Assuming that you could choose a single planet or mostly defunct space station, and could cherry pick personnel, materials, and technology from any sci fi universe, how would you go about building an empire?
As for the rules of the situation, there would be a few. First, if no matter what home verse you choose, the technology that you bring in will work as it is suppose to (or as much as it works in the home setting that it comes from). Secondly, you cannot bring hyper advanced technology to relatively primitive settings, for instance, you could bring nBSG tech to BattleTech, but you couldn't bring Culture tech to Firefly. (except maybe knife missiles and anti laser mortars) Thirdly, while mostly immortal and capable of Timelord like regeneration, you can be killed if someone tries hard enough.
As to acquiring personnel and resources, you can produce raw materials through alchemy, (creative use of Tiberium's ability to transmute other matter into more Tiberium, in this case modified to produce other stuff) grab entire crewed ships right before they are destroyed, and, if you can convince them, even recruit copies of the main characters of sci fi franchises.
Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
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Corvus 501
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Re: Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
Question what about something like Warhammer 40k since part of the inherent back story of 40k is that the current time is the dark time of mankind shrouded in darkness and ignorance. Or in other words in the year 29,000 things were pretty awesome and advanced but 11,000 years later things suck. Can I bring back technology that has since been lost to Warhammer 40k or a similar universe which has that same "We used to have cool stuff"
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Re: Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
A question. Just how large a tech gap is our maximum limit? Could we say bring the death star into Star Trek?
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You win. There, I have said it.
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Re: Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
I would pick Alderaan as my planet, just before the Death Star shows up. And the sci-fi universe I choose tech, equipment and personnel from? Why, Dragonball Z of course! I just have to see a Kamehameha battle with the Death Star! To make things interesting I would pick a weaker character like Krillen or Yamcha, in order to give the Death Star a fair chance. Or maybe pick Saiyan Saga Goku, who was roughly on par with it at that point.
Afterwards (assuming we survive) we'll head over to Coruscant and deck the Emperor in the schnoz!
Afterwards (assuming we survive) we'll head over to Coruscant and deck the Emperor in the schnoz!
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Re: Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
Also how much obedience can I expect from my crew? Will they obey by authors fiat or do I have to contend with their personalities? If it's the later than that shuts out a huge amount of characters as the good guys generally won't want to help me conquer and destroy and the bad guys will not wish to serve me.
It has become clear to me in the previous days that any attempts at reconciliation and explanation with the community here has failed. I have tried my best. I really have. I pored my heart out trying. But it was all for nothing.
You win. There, I have said it.
Now there is only one thing left to do. Let us see if I can sum up the strength needed to end things once and for all.
You win. There, I have said it.
Now there is only one thing left to do. Let us see if I can sum up the strength needed to end things once and for all.
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Re: Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
Why the hell would I bother to build an empire? I'll just sell my not 'quite' hyper advanced technology to the highest bidder.
'Next time I let Superman take charge, just hit me. Real hard.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
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'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
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Re: Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
What is stopping them from just taking it? Or just buying it and than, stronger for it using it against you.Batman wrote:Why the hell would I bother to build an empire? I'll just sell my not 'quite' hyper advanced technology to the highest bidder.
It has become clear to me in the previous days that any attempts at reconciliation and explanation with the community here has failed. I have tried my best. I really have. I pored my heart out trying. But it was all for nothing.
You win. There, I have said it.
Now there is only one thing left to do. Let us see if I can sum up the strength needed to end things once and for all.
You win. There, I have said it.
Now there is only one thing left to do. Let us see if I can sum up the strength needed to end things once and for all.
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Re: Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
Because buying it is less expensive for them than just taking it.Purple wrote:What is stopping them from just taking it? Or just buying it and than, stronger for it using it against you.Batman wrote:Why the hell would I bother to build an empire? I'll just sell my not 'quite' hyper advanced technology to the highest bidder.
Because I've set some big fucking bombs that I will use to destroy anything they might be trying to steal from me and I've made sure they know about the bombs. So they know that all any attempt to steal my technology will do is piss off everyone else who might be wanting to buy it.
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They now have the technology while I'm just a guy having a good time. Why would they 'bother'?
