Interdimensional diplomat (RAR)

[mr friendly guy]

Based on my love of crossover fan fiction. The scenario

Due to the intervention of a Crossover Obsessed "omnipotent" being you have the ability to transverse various sci fi universes the same way Access can travel between Marvel and DC universes. Your limitations would be only to sci fi universes which in canon might be difficult to crossover to. The ones that stick up in my mind are E-space (from Doctor Who) and Negation space (Crossgen comics). For all intents and purposes, the canon of various sci fi franchises are real in their respective universes, even if they are just movies, novels in ours.

You also have the ability to create a dimensional gate which is large enough to fit a space station around the size of Deep Space Nine through to another universe with you, and can hold it open for an hour. Afterwards you need to rest at least another minute for each minute you held it open for. You are accurate to within 10 metres, so you can say transport yourself from Paris in Star Trek Earth and end up in the same building in Babylon 5 Earth. The gate doesn't have to be created near you. You can create up to 100 000 km away from you, so you can create it above the Earth and have a starship past through.

You also gain the following abilities - Jedi power equivalent to Yoda, but untrained. The Doctor's lifespan and regeneration capability and learning ability. BTW - you also have the Doctor's uncanny ability to not be shot on sight and at least the opportunity to explain who you are. You keep your own intelligence and have all the knowledge about various sci fi franchises including "spoilers."

Equipment - the Clothes on your back and a universal translator.

This omnipotent being tells you there is a way to send you back to your universe, which is one the universes you cannot access. You must complete some tasks for him. So without further ado, here is the task.

You are to transverse to various sci fi universes and make contact with the human polities. For the purpose of this task, multispecies polities with humans as a member with rights also count, eg the United Federation of Planets. For some strange reason when you transverse between universes, you always end up in a time of great turmoil. So for example if you travel to the Star Trek universe, you will end up either say after the defeat at Wolf 359 or during the Dominion war (you get to choose the period).

You are to try and convince them engage in trade, specifically tech sharing with another human base polity in another sci fi universe. The limitations are

1. This tech is supposed to benefit both human polities. So no jumping into an advance sci fi universe and then giving tech to less advanced ones, UNLESS the less advance universe can give some tech which is useful to the more advance polity.

2. The purpose of the tech transfer cannot be just for amusement, eg like how human traded cultural goods to the Centauri and eventually got their hands on hyperspace technology. So no giving advance military tech from a more advanced polity to a less advance one, in exchange for the less advance one giving an antique to the more advance one and saying its ok because they like alien artifacts, like the Centauri / human example.

The tech must be to help both sides overcome its turmoil. For example a fan fiction I read was a Stargate / Robotech crossover. The SG side gave the humans from Robotech much more advanced weapons, while the Robotech side used the Flower of Life to aid the Asgard allies by reversing their cloning problems.

3. The fact that one side would eventually overcome its turmoil is irrelevant. The tech transfer is supposed to bring this about quicker. So for example the UFP will eventually defeat the Dominion, but you must try to supply tech which will allow them to do it faster and with less loss of life.

You must benefit as many polities with these tech exchanges. The being doesn't tell you how many to do before he/she/it transports you back to your home. However its hinted the more you do, the more likely you will get back home.


For the purpose of discussion, stick to "sci fi" universes. This of course is hard to classify where you have worlds which mix the two genres, so generally things which would be posted in sci fi here even if there is a fantasy element would fit, eg Star Wars, 40 K etc. While worlds such as WoT and Shadowrun, Rifts Megaverse I would put in fantasy.

[Ahriman238]

So are we restricted to alternate, antimatter and mirror universe or not?

If not, time to drop in on the Culture, who will always have time for a new curiosity even during the height of the Culture-Idirian War, or the Excession. There needs are most likely going to be driven by curiosity or boredom, but I can think of a few sci-fi universes they could benefit from. If possible, become a Culture citizen and an agent of Contact so I can undertake the grandest, most impossible mission of my extended life: bringing the Imperium of Man within the loving embrace of the Culture, with post-scarcity and amused tolerance of all aliens and their wacky ways.

