I'm probably just as glad we got the movie we have, not the movie you wanted.

Why the hell did Starks start a massive fight with Thor, leaving Loki unguarded?

Probably a bad call on Stark's part- he assumes that he can recapture Loki whenever he needs to, but Thor is a powerful and presumably hostile threat.

Not to mention that the "science" conveys less knowledge than your typical middle schooler...

What are you talking about?

and the "we need old fashioned values, and sustainable energy is dangerous!" trope is annoying as hell.

What are you talking about?

"Sustainable energy" isn't the danger here; the danger comes from the fact that SHIELD is revealed to be using the Cube to power weapons, just like Hydra did back in the day. Meanwhile, Tony Stark's been working on clean energy for two movies (and further progress in this field is revealed in the Avengers movie).

[Luke Skywalker]

As a snap decision, killing your enemies rather than taking time to mind-control them when explosives are about to bury you in a zillion tons of rock might be a good plan.

Then at the very least, shoot him the head. Hawkeye has literal aimbot vision, probably knows that Fury wears body armor, but shoots him once in the chest?

Relevant at what, fighting a few guys at once?

No, relevant to taking on a massed assortment of aliens wielding energy weapons in the downtown of New York City. Apparently, mastering the art of marvel-fu gave the Widow immunity to being mowed down by ranged automatic fire, or blown to bits by a bomb. And Captain America's tiny ass shield apparently has a magnetic charm that causes all enemies to only fire once at a time, conveniently at an angle where Rogers can deflect or dodge it. And the one time he gets hit in the back, he gets back up...without even a scar! Is he superhuman now? Even more ridiculous is the Black Widow taking a hit from the Hulk without as much as a scratch. The same hits were tearing metal stairways like children's toys.

Sure, Thor can trash a zillion enemies at a time and Cap can't take down nearly so many- but that doesn't mean Cap can't fight at ground level and be interesting to watch. Which is the point: his contributions to the film are mostly his tactical skill (which has nothing to do with firepower) and sheer determination (which matters less in the fight).

I have nothing wrong with the latter two. But him standing in the middle of New York City and not getting mowed down within ten seconds is silly as fuck.

How is any of this somehow bad? Would you have been happier if the whole film had consisted exclusively of ultrapowered beings trashing things with no ultrapowers? Maybe you would have, in which case I'm probably just as glad we got the movie we have, not the movie you wanted.

Maybe wanking the non-superhumans was a necessary stupidity. That doesn't mean it wasn't stupid. Although I don't see why a character has to be kicking ass to be relevant or entertaining.

Probably a bad call on Stark's part- he assumes that he can recapture Loki whenever he needs to, but Thor is a powerful and presumably hostile threat.

Assumes that he can recapture Loki whenever he needs to? Yeah, what the fuck was Starks thinking? Which brings me to my complaint that several of the inter-protagonist conflicts are random and contrived, and obviously shoved in for the cool factor, or to give the film the perception of having character development.

What are you talking about?

You can't be serious. A force field made of "pure energy" that is therefore "unbreachable"? The tesseract, which hardly weighs a few dozen kilograms but contains more mass-energy than a continent's worth of antimatter? The ridiculous nonsense on gamma radiation? The contingency plan against the Hulk being shooting him down at terminal velocity, despite the Hulk having fallen from such heights multiple times without as much as a scratch (and Thor having demonstrated to be able to exert more than enough force to lift the damn thing)? Agent Coulsen's uber prototype god killer having the firepower of an RPG?

There's also the nuke's giant fireball in space.

What are you talking about?

"Sustainable energy" isn't the danger here; the danger comes from the fact that SHIELD is revealed to be using the Cube to power weapons, just like Hydra did back in the day. Meanwhile, Tony Stark's been working on clean energy for two movies (and further progress in this field is revealed in the Avengers movie).

Yes, but the message is clear: the cliched "don't bother using that new energy source you discovered, it's bound to backfire and be used by evil beings!". And apparently, Steve Rogers is qualified to judge this, not to mention whine and complain about America losing its good old fashioned traditional values.

My prose is clearly deteriorating into a rant, but I'd also add in the fact that I never really felt any tension in the movie, because Loki was such a frail pussy.

[Majin Gojira]

Then at the very least, shoot him the head. Hawkeye has literal aimbot vision, probably knows that Fury wears body armor, but shoots him once in the chest?

Because like the scientist also under Loki's control, he faught against it in slight ways. That was one of them. The scientist built a flaw in the shielding device, after all. Is it too much of a stretch that Hawkeye altered his aim?

No, relevant to taking on a massed assortment of aliens wielding energy weapons in the downtown of New York City. Apparently, mastering the art of marvel-fu gave the Widow immunity to being mowed down by ranged automatic fire,

Please, they never got better than semi-auto outa those guns.

or blown to bits by a bomb. And Captain America's tiny ass shield apparently has a magnetic charm that causes all enemies to only fire once at a time, conveniently at an angle where Rogers can deflect or dodge it. And the one time he gets hit in the back, he gets back up...without even a scar! Is he superhuman now?

"Peak human potential" technically, but honestly, yeah, he's superhuman. Given the suit he was wearing (body armor and all that), that certainly would have helped.

Even more ridiculous is the Black Widow taking a hit from the Hulk without as much as a scratch. The same hits were tearing metal stairways like children's toys.

In the comic source, she too has a super-enhancing formula in her body (but if that is true in the movie, we don't know). Given she walked for a limp a while after that scene, but then got better for the finale, that may hold true. Hell, she was up and running after having her leg pinned under metal pipes/metal stuff and all that, and was walking and jumping around fine later. Subtle evidence of superhuman ability.

