one one side we have the terron(ued and dominon)protoss and zerg(do you want me to breing in the Xl'Naga in to this(there shoud be some left.....) vs the AQ
so who woud win
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What info do we have on the Starcraft universe -- that is, how powerful are their weapons, how fast are their ships, how fast is their FTL capability, what kind of FTL comm capability do they have, how large are their forces?
To spotlight one potential contest, however, we can compare the Zerg to the Borg -- if only because both are the Boogeyman of their universe, and because Trekkies tend to use the Borg as their "ultimate" weapon for defeating other SF universes.
Both groups specialize in "assimilating" their opponents. However, they are contrasted in their methods:
-- Borg are focused on assimilating the technology of their targets, with individual assimilations apparantly reserved either for specific circumstances or to replenish their losses.
-- Zerg rarely assimilate individual targets, and almost never focus on assimilating technology or equipment. However, they apparantly have a uniquely adaptive genetic code that allows them to not only add in specific genetic traits from any new species they encounter, but also allow their larva to mutate into specific subspecies of Zerg and Zerg buildings as needed without the need for external genetic manipulation.
Given the problem that the Borg had with the species from fluidic space (sorry, can't remember their number right now), in particular their apparant inability to adapt to that species' organic-based technology, I think that the Borg would have as much, if not more, difficulty assimilating the Borg. Even worse for the Borg, as a psionically-communicating species which has a universal link between each Zerg and the links in the command chain, a powerful enough Cerebrate, and especially the Overmind, would probably have a chance at psionically interfering with the Borg Collective's hive mind, or at least have a good chance of nosing around in it without being detected.
To spotlight one potential contest, however, we can compare the Zerg to the Borg -- if only because both are the Boogeyman of their universe, and because Trekkies tend to use the Borg as their "ultimate" weapon for defeating other SF universes.
Both groups specialize in "assimilating" their opponents. However, they are contrasted in their methods:
-- Borg are focused on assimilating the technology of their targets, with individual assimilations apparantly reserved either for specific circumstances or to replenish their losses.
-- Zerg rarely assimilate individual targets, and almost never focus on assimilating technology or equipment. However, they apparantly have a uniquely adaptive genetic code that allows them to not only add in specific genetic traits from any new species they encounter, but also allow their larva to mutate into specific subspecies of Zerg and Zerg buildings as needed without the need for external genetic manipulation.
Given the problem that the Borg had with the species from fluidic space (sorry, can't remember their number right now), in particular their apparant inability to adapt to that species' organic-based technology, I think that the Borg would have as much, if not more, difficulty assimilating the Borg. Even worse for the Borg, as a psionically-communicating species which has a universal link between each Zerg and the links in the command chain, a powerful enough Cerebrate, and especially the Overmind, would probably have a chance at psionically interfering with the Borg Collective's hive mind, or at least have a good chance of nosing around in it without being detected.
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Negative. The Terrans have excellent FTL, better than warp drive, actually comparing to B5 hyperspace.IG-88E wrote:I don't think the Terrans have any FTL, they use suspended animation. Man to man though, and race could kick the shit out of the Feds. Probably the whole AQ, too.
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The Protoss have excellant FTL, judging by the fact that they can hop over the sector at will. Ditto the Terrans. The Zerg appear to have some form of instant FTL.
The AQ is going to get roasted. Cubes sure as hell won't adapt to a swarm of Scourges, the siege tanks will roll over the broken remains of the Starfleet Academy, and there's a huge difference between forgoing guns for swords and forgoing guns for psionic energy-blades.
The AQ is going to get roasted. Cubes sure as hell won't adapt to a swarm of Scourges, the siege tanks will roll over the broken remains of the Starfleet Academy, and there's a huge difference between forgoing guns for swords and forgoing guns for psionic energy-blades.
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The Terrans do have FTL travel. They were able to travel 60,000 LYs in a matter of months.IG-88E wrote:I don't think the Terrans have any FTL, they use suspended animation. Man to man though, and race could kick the shit out of the Feds. Probably the whole AQ, too.
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I made this topic long ago, lot of idiots thought terran would lose horrible but protoss would own AQ which con-fucking-fused the hell out of me since Terran can beat protoss but oh well.
Accual game play can't be taken as fact due to restrictions in size and speed, so it up to the book and the cutscenes to take info from.
Since a BC can take a hit from a tactical nuke, so lets say it takes 2 photon torps to kill one BC.
From the victory cutscene from the SC terran campaign we see the yamato cannon in it's full glory. It is a full beam and can destroy a battlecrusier in one hit. Completely. I think that 2 BCs, a Defense matrix BC, or several BC and a sci vessel with EMP can take a trek ship. Also the Sons Of Korhol Squadren cutscene we see a missle from a single wriath destroy a large space station.
The only problem is Trek has shields, probly stronger than Protoss shields.
Accual game play can't be taken as fact due to restrictions in size and speed, so it up to the book and the cutscenes to take info from.
Since a BC can take a hit from a tactical nuke, so lets say it takes 2 photon torps to kill one BC.
From the victory cutscene from the SC terran campaign we see the yamato cannon in it's full glory. It is a full beam and can destroy a battlecrusier in one hit. Completely. I think that 2 BCs, a Defense matrix BC, or several BC and a sci vessel with EMP can take a trek ship. Also the Sons Of Korhol Squadren cutscene we see a missle from a single wriath destroy a large space station.
The only problem is Trek has shields, probly stronger than Protoss shields.
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The cutscene was a propaganda movie. The BC they are shooting was doing nothing and we do not see even what happen before. Its very dubious to take the one hit teory for granted.
The big question is about the firepower of federation ships. I asked once about they power - I remember once or while, Kirk meneace to destroy the surface of a planet with Enterprise. I do not know if this is a bluffing tatic or is "real".
The Ships of no one of them can do that in one attack, So its just a weak way to compare the firepower of both.
The cutscene was a propaganda movie. The BC they are shooting was doing nothing and we do not see even what happen before. Its very dubious to take the one hit teory for granted.
The big question is about the firepower of federation ships. I asked once about they power - I remember once or while, Kirk meneace to destroy the surface of a planet with Enterprise. I do not know if this is a bluffing tatic or is "real".
The Ships of no one of them can do that in one attack, So its just a weak way to compare the firepower of both.
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SC ships got good FTL, but crappy inter system drives and the ranges are not great. And while game play can't be relied on heavily, you have to accept everything shown in game as capable if somewhat restricted. That means infatry weapons can down BCs.
If you go by the plot, movies, cutscenes, and briefings then ship building basically doesn't exist. They already got their fleets, etc... The fleet sizes in SC are not all that huge. Largest fleet shown was the UED expiditionary force and that was at best 3 dozen BCs shown together with the Science vesel being even larger and much rarer.
If you go by the plot, movies, cutscenes, and briefings then ship building basically doesn't exist. They already got their fleets, etc... The fleet sizes in SC are not all that huge. Largest fleet shown was the UED expiditionary force and that was at best 3 dozen BCs shown together with the Science vesel being even larger and much rarer.
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Fed'll take it. Little peewee tactical nukes can frag BCs and they can be shot apart in short order by a dozen or so hydralisks (from a novel not in-game btw).
On the ground is a different story. The feds will get positively shredded there (not that there's much that wouldn't shred the feds on the ground)
Fed'll take it. Little peewee tactical nukes can frag BCs and they can be shot apart in short order by a dozen or so hydralisks (from a novel not in-game btw).
On the ground is a different story. The feds will get positively shredded there (not that there's much that wouldn't shred the feds on the ground)