To the Culture, I will serve as a go-between for them and the Arcaihilects of Orion's Arm. I will give them magmatter, computronium and bits and bobs of metric technology. Then for shits and giggles I'll see what the Culture thinks of all the various human clades from that universe. Then, let's see, eezo, sohon, and the Kymellian (Marvel comics aliens) ability to manufacture an immortal soul for AIs. And the Citadel, Indowy (or humans) and Kymellians could all benefit vastly from Culture tech. Though the Kymellians never play host to more than eight or nine humans at a time, that's usually when their society gets turned on it's ear. May be a stretch under the rules.

Drop by the Honor and Gateverses as early in the timeline as I can, and trade technical support and intelligence about future crises now in exchange for shared information when they tech up later. See if Manticore will trade their unusual drive technology and information on multiple hyperspace bands for Culture sensors and computer support for their ECM and point-defense.

So help me, I will put Tony Stark (and likely several versions of him) Mike O'Neal, John Henry Irons, Julio Portena an open-minded Techpriest or Techmarine, Tau Earth Caste, the MJOLNIR design-team, the Chief Engineer from every Star Trek show (except Torres, for obvious reasons) the Triax power armor R&D division and some techno-wizards in a room together, give them examples of every power armored system, useful component and exotic material I can beg, borrow or steal, just to see what they come up. Or act as a go-between for a far longer process. Naturally everyone gets to bring a few suits home, hope to snag one for personal use, but only because I'm going to a few very dangerous places.

I offer the tech-priests of Mars (ideally Heresy-era) a dozen or so Stargates in exchange for one day of unrestricted access to their technical files and STC data, which I will naturally use to copy everything with a Culture AI and leave myself a backdoor for future use. The technical data will naturally be turned over to Stargate Command to chew over at their leisure.

I approach Starfleet initially from the perspective of setting up a shared multiversal medical databank, exchanging files on diseases like Nurgle's Rot and treatments, and working my way to their medical technology. Then I may branch out and try to arrange a trade of Gateverse hyperdrive for some of their resources and technology, the Prime Directive might be an obstacle, but previous history has shown the Directive can be... flexible in the face of a compelling interest to Starfleet, and with the Dominion destroying one fleet after another, I doubt they'll fight too hard.

I should really do something nice for the USNC for lending me their power armor experts. I know, I'll set up a trading conduit for them to get eezo! We'll start by lining the MAC barrels with the stuff, then get creative.

Babylon 5, the station if not the general setting, could really use some shields and upgraded point-defense, maybe Honorverse laser clusters. For that matter, there's a setting that could really use Honorverse Excalibur missiles. And artificial gravity. I can't think what they could offer the Honorverse though, perhaps effective non-impeller drives, alternate hyperspace tech, DNA samples from telepaths. Will definitely get the SGC and Starfleet Medical to look over the Drakh plague.

Now that I think of it, if I really wanted to help the Manticorans curbstomp their enemies (even more than before, anyways) I'd set up a tech transfer between them and the Systems Commonwealth during it's fall. After a complicated series of pay-offs to various people I'd return a few minutes subjective later with late Honor and Gateverse hardware to try and help them out. Heh, I can't stop giggling when I think what Horrible Hemphill will do when given antimatter. To say nothing of drives significantly slower than the norm, but with less than a minute to move between full-throttle and all-stop and no wedge. Or energy weapons effective at over a million klicks, point-defense with similar range, MDMs are basically there as far as Andromeda missile ranges, maybe better at them with Apollo. Which reminds me, I can at least point Hemphill in the right direction and prune a couple of unproductive lines of research.

That should be enough turning universes upside down for now, I'll be back when I have better ideas.

[mr friendly guy]

Mirror and alternate universes are fine. I will skip the antimatter universes for now.

Ahriman was certainly more ambitious than myself. My original thoughts were

1. Honor Harrington during the conflict with Haven (prior to the assault on Manticore) and Star Trek during the Dominion war.

UFP FTL communications and sensors should allow Manticore to spy on Haven and send word before the Surprise attack on Manticore. They could also give knowledge to Manticore about cloaks and let the Manties do it all without violating the pesky Treaty of Algeron, for more spying ability.

In return the Manties give fed superior military tech which out ranges standard weapons used in the Trek verse for some Jem'hadar stomping.


2. UFP and Bablyon 5 around the time post Drakh assault of earth.

Come on. You know the EMH is going to cure the Drakh plague by lunchtime.