'Next time I let Superman take charge, just hit me. Real hard.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
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Re: Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
For fear that you will sell to their enemies as well.Batman wrote:They now have the technology while I'm just a guy having a good time. Why would they 'bother'?
It has become clear to me in the previous days that any attempts at reconciliation and explanation with the community here has failed. I have tried my best. I really have. I pored my heart out trying. But it was all for nothing.
You win. There, I have said it.
Now there is only one thing left to do. Let us see if I can sum up the strength needed to end things once and for all.
You win. There, I have said it.
Now there is only one thing left to do. Let us see if I can sum up the strength needed to end things once and for all.
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Re: Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
Yeah. Like I didn't already do that.
'Next time I let Superman take charge, just hit me. Real hard.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
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Re: Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
Sounds like a recipes for war as everyone arms up..
It has become clear to me in the previous days that any attempts at reconciliation and explanation with the community here has failed. I have tried my best. I really have. I pored my heart out trying. But it was all for nothing.
You win. There, I have said it.
Now there is only one thing left to do. Let us see if I can sum up the strength needed to end things once and for all.
You win. There, I have said it.
Now there is only one thing left to do. Let us see if I can sum up the strength needed to end things once and for all.
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Re: Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
So? Since they have little incentive to blow up the holiday planet I retired to, what do I care?
'Next time I let Superman take charge, just hit me. Real hard.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
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Re: Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
That's a rather... evil take on things. I mean, I'd go rape, pillage and generally all Hun on the galaxy. But the deaths of a galactic war in any setting far outweigh anything I'd do.
Don't take me wrong. I don't nesecerily disprove of your statement. It's just... well I ain't used to being the lesser evil.
Don't take me wrong. I don't nesecerily disprove of your statement. It's just... well I ain't used to being the lesser evil.
It has become clear to me in the previous days that any attempts at reconciliation and explanation with the community here has failed. I have tried my best. I really have. I pored my heart out trying. But it was all for nothing.
You win. There, I have said it.
Now there is only one thing left to do. Let us see if I can sum up the strength needed to end things once and for all.
You win. There, I have said it.
Now there is only one thing left to do. Let us see if I can sum up the strength needed to end things once and for all.
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Re: Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
@Batman: Than a paranoid spook kills or kidnaps you.
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Re: Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
Where I live the universe get very nearly destroyed and/or rebooted every couple of years anyway. And Corvus-it's 'then' and a paranoid spook 'tries' to. Find me the last time one of them 'succeeded'.
'Next time I let Superman take charge, just hit me. Real hard.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
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Re: Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
I may be evil. But batman. That guy is scary.
It has become clear to me in the previous days that any attempts at reconciliation and explanation with the community here has failed. I have tried my best. I really have. I pored my heart out trying. But it was all for nothing.
You win. There, I have said it.
Now there is only one thing left to do. Let us see if I can sum up the strength needed to end things once and for all.
You win. There, I have said it.
Now there is only one thing left to do. Let us see if I can sum up the strength needed to end things once and for all.
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Re: Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
Ooh, interesting...
The limits on how we can acquire personnel and supplies are a bit unclear, though. The OP suggests our means are basically unlimited, then later specifies certain limits. Also, is this "Tiberium"-related alchemy, about which I know nothing, the only means we have of creating supplies? And we have to convince main characters to join us, but are less pivotal and powerful beings deprived of any free will in weather they obey us or not? This stuff is important.
Presuming I can access anything or anyone (tech. limits aside) if I can persuade the people in question to join me, then...
For a home base, I'm looking for something that is durable, big, and mobile. The OP says planet or space station, but the Death Star is described as a space station despite being mobile.
My end goal will be to create a sort of knightly order/superhero league to act as humanitarian aid and peacekeepers throughout the multiverse.
The limits on how we can acquire personnel and supplies are a bit unclear, though. The OP suggests our means are basically unlimited, then later specifies certain limits. Also, is this "Tiberium"-related alchemy, about which I know nothing, the only means we have of creating supplies? And we have to convince main characters to join us, but are less pivotal and powerful beings deprived of any free will in weather they obey us or not? This stuff is important.
