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In T2 Arnold says sky net attacks Russia wiping them out, but wiping out the humans of America in retaliation. But what happened to Europe, Africa, Australia, and Soiuth America?
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I'm no Terminator expert, but SkyNet controls the full nuclear arsenal of the entire United States, doesn't it? After the initial nuking, there would be more than enough nukes to finish the job and wipe out all the other countries.
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The UUFC (United Union of French Cowards) had by that time gained control of all Europe, Africa, Australia, and South America. They immediatly surrenderd all their territory to SkyNet after a damaged bot from a battle in Russia clanked into Europe, tripped on a rock, fell, and was destroyed.

The UUFC was terrifyed, to say the least.

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Yes but what Arnold said was "Yes. It launches its ICBMs against their
targets in Russia." Also pogrammed into his mission parameters was that he would listen and do every John Connor said to his fullest extent, who in turn told him to do every thing his mother said. And she is the one who asked the question about what happened with skynet.
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I want it on the record that I started my last reply before the reply by Darth Gnome.
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Since Europe contains the NATO countries and all that, they'd be targets for Russia's missiles.
I don't know about the other continents, but the nuclear winter would get them anyway, and hey, with the major powers gone Skynet would just have to send in it's killbots to those areas.
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Once the "Super-Powers" had been eliminated, the world was thrown into chaos, after that Skynet could work on the rest of humanity at will. Plus, nothing stopped skynet from building other nukes later on and sending other people's way I'm sure.

That may have been it's primary tactic.

1.)Find area where humanity habitates enmasse

2.) Nuke area

3.) Send in H-K's and terminator units to perform mop-up and infiltrate enemy strongholds.
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Soviet war plans called for the nuking of every nation on the planet, including there own Warsaw pact allies. No one would escape unharmed. They also intended to keep up a light rain of nukes for a year or more. That’s what the Typhoons were for, hiding away nukes for later use to prevent an American recovery. The things even had statalights loaded into four of their missile tubes to provide targeting data!


That way everyone would have to rebuild from the same level so they wouldn't have to worry about Argentina colonists or South African nuking them again every couple years.

However by 1997, the Russian nuclear arsenal wasn't even sufficient for a decisive strike against just the USA, today they only have a few hundred working warheads at most.

I should point out though, that even assuming the Russian and American arsenals stayed at there 1984 levels though 1997 rather then the historical reductions, the firepower could not come close to killing 1 billion, let alone 3 billion.

However the worlds tech level would be knocked back about 180 years, so if Skynet had even a small production base for modern weaponry intact, it could rapidly overwhelm what was left of the worlds militaries, which would still have quite a bit of conventional firepower left.
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We survive and watch as America and Russia go apocalyptic. :D

Anyway, it's canon that only LA is a desolate wasteland. 8)
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Thats what the Typhoons were for, hiding away nukes for later use to prevent an American recovery. The things even had statalights loaded into four of their missile tubes to provide targeting data!
I have to disagree with you here my boy, The Typhoon Subs are ment for two things and twos thing only, Counter-battery and surpise washington attacks.

The Precurser to war is simple, Sneak a sub up, Launch a Nuke from NYC, One on the City itself, One on the Captial Building, And the rest at the Navel Yards up and down the base with the largest Nuke designated for Quantaco and the Marine Traning base, Not only will you get alot of ground troops but typicaly A Joint Chief or two is there if not elsewhere plus a TON of our Intel Assets are in the area.

Normaly during the State of the Union Adress is when the attack is called for as prescribed by Soviet Tatical Doctrine for a US First strike because unlike us They Regard Nuclear War as a possbility.

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Mr Bean wrote:
Thats what the Typhoons were for, hiding away nukes for later use to prevent an American recovery. The things even had statalights loaded into four of their missile tubes to provide targeting data!
I have to disagree with you here my boy, The Typhoon Subs are ment for two things and twos thing only, Counter-battery and surpise washington attacks.

The Precurser to war is simple, Sneak a sub up, Launch a Nuke from NYC, One on the City itself, One on the Captial Building, And the rest at the Navel Yards up and down the base with the largest Nuke designated for Quantaco and the Marine Traning base, Not only will you get alot of ground troops but typicaly A Joint Chief or two is there if not elsewhere plus a TON of our Intel Assets are in the area.

Normaly during the State of the Union Adress is when the attack is called for as prescribed by Soviet Tatical Doctrine for a US First strike because unlike us They Regard Nuclear War as a possbility.
Russian records and experts on the subject disagree, check your Email.

And roasting Washington and costal targets was a job for SSN's with air bursting SS-N-16 missiles, not the dedicated missile boats.
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In T2 Arnold says sky net attacks Russia wiping them out, but wiping out the humans of America in retaliation. But what happened to Europe, Africa, Australia, and Soiuth America?
Orginal Scenario: Even with the arms reductions, Russia is going to be targeting us and our allies. NATO fires back and devastates Russia further.

Skynet then proceeds to nuke the rest of the world now that it's in sole command. It moves in on the Thrid World. Isolated areas are spared nuking and are simply patrolled by skynet. Disease and famine produced as a result of fallout and climate change wipe out most of the survivors.

Post T2 scenario- Similar except (going from the two addon books) skynet doesn't cause immediate panic. Instead it bides it's time as a n arms race breaks out. Eventually Judgement Day. Probably a more devestating first strike with a longer rebuild times for both sides.
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