Can you imagine a Fed ship looking like the Whitestar? Coupled that with the exotic material the Excalibur is made off and jump gates for the win. I would also set this up during the Borg assault of Wolf 359. Can you say opening a jump gate inside a Borg cube from hyperspace? An attack which the Borg have never seen before and won't have time to adapt to (if they even can). Yeah, sure we can.

Or I could use Voyager where Seven of Nine cures the Drakh Plague with Borg nano probes. In return as well as weapons tech, Voyager brings back hyperspace tech. Can you say going into warp in hyperspace for extra speed to get home?

3. Trade again with the new Systems Commonwealth post resurrection by Captain hunt, prior the attack by the Drago Kazov pride. Andromeda slipstream, missiles (combine with Honor verse missiles) and this will sort of help them win against the Nietscheans. In return they of course get FTL communications which the UFP have plenty and the Honorverse is starting to develop.

Now I just need to figure a way to add in the Gateverse, 40 K and Star Wars.

[Ahriman238]

Well, you did say we could only visit universes that are canonically hard to cross over into.

And I'm just getting warmed up, wait til I figure out something that nBSG has that oBSG needs or can use, maybe their FTL, then we can get them some energy weapons and maybe the snazzy uniforms.

[Borgholio]

Well I think that crossing between Stargate around the time of the battle of the supergate and Star Trek around the time of the Dominion war would be a good one. SG-1 would be able to make use of Federation weapons tech, while the Asgard hyperdrive will let the Feds fly circles around the Dominion.

[Ahriman238]

Can't believe I forgot Mutineer's Moon and the Fifth Imperium. What do you suppose Colin would give me for FTL hundreds of times faster than what he's got, that doesn't take up thousands of miles of space? I'd think the least he could offer is some basic enhancement for some of my friends, convincing them might be harder, but I'm envisioning SG-1 and the TNG living to be 600 or so. That should go a long way towards taking off some of the loneliness in living as long as the Doctor.

Do you think it would be possible to go to the end of the Yuuzhan Vong War and buy all their intelligence, tactics and technologies for fighting the Vong for the low, low price of going back and giving it to them for free in the beginning? They sweat and bled for it the first time around, so I don't think it should be too paradoxical, since we're changing people's history anyways.

Back to 40K, I wonder how many civilizations I could save in the Great Crusade era by evacuating some of their number to alternate realities in exchange for some of their technical knowledge.

For that matter, considering some of the resources at my back, how hard do you think it would be to create a fake Inquisitor's rosarius that could pass muster? A man with an 'I' mark could save a lot of lives, topple tyrannies and maybe institute a few real changes, provided he wasn't hunted across the galaxy for his temerity. But the Inquisiton's agents are so scattered and secretive, the risk seems relatively low, especially if I could convince them with a few codes and a good fake rosarius.

Might drop by Ultramar first, give some heads up about the Tyranids and get a little goodwill.

Oh, I suppose if I have Jedi powers I might want to l0ok into training. I'd rather not deal with the old-school Jedi and the NR years are so fraught with turmoil. Heck, maybe go to Dagobah first, strut some stuff and ask Yoda for help after he's mellowed out. Train along Luke for a bit, then drop by periodically to show a commitment to lifetime learning.

[Eternal_Freedom]

Ok, first of all, set up trade links between Stargate and Pre-Long Night Systems Commonwealth. Trading Stargate's subspace commas (better than Star Treks) for Commonwealth AI designs. Possibly offer Asgard-designed hyperdrives (more accurate and more reliable than slipstream, even if slower) in exchange fornifty stuff like AP cannons (effective point defence and anti-ship weapons up to 300,000 km away) and AP reactors if they are better than naquada power plants.

Then, take the AI designs to the UNSC in exchange for the MJOLNIR designs. Give them AP cannons as well because fuck you Covenant.

Then, turn up on Earth circa M30, while the Emperor is still working on the Primarchs. Warn him about the whole Chaos stealing and Heresy part, find out what happenned to the missing ones, and offer him AI designs, hyperdrives (cross the galaxy in days, no need for Gellar fields or the Warp!) in excahge for Astartes power armour, artificer armour and terminator armour designs. I'll think of the rest later, but I tihnk i've just saved a few universes.

PS. Leave the Emperor a sarcophagus from SG-1 for if he needs to bring back the Primarches or even himself. No need for him to be encased int he Golden Throne for ever.

