Dr Who New Series Trailer

[Bedlam]

The main thing I have to say is

ICE WARRIOR!!!

[The Romulan Republic]

This has been such a shitty season so far that I'm not really looking forward to the rest of it.

But I am a bit intrigued by the TARDIS control room blowing up, and there's supposed to be another Neil Gaiman episode coming up.

[Crazedwraith]

I so do not give a shit about clara oswald. And I love how they are trying to sell it as 'drama'.

Did I see another angel in there?

[The Romulan Republic]

What's wrong with the angels? They're a more interesting monster than the Cybermen and the Daleks.

Anyway, I don't see one in there.

[Crazedwraith]

It was the robe thing at 22 seconds that made me think that but its clearly something else now I look again.

And the angels are pretty much one trick ponies. Daleks and Cybermen have more potential even if they're not used very well.

[The Imperator]

Personally, I am looking forward to this part of the season. Gaiman is an awesome author, and the Cybermen are back with new designs. I can't wait for that. The rest of the episodes look fairly interesting, so I can't wait for that. The biggest problem with this previous half of S7 is that it felt rushed. Everything felt like they had written one draft and shoved it through; hopefully they figured that out and fixed and smoothed over those glaring problems for this half of S7.

[Eternal_Freedom]

Sontarans as well. Well, one of them at least. And something about the Doctor on a plane. I hope that turns out better than Time-Flight did.

[The Romulan Republic]

It was the robe thing at 22 seconds that made me think that but its clearly something else now I look again.

And the angels are pretty much one trick ponies. Daleks and Cybermen have more potential even if they're not used very well.

The Daleks seem like one trick ponies too. But the writers have come up with new ideas involving them. I don't know why they can't do the same with the angels.

Not that I consider Moffat a capable writer. I really wish the BBC would fire him or that he'd get bored with Doctor Who and quit.

[SylasGaunt]

It was the robe thing at 22 seconds that made me think that but its clearly something else now I look again.

It looks kinda like the Sycorax from 'The Christmas Invasion'.

[The Imperator]

It was the robe thing at 22 seconds that made me think that but its clearly something else now I look again.

It looks kinda like the Sycorax from 'The Christmas Invasion'.

That's what I thought.

[mr friendly guy]

Those monsters without eyes look interesting. They remind me of the Mydrall from the Wheel of Time series.

[CaptainChewbacca]

It was the robe thing at 22 seconds that made me think that but its clearly something else now I look again.

And the angels are pretty much one trick ponies. Daleks and Cybermen have more potential even if they're not used very well.

The thing with the robe looked like a Sycorax to me.

[FaxModem1]

Those monsters without eyes look interesting. They remind me of the Mydrall from the Wheel of Time series.

I was more thinking The Trickster from the The Trickster Brigade.

[Hillary]

Not that I consider Moffat a capable writer. I really wish the BBC would fire him or that he'd get bored with Doctor Who and quit.

Empty Child/The Doctor Dances, Girl in the Fireplace, Blink. Of course he's a capable writer. You can question whether he should be heading up the series, but he's written some of the very best NuWho episodes.

[Surlethe]

I'm really excited about Clara Oswald. If she continues being brilliant, witty, and all around the Doctor's equal, she might well pass Donna Noble as my favorite companion. Also looking forward to Neil Gaiman's writing -- I love everything he's written, and The Doctor's Wife is among my favorite 11th Doctor episodes.

I'm hoping that they'll finally explain what went screwy with the TARDIS at the end of the 5th season. We've seen the Silence, we've seen where River Song came from, we understand their agenda and we've seen it play out - but we still don't know why the blue box blew.

[The Romulan Republic]

Not that I consider Moffat a capable writer. I really wish the BBC would fire him or that he'd get bored with Doctor Who and quit.

Empty Child/The Doctor Dances, Girl in the Fireplace, Blink. Of course he's a capable writer. You can question whether he should be heading up the series, but he's written some of the very best NuWho episodes.

He wrote those years ago.

I liked his writing too up until around the end of season five. Which makes the shit since then even more shocking and sad.

[The Imperator]

He wrote those years ago.

I liked his writing too up until around the end of season five. Which makes the shit since then even more shocking and sad.

I think it is more that now he has to balance the whole series, as opposed to writing an episode here and there. He really should go back to just writing a couple episodes, and not running the series.

[The Romulan Republic]

Perhaps. But I doubt it, because his first season as head writer was really good, or at least I thought so when I saw it.

But whatever the reason, the quality of his work has been terrible lately.

[Hillary]

Perhaps. But I doubt it, because his first season as head writer was really good, or at least I thought so when I saw it.

But whatever the reason, the quality of his work has been terrible lately.

Fair enough - that wasn't clear from your previous post. I would agree with you that his more recent stuff has not been as good, although I don't think it has fallen as spectacularly as you suggest.