I have nothing wrong with the latter two. But him standing in the middle of New York City and not getting mowed down within ten seconds is silly as fuck.

And narratively, where would that leave them? Movies run primarily on emotional logic (yes, that is a thing). It's why the air tank explodes like a bomb at the end of Jaws. Logically, that just shouldn't happen, but emotionally--satisfying as all hell.

Maybe wanking the non-superhumans was a necessary stupidity. That doesn't mean it wasn't stupid. Although I don't see why a character has to be kicking ass to be relevant or entertaining.

Given it's an action movie, that's a really silly question.

Assumes that he can recapture Loki whenever he needs to? Yeah, what the fuck was Starks thinking?

"HOW DARE AN ARROGANT HERO UNDERESTIMATE A VILLAIN WHO SURRENDERED AS SOON AS HE SHOWED UP!"

You can't be serious. A force field made of "pure energy" that is therefore "unbreachable"? The tesseract, which hardly weighs a few dozen kilograms but contains more mass-energy than a continent's worth of antimatter? The ridiculous nonsense on gamma radiation? The contingency plan against the Hulk being shooting him down at terminal velocity, despite the Hulk having fallen from such heights multiple times without as much as a scratch (and Thor having demonstrated to be able to exert more than enough force to lift the damn thing)? Agent Coulsen's uber prototype god killer having the firepower of an RPG?

There's also the nuke's giant fireball in space.

Next you'll be complaining about where the mass for the Hulk comes from where he transforms and why Stark loses power in space. You're suspension of disbelief must be made of tissue paper. Let's face it, super hero movies, when the dial is turned up enough, reach near loony toons levels of "realistic". That may be a problem for you, but is limited to primarily yourself. It's a subjective complaint.

Yes, but the message is clear: the cliched "don't bother using that new energy source you discovered, it's bound to backfire and be used by evil beings!".

A message which is undermined by the arc reactor tech spreading around int he same film. You're stretching your negative interpretation to fit any and all aspects of it.

And apparently, Steve Rogers is qualified to judge this, not to mention whine and complain about America losing its good old fashioned traditional values.

Given the final decision basically amounted to "No one wants to argue with Thor on it" that's a real stretch. Cap hates it, to be certain, but remember where the final decision laid.

My prose is clearly deteriorating into a rant,

It's also losing logical cohesion and relying on things that are half remembered at best from the way you're outlining them. I honestly suggest you step back for a while before responding and refocus yourself. You're rather emotionally invested it seems in making sure others see as you do when in honestly, a lot of your complaints are rather subjective. You have a right to them, but they are your own and you have to own them.

but I'd also add in the fact that I never really felt any tension in
the movie, because Loki was such a frail pussy.

Pussy must be a scary thing where you come from, because Loki's first appearance in the film has him being shown as bulletproof.

[mr friendly guy]

No, relevant to taking on a massed assortment of aliens wielding energy weapons in the downtown of New York City. Apparently, mastering the art of marvel-fu gave the Widow immunity to being mowed down by ranged automatic fire, or blown to bits by a bomb. And Captain America's tiny ass shield apparently has a magnetic charm that causes all enemies to only fire once at a time, conveniently at an angle where Rogers can deflect or dodge it. And the one time he gets hit in the back, he gets back up...without even a scar! Is he superhuman now? Even more ridiculous is the Black Widow taking a hit from the Hulk without as much as a scratch. The same hits were tearing metal stairways like children's toys.

.

As a general rule, "ordinary" comic book humans are stronger than real world humans. So such characters can be stronger than a real human can be, and the comics can still say they have no super powers. In any event, didn't Cap and the Red Skull dent steel in the scene when they first encountered each other? So Cap could most probably get away with that. I don't remember the Widow taking such a shot from the Hulk, but that would be stretching it.

Next you'll be complaining about where the mass for the Hulk comes from where he transforms and why Stark loses power in space. You're suspension of disbelief must be made of tissue paper. Let's face it, super hero movies, when the dial is turned up enough, reach near loony toons levels of "realistic". That may be a problem for you, but is limited to primarily yourself. It's a subjective complaint.

Well the mass from the Hulk comes from subspace obviously. Well according to the Marvel Handbook they explain away mass gaining powers as gaining from extradimensionally eg Vision or intradimensionally eg Will o Wisp. Yes I remembered reading that.
However what bugged me more about that impenetrable shielding was not so much its "pure energy", but it was designed to be set up as a no limits fallacy. At least say it will be difficult to penetrate, and more likely beyond our capabilities.

[Simon_Jester]

I'm gonna save responding to Luke until his brain grows back.

One note: I can see Iron Man's armor losing power in space, because I'm not at all sure it's vacuum-rated. For example, a lot of electronics depend on airflow for cooling. What happens when there's no air (or water) in their environment?

I'm sure he could design space-rated armor if he wanted, but I can hardly blame him for not foreseeing the need to fly into space on short notice.

[White Haven]

I didn't even interpret that scene as Stark's armour running out of power because it was in space. During the fight, Jarvis had already informed Stark that the armour was almost out of power, after which Stark leapt up into the air, flew out to intercept a missile, grabbed it, forced it into a new course, and flew it into the portal. Stark's armour wasn't powering down because it was in space, it was powering down because it was out of power.

[Alkaloid]

I think Jarvis actually says at one point that what he is planning will likely deplete the reactor.