[Borgholio]

Leave the Emperor a sarcophagus from SG-1

Bad idea. Use it too much and it corrupts you and makes you evil. The last thing you'd want is the Emperor with the morals of a Goa'uld.

[Eternal_Freedom]

If I don't manage to stop the Horus Heresy by warning the Emperor and getting him to warn his kids about Chaos, he'll only need to use it once, after he defeats Horus, and boom, Emperor still kicking, still pushing the Imperial Truth, no need to slide into the grimdark.

Alternatively, find a DW world with nanogenes that's willing to trade (perhaps for MJOLNIR suits or AI designs) and give those to the Emperor. Perhaps have them built-in to power armour for even more absurdly-tough Marines and Primarchs.

[Simon_Jester]

Remind me again why the power armor from Halo is that special? Iconic, yes, but what's so great about it?

One trick I'd bear in mind is to access the worlds of older science fiction as a starting point for trade. I sometimes mention Doc Smith's Lensman novels; the protagonists there have beam weapons and defenses comparable or superior to most SF settings (megaton/gigaton-range beam weapons and shielding against same), massive industrial capability (million-ship fleets), and fairly impressive FTL drives (ten days to cross the galaxy, probably no more than several weeks to travel between galaxies) which double as an effective defense against basically any weapon that doesn't come with a side-order of "and grapple them with a tractor beam."

On the other hand, their idea of a "computer" sometimes seems to come fresh out of the 1950s. So it won't be hard to find something to trade with them.

[Eternal_Freedom]

It's not so much that the MJOLNIR suit is particularly amazing by power armour standards, its more so that I have something else to trade. Even if the people I want to trade with already have power armour, the MJOLNIR might have some things they haven't thought of.

Hmmm, I might try to access the universe with the Mentor Daleks in them. Dalek technology without the extreme xenophobia. Not sure what I could offer them though, the advanced AI designs might be of use to them, as might the faster hyperdrives from Stargate.

[Batman]

I don't think I'd consider DC and Marvel 'SciFi' given the OP
And what about incompatible laws of physics? Giving B5 hyperdrive to Manticore in exchange for artificial gravity and sidewalls sounds real nifty until either side has people looking cross pointing guns at me (I'm immune to being immediately shot, nothing more) while somebody explains to me in great detail how the new incredibly useful technology I gave them doesn't fucking work.
Also, does the trade have to be bilateral (I give something useful from Trek to Wars, I have to give something useful from Wars to Trek) or can I cross-trade B5 to Wars to Trek to Stargate to Andromeda to 40K to Honorverse to B5 as long as everybody benefits from it?

[Eternal_Freedom]

I tihnk this goes under the category of vs debates, where both parties technology is assumed to work as advertised/seen. As for trade being bilateral, I fgured as long as you give them something in return it's fine, so going (in my case) Stargate/Andromeda/Halo/Doctor Who/40K should be fine, everyone benefits.

Plus, the OP did say you don't have to trade technology, rather you can trade knowledge of future crises. So you could, say, warn the New Republic about the pending Yuuzhan Vong invasion, or warn the federation about the Dominon's takeover of Cardassia, or tell the Emperor about the Horus Heresy, and so on.

[Batman]

I know I can trade information, I just want the incompatible physics thing out of the way -one way or the other. If it is 'Yup, every tech works in every universe' then largely lower tech universes (B5 vs Honorverse, for example) might have something to offer (B5 hyperdrive is considerably faster and doesn't have to worry about hyper limits) to ones that are at first glance more advanced on the technology side.

Also, what does 'universes that would in canon be hard to crossover into ' mean?

[Eternal_Freedom]

The example given was E-Space in Doctor Who. I think this means "universes within a franchise that are considered, in-setting, to be difficult or impossible to access." So, no E-Space, probably no Mirror Universe, no Marvel Unlimited (or was it Infinities? can't remember), probably no Mentor Dalek universe (damn).

In other words, you can jump to the "prime" universe of a given setting, but travel to other universes within that setting.

[Borgholio]

In other words, you can jump to the "prime" universe of a given setting, but travel to other universes within that setting.

Well some sci-fi is specifically built around the idea of easy travel to parallel universes. Remember that old gem, Sliders?

