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I have a few questions about Phasers?

1)What is the diference between phasers and disruptors and what is their max power output known?

2)In ST2 the Enterprise and the Reliant fired pulsed phasers, then why didi starfleet considered the defiant pulse phasers a new technology?

3)If the phasers are matter dependent how do they affect shields?(EMP?)
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Darth Phoenix wrote:1)What is the diference between phasers and disruptors and what is their max power output known?
I believe the TM's say phasers use fast nadions and disruptors use slow nadions, whatever difference that makes then...

Disruptors are more brute-force weapons too, while phasers are more delicate and many many small emitters can be linked in arrays, which is why there are no phaser turrets anymore on UFP ships.

with disruptors OTOH you cannot do this, you just build bigger and and stronger single emitters like you would build a bigger gun.

This gives disruptors a bigger punch than any phaser system IIRC and in contrast to phasers they can refire quicker because a phaser array very deflicate focusing system has to be re-callibrated or something after each shot.
2)In ST2 the Enterprise and the Reliant fired pulsed phasers, then why didi starfleet considered the defiant pulse phasers a new technology?
They may havebeen more disruptor like in the old days, disruptors are more primitive in a way but more powerfull too.
The phaser system is more delicate and can be tuned and meddled with to your hearts content, perfect for those starfleet sissies.
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as for nro. 3 I dunno, maybe the NDF reaction works on shields too?
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The Defiant PPCs are of a different type of pulse weapon. If you watch DS9 The Maquis, you will also see another type of pulse phaser.

IMO the old pulse phasers were more or less like normal phasers, but they fired them in rapid pulses. Modern PPCs are fixed axis cannons. Furthermore, if the DS9 TM is to be trusted, modern PPC shots are layered with hundreds if not thousands of different frequencies for the shot. In other words, that entire pulse contains information from the entire spectrum, for the most part. But you have to remember what PPCs were originally designed to fight. Borg ships that adapt to frequencies. So PPCs are designed so that the Borg can't fully adapt and that some of the Pulse might be stopped, but not all of it.
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Alyeska wrote:The Defiant PPCs are of a different type of pulse weapon. If you watch DS9 The Maquis, you will also see another type of pulse phaser.

IMO the old pulse phasers were more or less like normal phasers, but they fired them in rapid pulses. Modern PPCs are fixed axis cannons. Furthermore, if the DS9 TM is to be trusted, modern PPC shots are layered with hundreds if not thousands of different frequencies for the shot. In other words, that entire pulse contains information from the entire spectrum, for the most part. But you have to remember what PPCs were originally designed to fight. Borg ships that adapt to frequencies. So PPCs are designed so that the Borg can't fully adapt and that some of the Pulse might be stopped, but not all of it.
Slightly off-topic I know, but since you're a ST fan, thought I'd ask. Do you stand with the claims of the Connie crowd that claims fantasic numbers for the Connie ships, making them infinitely more powerful than TNG Galaxy-class ships?
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jegs2 wrote:
Alyeska wrote:The Defiant PPCs are of a different type of pulse weapon. If you watch DS9 The Maquis, you will also see another type of pulse phaser.

IMO the old pulse phasers were more or less like normal phasers, but they fired them in rapid pulses. Modern PPCs are fixed axis cannons. Furthermore, if the DS9 TM is to be trusted, modern PPC shots are layered with hundreds if not thousands of different frequencies for the shot. In other words, that entire pulse contains information from the entire spectrum, for the most part. But you have to remember what PPCs were originally designed to fight. Borg ships that adapt to frequencies. So PPCs are designed so that the Borg can't fully adapt and that some of the Pulse might be stopped, but not all of it.
Slightly off-topic I know, but since you're a ST fan, thought I'd ask. Do you stand with the claims of the Connie crowd that claims fantasic numbers for the Connie ships, making them infinitely more powerful than TNG Galaxy-class ships?
Ya know when that first started it was simply a joke, but now some people appear to have taken it much farther.
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I've thought people had been serious about that all along...
They sure acted like it...
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jegs2 wrote:
Alyeska wrote:The Defiant PPCs are of a different type of pulse weapon. If you watch DS9 The Maquis, you will also see another type of pulse phaser.

IMO the old pulse phasers were more or less like normal phasers, but they fired them in rapid pulses. Modern PPCs are fixed axis cannons. Furthermore, if the DS9 TM is to be trusted, modern PPC shots are layered with hundreds if not thousands of different frequencies for the shot. In other words, that entire pulse contains information from the entire spectrum, for the most part. But you have to remember what PPCs were originally designed to fight. Borg ships that adapt to frequencies. So PPCs are designed so that the Borg can't fully adapt and that some of the Pulse might be stopped, but not all of it.
Slightly off-topic I know, but since you're a ST fan, thought I'd ask. Do you stand with the claims of the Connie crowd that claims fantasic numbers for the Connie ships, making them infinitely more powerful than TNG Galaxy-class ships?
There are a variety of lines of thought in that area. Prior to ICS and all that you had two groups. Those who saw TOS as seperate from the rest of ST, those who saw TOS as part of ST and new canon over rides old canon.

So if you had a debate, at that time, it depended on the rules you gave. If you forcably made TOS as part of the rest of ST, then TOS is weaker then ST and newer canon prevented older canon from taking flight. If you seperated TOS from the rest of ST, then any calcs you can find limited to TOS only are acceptable.

IMO, there is evidence that TOS era ships have greater firepower and damage taking capabilities then TNG, but not by the vast degrees that some people like to pretend.
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