I agree with the Imperator that it is because he is in overall charge of the series. To be honest, I'm not entirely sure why they need the head honcho to do so much of the writing.

[Stark]

It's called 'nepotism' and 'bad management'. These concepts are closely related.

[DaveJB]

To be honest, I'm not entirely sure why they need the head honcho to do so much of the writing.

Aside from the Christmas specials, Moffat is actually writing fewer episodes (about four per season) than he did in his initial season (where he wrote six). I get the feeling that with the episodes from last year, Moffat was just treading water until Amy and Rory left, and saving his efforts for when Clara was introduced, together with the 50th anniversary story/stories.

Of course, if you look at the classic series, only three script editors wrote for the show while in the script editor's position - Gerry Davis (who co-wrote with Kit Pedler), Robert Holmes (who was a special kind of awesome) and Eric Saward (whose output was generally pretty poor outside of Revelation of the Daleks), so there probably is an argument that the showrunner should only write one or two episodes per season. Heck, doubly so when you've got a bunch of anniversary stuff to plan.

[Hillary]

To be honest, I'm not entirely sure why they need the head honcho to do so much of the writing.

Aside from the Christmas specials, Moffat is actually writing fewer episodes (about four per season) than he did in his initial season (where he wrote six). I get the feeling that with the episodes from last year, Moffat was just treading water until Amy and Rory left, and saving his efforts for when Clara was introduced, together with the 50th anniversary story/stories.

Of course, if you look at the classic series, only three script editors wrote for the show while in the script editor's position - Gerry Davis (who co-wrote with Kit Pedler), Robert Holmes (who was a special kind of awesome) and Eric Saward (whose output was generally pretty poor outside of Revelation of the Daleks), so there probably is an argument that the showrunner should only write one or two episodes per season. Heck, doubly so when you've got a bunch of anniversary stuff to plan.

I would tend to agree with that - the conflict of interest alone is enough to suggest it's a bad idea. Who is there to tell the script editor that his own script sucks? As you say, the notable exception to the was Robert Holmes. Didn't Douglas Adams write for the show whilst doing the job? I have to say, I never really liked his Who stuff - he was essentially writing a Dirk Gently story with the one set in Paris.

[DaveJB]

I would tend to agree with that - the conflict of interest alone is enough to suggest it's a bad idea. Who is there to tell the script editor that his own script sucks?

Notionally, that's the job of the co-executive producer, which was Julie Gardner back in RTD's era, Piers Wenger in Series 5 & 6, and Caroline Skinner in Series 7 (someone else is supposedly taking over the role for the 50th anniversary mini-season). I know Gardner definitely used to get RTD to make some changes to his scripts - in particular, he wanted to have flashbacks to classic series stories in Love & Monsters, but she persuaded him to only reference NuWho stories so as not to befuddle the casual audiences.

As you say, the notable exception to the was Robert Holmes. Didn't Douglas Adams write for the show whilst doing the job? I have to say, I never really liked his Who stuff - he was essentially writing a Dirk Gently story with the one set in Paris.

He sorta wrote City of Death... but he did it along with the then-producer, Graham Williams, and they were both working from an earlier draft by David Fisher (which was written under the assumption they wouldn't actually film anything in Paris). Shada as well, actually, though that's not really very useful for comparative purposes since it was never finished. Generally speaking, when classic series script editors did write for the show (aside from the three previously mentioned ones) it was because some other script(s) had fallen through and they needed urgently needed something to shoot.

I don't think there's fundamentally any problem with the showrunner writing episodes, though it'd be better if they focused on writing just one or two really good episodes, rather than a whole bunch of average ones.

[The Romulan Republic]

To be honest, I'm not entirely sure why they need the head honcho to do so much of the writing.

Aside from the Christmas specials, Moffat is actually writing fewer episodes (about four per season) than he did in his initial season (where he wrote six). I get the feeling that with the episodes from last year, Moffat was just treading water until Amy and Rory left, and saving his efforts for when Clara was introduced, together with the 50th anniversary story/stories.

Of course, if you look at the classic series, only three script editors wrote for the show while in the script editor's position - Gerry Davis (who co-wrote with Kit Pedler), Robert Holmes (who was a special kind of awesome) and Eric Saward (whose output was generally pretty poor outside of Revelation of the Daleks), so there probably is an argument that the showrunner should only write one or two episodes per season. Heck, doubly so when you've got a bunch of anniversary stuff to plan.

You made a mistake with the quotes.

Anyway, Moffat might be overworked, especially since he's also got Sherlock to work on. But he wrote a lot of season five and I thought it was quite good.

Perhaps you're right about him not putting much effort into the first part of the season, but if so, that's terribly unprofessional and proves that he should no longer be in charge.

[Havok]

Bout fucking time. I hate these breaks in the seasons.