Also shows like Star Trek seem to have a time travel -> alternate timeline -> parallel universe story every third episode or so. It's definitely routine as far as I'd be concerned...

[mr friendly guy]

Also, does the trade have to be bilateral (I give something useful from Trek to Wars, I have to give something useful from Wars to Trek) or can I cross-trade B5 to Wars to Trek to Stargate to Andromeda to 40K to Honorverse to B5 as long as everybody benefits from it?

Doesn't have to be bilateral. However if you are thinking A trades with B who also trades with C type scenarios; you only end up with 3 beneficiaries. If you do A trades with B, and with C you simply find another polity to trade with then you can get four beneficiaries. They more you get, the more likely you are allowed back home.

I know I can trade information, I just want the incompatible physics thing out of the way -one way or the other. If it is 'Yup, every tech works in every universe' then largely lower tech universes (B5 vs Honorverse, for example) might have something to offer (B5 hyperdrive is considerably faster and doesn't have to worry about hyper limits) to ones that are at first glance more advanced on the technology side.

Also, what does 'universes that would in canon be hard to crossover into ' mean?

1. The OP was inspired by my love of crossover fiction where the two sides team up. Of course the incompatible physics thing is out the way just like versus debates, unless the universe specifically has "weird physics". For example there are sci fi universes where physics is different between sectors of the universe - eg Negation from CG comics and a series whose name eludes me from Margaret Weiss and Tracy Hickman. Or universes where the physics are deliberately made different from our own as a plot point - again the Negation universe where fire burns black and it was a plot point of different physics so that super powered characters had to relearn their powers, the Negation must adjust their tech to work in our universe etc.

Universes which have different tech are otherwise assumed to have the same laws of physics, it just hasn't been discovered by one side.

2. The universes that would be hard to crossover are those who in their setting are deliberately made so that its hard to access. So universes where there is no mention of it either way don't count. The example I gave is E-space from Doctor Who setting. Even the freaking Time Lords can't access it easily, so I will leave it alone. This was actually a plot point, as when the great Vampires invaded the Time Lords didn't know where they came from nor knew how to find the Great Vampire because he had fled into E-space, where the TL could not follow.

I made the rule mainly because a) these universes are pretty obscure anyway and b) to show that there are some universes my new found power can't get to, as an explanation why I have to act as a diplomat to get home instead of simply transporting myself home and c) So we don't have people travelling into pocket universes to free people who are imprisoned there eg Xeeleeverse humans.

I tihnk this goes under the category of vs debates, where both parties technology is assumed to work as advertised/seen. As for trade being bilateral, I fgured as long as you give them something in return it's fine, so going (in my case) Stargate/Andromeda/Halo/Doctor Who/40K should be fine, everyone benefits.

Plus, the OP did say you don't have to trade technology, rather you can trade knowledge of future crises. So you could, say, warn the New Republic about the pending Yuuzhan Vong invasion, or warn the federation about the Dominon's takeover of Cardassia, or tell the Emperor about the Horus Heresy, and so on.

Well I was thinking technology or the science to build said technology. There is nothing forbidden in telling them about future crises, as long as technology is still traded and both sides benefit from the technology. Maybe telling them about future crises just sweetens the deal. The idea is that one universe has tech the other universe wants / needs to overcome its problem. The "both sides must benefit" caveat is to stop people simply grabbing stuff from the Culture and giving it all lower tech universes. The lower tech universe also must have something the Culture wants / needs to help overcome its crisis.

I think Simon Jester had the right idea with targeting the Lensmen series or older sci fi in general.

However since I rigged the OP such that you appear already in a crisis eg war, about to be invaded etc they most probably want the tech to deal with the current crisis rather than one down the road years later.

The example given was E-Space in Doctor Who. I think this means "universes within a franchise that are considered, in-setting, to be difficult or impossible to access." So, no E-Space, probably no Mirror Universe, no Marvel Unlimited (or was it Infinities? can't remember), probably no Mentor Dalek universe (damn).

In other words, you can jump to the "prime" universe of a given setting, but travel to other universes within that setting.

Depends on how easy it is to access. Generally the Time Lords could access alternate universes with the exception of E-space. The Mentor Dalek universe might count as difficult to access, although its debatable whether its simply because the Daleks didn't have much in the way of travel to alternate universes vs the Time Lords. However I would have thought the "must be trade between human polities" automatically rule out the Mentor Daleks anyway.