Presuming I can access anything or anyone (tech. limits aside) if I can persuade the people in question to join me, then...
For a home base, I'm looking for something that is durable, big, and mobile. The OP says planet or space station, but the Death Star is described as a space station despite being mobile.
My end goal will be to create a sort of knightly order/superhero league to act as humanitarian aid and peacekeepers throughout the multiverse.
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Re: Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
Tiberium from Command and Conquer transmutes other types of matter to produce more of itself. Handwave a few things, and you can use it for alchemy. Personnel acquisition is easier, as they are essential clones of themselves in a new universe, and in most cases, you cloned them just as their ship was blowing up. As to your fourth point, if you got a Death Star, it would be one that was a run down derelict.
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What about loyalty? Do these people obey me or do I have to work with their personality? Like if I chose Jesus to be my XO could I order him to help me pillage and rape and expect him to do so or would he being the moral person that he is refuse?
It has become clear to me in the previous days that any attempts at reconciliation and explanation with the community here has failed. I have tried my best. I really have. I pored my heart out trying. But it was all for nothing.
You win. There, I have said it.
Now there is only one thing left to do. Let us see if I can sum up the strength needed to end things once and for all.
You win. There, I have said it.
Now there is only one thing left to do. Let us see if I can sum up the strength needed to end things once and for all.
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Re: Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
Hmm.Corvus 501 wrote:Tiberium from Command and Conquer transmutes other types of matter to produce more of itself. Handwave a few things, and you can use it for alchemy. Personnel acquisition is easier, as they are essential clones of themselves in a new universe, and in most cases, you cloned them just as their ship was blowing up. As to your fourth point, if you got a Death Star, it would be one that was a run down derelict.
Recruiting someone voluntarily is fine, of course, but I have huge ethnical qualms about cloning a sentient being to serve me and the whole issue of creating new beings (especially ones with memories of other beings) gets so complicated, so it looks like I'll be using droid labour. Bugger.
A TARDIS would make an ideal home base, actually (nigh-limitless space on the inside, great durability, and nigh-limitless mobility). Except that a TARDIS is sentient and unpredictable. A Death Star (probably with the superlaser decommissioned) might be good if I could get it working again.
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Re: Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
Droid labor is actually a great idea TRR. I can get around all the silly morality qualms and get an army of faceless evil mooks to serve me unquestionably and with no need to rest or be placated. A force whose loyalty can not be taken neither through hatred of their toil or my injustices nor their own ambition. And who newer shall have any resistance to my wickedness nor sympathy for the causes of others than my self.
It has become clear to me in the previous days that any attempts at reconciliation and explanation with the community here has failed. I have tried my best. I really have. I pored my heart out trying. But it was all for nothing.
You win. There, I have said it.
Now there is only one thing left to do. Let us see if I can sum up the strength needed to end things once and for all.
You win. There, I have said it.
Now there is only one thing left to do. Let us see if I can sum up the strength needed to end things once and for all.
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Re: Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
Yeah, because that totally never misfired in SciFi.
'Next time I let Superman take charge, just hit me. Real hard.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
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Re: Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
An army of robots? What ever weakness they might have it stands no greater than those of sentient soldiers. And yet one who commands an army of machines is newer to be conspired against by his own enforcers. And whilst any dead of wickedness brings with it a degree of risk, that is something that must be accepted. What matters is that one does not act carelessly. And that one ensures that any injury he does to others is measured and performed in such severity that they might newer recover from it. So that one may newer fear vengeance from those he has injured. And given that I'd have a Death Star manned by an army of loyal troops I think I can acomplish that.
It has become clear to me in the previous days that any attempts at reconciliation and explanation with the community here has failed. I have tried my best. I really have. I pored my heart out trying. But it was all for nothing.
You win. There, I have said it.
Now there is only one thing left to do. Let us see if I can sum up the strength needed to end things once and for all.
You win. There, I have said it.
Now there is only one thing left to do. Let us see if I can sum up the strength needed to end things once and for all.
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Re: Where in the Multiverse Would You Build an Empire?
Yup. The 'army of robots' idea worked out so well in nBSG.
'Next time I let Superman take charge, just hit me. Real hard.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'