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I picked up the Ciaphas Cain: Hero of the Imperium! omnibus on the recommendation of a friend. I'm just wondering if anybody knows if there's an official pronunciation for his first name (I've been pronouncing it see-A-fas).
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It's 40k. Everything's official. Personally I go with Sye-a-phas, though some folks like to the biblical route and pronounce it Kai-a-phas. However you pronounce it, you'll soon find that it's a unconventional spelling of E. Blackadder.
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I think the author specified it was Kai-a-phas.
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However you pronounce it, you'll soon find that it's a unconventional spelling of E. Blackadder.
According to the UK translations I read, it's more often pronounced Harry Flashman, VC, although thankfully Ciaphas is a much better person than Flashman. Jurgen is definately pronounced Baldrick though!

I think it's meant to be Kai-aph-as, as per the others, especially as it gets a bit more alliterative with his surname.
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Srelex wrote:I think the author specified it was Kai-a-phas.
Yep, if I recall right there was even a phoentic description of his name in one of the novels.

Besides which, there's added alliterative appeal to Commissar Ciaphas Cain.
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StarSword wrote:I picked up the Ciaphas Cain: Hero of the Imperium! omnibus on the recommendation of a friend. I'm just wondering if anybody knows if there's an official pronunciation for his first name (I've been pronouncing it see-A-fas).

Kai-a-fas. His nickname is "Kai". Also, it's a Stan Lee name this way.
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StarSword wrote:I picked up the Ciaphas Cain: Hero of the Imperium! omnibus on the recommendation of a friend. I'm just wondering if anybody knows if there's an official pronunciation for his first name (I've been pronouncing it see-A-fas).
Did you read the authors introduction to the very book you're reading? I mean I have my copy right here, and on page 10, it says (and I qoute):

"Which brings me to the other question I'm most frequently asked about Cain - other then how do you pronounce his Christian name (For the record, it's kai-a-fass, which, like his surname, is a rather self-indulgent biblical joke)."

Because that does kind answer your question :P
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^D'oh!
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Wait.. Blackadder and Baldrick..

Are Cain and Jurgen a reference to Blackadder that somehow everyone (except me) always knew about? :shock:
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Cykeisme wrote:Wait.. Blackadder and Baldrick..

Are Cain and Jurgen a reference to Blackadder that somehow everyone (except me) always knew about? :shock:
It's been noted quite a few times that Cain was patterned after some other famous fictional British characters.
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What is this thing, can people not enjoy or get a good parody anymore.... (Gone through the first omnibus and read some that have come out since than, than left the omnibus in the work break room, where it's now being read by a waiter who wants MORE)
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The Yosemite Bear wrote:What is this thing, can people not enjoy or get a good parody anymore.... (Gone through the first omnibus and read some that have come out since than, than left the omnibus in the work break room, where it's now being read by a waiter who wants MORE)
I think it's less that and more of Cyke just noticing it now ;).
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Yes, that's precisely what I meant.

Or, put another way, it's not that I can't enjoy a good parody.. it's that I only just started enjoying it :D
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It's also pronounce Kai-a-fass in the audio drama, Dead in the Water.
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