Mirror universes should be fine, since the Mirror verse humans usually visit the prime verse UFP in Star Trek DS9 anyway. So it wouldn't be hard to travel. I don't know enough about Marvel Unlimited. Is that universe deliberately isolated due to plot point, eg by decree of a cosmic being or authorial fiat. Otherwise its accessible, but generally the "keep it sci fi rather than fantasy" caveat would tend to prevent you trading.

In other words, you can jump to the "prime" universe of a given setting, but travel to other universes within that setting.

Well some sci-fi is specifically built around the idea of easy travel to parallel universes. Remember that old gem, Sliders?

Also shows like Star Trek seem to have a time travel -> alternate timeline -> parallel universe story every third episode or so. It's definitely routine as far as I'd be concerned...

Mirror universes are allowed since its pretty routine in Trek, Sliders etc.

The main reason I stated to forbid travel to "hard to access" universes are listed above. Again these ones are by nature pretty obscure so I don't think they will make a big difference, unless you plan to free Xeeleeverse humans imprisoned in a pocket universe by the Xeelee.

[Agent Sorchus]

I have a couple of issues with this RAR, and unfortunately an easy out to the situation. Lets start with my issues and start small.

You also have the ability to create a dimensional gate which is large enough to fit a space station around the size of Deep Space Nine through to another universe with you, and can hold it open for an hour.

Though the size of DS9 is very much not regular throughout the series. So not a good reference unlike it's set up to be. Also skipping (cause I'm still on the smaller issues)

For the purpose of discussion, stick to "sci fi" universes. This of course is hard to classify where you have worlds which mix the two genres, so generally things which would be posted in sci fi here even if there is a fantasy element would fit, eg Star Wars, 40 K etc. While worlds such as WoT and Shadowrun, Rifts Megaverse I would put in fantasy.

Is this here simply to keep the idea of tech and magic as separate and more difficult to trade across worlds, but I'm not sure. Also easily arguable for older sci-fi and newer fantasy. Also Anime.

You must complete some tasks for him. ...

You are to transverse to various sci fi universes and make contact with the human polities. For the purpose of this task, multispecies polities with humans as a member with rights also count, eg the United Federation of Planets. For some strange reason when you transverse between universes, you always end up in a time of great turmoil. So for example if you travel to the Star Trek universe, you will end up either say after the defeat at Wolf 359 or during the Dominion war (you get to choose the period).

And here we have the biggest issue that I have with this thread. I'm really anti-anthropocentric and despise the idea that humans are important to story telling. I'm simply going to refuse cause the reward is going to a home where I am going to outlive everyone and will have none of the interesting things, people and leisure of the rest of creation.

Besides that assumes I can't find my way back thanks to tech from one of these universes doesn't it?

Yeah I can help some of these universes out can't I? And one would argue I should morally. So lets say Halo, all I'm going to do is evacuate to another dimension everyone, no fuck that, the human rebels and the smarter sangelli and help in detonating the Rings to rid that world of concentrated stupidity, fascists child experimenting fucks, and contain the Flood.

Hey I feel better about myself already. But no really the first place I'm going is Star Wars around about 24500 bby, cause with the built in Force powers it's almost required to head there immediately to learn. And why then? Cause that is the First Great Schism of the Jedi Order, and the only one that the none-Jedi were in the right (and the jedi in the wrong.) My goals are to A) learn from Xendor all aspects of the force B) at least keep Xendor alive and C) hopefully help wipe out the Jedi order before the conflict could be redirected into civilian areas (which was the strategy of the jedi to reduce support for Xendor and damn the collateral damage.)

Then if I ever feel the need to actually head home I'll hit up the universe of Nanoha (even if it's called a magical place the magic there is just sufficiently advanced technology in most ways.) Actually I probably would hit up Mid-Childa just to see if the force powers would sync up with one of their devices. But either way they have a Time Space cops that might just be able to get me home anyway. Hell if the Force and Mid-childan Devices do work together then I'd trade the knowledge of oracle type powers for Mid-Childa (since the TSAB do disaster relief it might help to have early detection) and Devices to the Legions of Lettow (so they have an easier time in defeating the Jedi.)

Though there are other worlds I could travel to with a chance of their technology taking me home, again it isn't exactly a high priority to me.

[Simon_Jester]

I have a couple of issues with this RAR, and unfortunately an easy out to the situation. Lets start with my issues and start small.

You also have the ability to create a dimensional gate which is large enough to fit a space station around the size of Deep Space Nine through to another universe with you, and can hold it open for an hour.

Though the size of DS9 is very much not regular throughout the series. So not a good reference unlike it's set up to be. Also skipping (cause I'm still on the smaller issues)

Although one can still get an idea of the meaning- a space station large enough to dock pretty big ships, to contain hundreds or thousands of people comfortably, to defend itself reasonably well against anything that isn't a mile-long multimegaton giant dreadnought monster... but not something insanely huge like the Death Star.

The exact dimensions are not important.

And here we have the biggest issue that I have with this thread. I'm really anti-anthropocentric and despise the idea that humans are important to story telling. I'm simply going to refuse cause the reward is going to a home where I am going to outlive everyone and will have none of the interesting things, people and leisure of the rest of creation.

Looking back, this is interesting- why does the author expect our perspective to be human-centric?

[mr friendly guy]

I have a couple of issues with this RAR, and unfortunately an easy out to the situation. Lets start with my issues and start small.

You also have the ability to create a dimensional gate which is large enough to fit a space station around the size of Deep Space Nine through to another universe with you, and can hold it open for an hour.

Though the size of DS9 is very much not regular throughout the series. So not a good reference unlike it's set up to be. Also skipping (cause I'm still on the smaller issues)

The point of using a space station size is to imply that most tech you want to trade can fit through this dimensional portal you create. Well except Death star size space stations.

I was initially going to say a Star ship can fit through, but some Star ships are simply much bigger than others, so I thought lets go with a space station to be on the safe side.

And here we have the biggest issue that I have with this thread. I'm really anti-anthropocentric and despise the idea that humans are important to story telling. I'm simply going to refuse cause the reward is going to a home where I am going to outlive everyone and will have none of the interesting things, people and leisure of the rest of creation.

To be honest I chose humans mainly because most of the fan fiction crossovers I like reading involved human polities. Plus we are obviously the dominant race in sci fi across the multiverse. Because we appear in almost all science fiction.

Besides that assumes I can't find my way back thanks to tech from one of these universes doesn't it?

No it doesn't actually. Because in these type of RAR scenarios there is always some poster who thinks they are smart enough to "cheat" the scenario. Instead of fighting it, I want to see what tech they can come up with to beat the scenario. So if you get home without facilitating trade, the "omnipotent" being isn't going to punish you for it.

Oh, I was hoping people won't try to use "magic" as advance science too much because I actually want to do a RAR involving fantasy worlds where magic is used, as well this RAR which involves sci fi franchises.

[Formless]

Oh, I was hoping people won't try to use "magic" as advance science too much because I actually want to do a RAR involving fantasy worlds where magic is used, as well this RAR which involves sci fi franchises.

Well, you already gave Sorchus force powers, and that's straight up magic right there. No sufficiently advanced this or that. Magic.

[mr friendly guy]

I feel SW kind of nudges the line a bit there. Generally though if its a franchise that would normally be considered fantasy on this board, don't discuss it here (I want to eventually do a fantasy equivalent), whereas SW is still in the science fiction part of this board.

[Formless]

Generally though if its a franchise that would normally be considered fantasy on this board, don't discuss it here (I want to eventually do a fantasy equivalent), whereas SW is still in the science fiction part of this board.

That's a coincidence of real life history, not a disproof of The Force's nature as magic. If SW is fair game, then I don't see how Nanoha (which does show magic as technology as an explicit plot twist) isn't. What this board usually discusses is a fraction of a percent of the sci-fi genre-- the most popular stuff. And among that stuff is warhammer 40K-- need I say more? And its not really opening the floodgates (I mean, there is plenty of psionics in sci-fi as it is, SW just doesn't cover it under a veneer like that), he choose pretty carefully to go to a place that was technologically advanced and not just high fantasy. I mean, its not like he said he was going to Dominaria to try and obtain a genuine Planeswalker's spark. That's what I would do, if I could. I do have a plan B, though, but it has little in common with the usual, like, seven something franchises everyone talks about?

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Here's what I do if I want to get back home to my universe. After honing my force powers, I go to the universe of Star Ocean around the time of the events of Star Ocean 3: Till the end of time, learn some runic skills to supplement The Force, and then use a gate to 4D space to talk to the devs about their spacetime tech. If I get resistance, I've got little reason not to go full Sith mode on the Sphere Company's owners (since, after all, my "employer" wants me to help out humanity, and humanity is being attacked by the Sphere Company's Executioner programs).

Plan C would be to go to the Digital World to use the same dimensional travel method as Ryo from the WonderSwan games. That has the advantage of bringing me back to the right time period of Earth practically guaranteed.

Plan D would be to go to the universe of Half Life and offer my knowledge of dimensional travel from the previous two excursions as well as their future with Xen and the Combine to either Black Mesa or Aperture Science to develop a method of traveling wherever the hell I want.

If that doesn't work (and I pretty much can't be cornered by assholes like the Combine, the Military or the G-Man because of my native planeshift ability) I go to Wesley Crusher and/or anyone with Warp tech experience to tech-tech something up with their knowledge and the past three excursions.

Pretty much rinse-wash and repeat with every universe that does time travel or space-time dickery as a matter of course until someone creates something workable. The fact that some of them might obtain planeshifting tech on their own because of this doesn't really bother me. I'd be to badass to be stopped.

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So let's get wild and wacky.

Bigheadpress.com has two very similar sci-fi universes (Escape from Terra and Quantum Vibe) in webcomics, both sort of vaguely about rugged belters/Lagrangians resisting oppression from Old Earth socialist government/megacorps that have replaced government. Very libertarian bent to half their comics. The people in Escape have real-time FTL broadband communication across the system in the form of a (guantum) tanglenet, but lack artificial gravity, which Quantum Vibe has while needing to wait hours and sometimes days for messages to reach their destination. Straight across the table, everyone benefits massively except for The Man. For that matter, Dr. Seamus O'Murchada of QV has proprietary technology in the form of an advanced mass-detector and EM shield, both advanced enough if I could persuade the good doctor I could sell either in the Three Galaxies for decent FTL drive. Maybe the tanglenet too.

I'm feeling devious, so I approach Stargate Command early on and offer to set up a trade with the Foundation. 1990s computer and agrarian technology and materials in exchange for nuclear power safe and reliable, and able to be miniaturized to the size of a walnut, plus personal shields, nuclear shears and all the other fruits Asimov though would come of the atom. I also ask Hammond how he feels about buying up the Manticoran Junction Forts for trinium and naquadah once the Manties no longer need/were going to have to replace them anyways.

Having been remind recently about Weber's Path of the Fury/In Fury Born book, I arrange for them to trade some of Manticore's technology, like RDs and laser heads for their novel singularity drive (another no-wedge sublight drive) and SLAM FTL missile/message drone technology. Oh, AI too.

And on that note, recalling the anti-stun sheathing over Alicia's organs and her pharmacopeia, I should really build a vast network of trading information on transhumanism, I've already got the Culture and OA now to expand to everywhere humanity has been tinkered with or improved. I'll give the Great Crusade/Heresy Emperor one chance to participate, if he impresses me with a vision of a post-victory galaxy that isn't an awful place.

Oh, and I bridge Mutineer's Moon and March Upcountry to try and get Emperor Roger some serious industry and FTL, maybe enhancement, and Emperor Colin and Dahak a source of that sweet artificial neutronium, ChromSten.

I bet Triax would love to know how to produce Silver Eagles and Mastiffs, even if I get to them after Free Quebec sells them Glitter Boy specs. And I'm sure they could lend an awful lot of material support to NEMA, which is particularly hurting in the Giant Mecha category. On a related note, I will locate every group that believes they're the last survivors of the Great Cataclysm, give them the tanglenet technology and pimp slap them until they start working together in a reasonable manner. Escape from Terra will benefit from MDC chemistry in exchange. Oh wait, not doing RIFTS, nevermind.

Back to 40K, question for the OP, mr. Friendly Guy, what restrictions exist on our trading? Do we have to be open and relatively aboveboard? I'm assuming I can't just loot 40K for technical knowledge, then claim the traded data and technologies are recently discovered STC data?