Darth Rosenberg vs. Darth Sidious

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2002-10-29 06:11pm

Considering that I'm writing a Buffy/Star Wars crossover, why the Hell not? Who would win?

I'm going to give it to Sidious. I mean, come on. He's just a badass.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-29 06:14pm

Who's Darth Rosenburg?

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2002-10-29 06:20pm

Willow during the last two episodes of Buffy's sixth season.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-29 06:25pm

What? You mean LucasFilm actually let them get away with that?

(Well, besides the fact that that's about the stupidest name I've heard of.)

Sidious.

RayCav of ASVS · Post by **RayCav of ASVS** » 2002-10-29 06:31pm

Sideious and Willow get it on, Willow looks back and regrets ever doing it and blows her own brains out. Sideous the horribly old gheezer wins.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-29 06:41pm

Jesus, Ray, how old are you?

Do you think of ANYTHING other than your perverted view of sex?

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2002-10-29 07:00pm

Spanky, it's a nickname for her that one of the characters used on the show. Besides, both Buffy and Star Wars are distributed through 20th Century Fox.

RayCav, shut up.

Cpt. Marko Ramius · Post by **Cpt. Marko Ramius** » 2002-10-29 07:34pm

I have the unfortunate disposition of finding Willow to be UNBELIEVABLY sexy, so on that note, I'd have to side with her. I think it'd be fairly matched though, so it's a tough call. Personally, have to go with Sidious on this one... After all, Willow isn't really evil at heart, she was just pissed about Tara getting killed, and she'd snap back to her senses at some point. However, Sidious is rotten to the core, so he'd kick her cute little ass.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-29 07:46pm

Sidious would Force-lightning the hell out of her.

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-10-29 07:58pm

Willow gets the approval of the Dark Side because she fights out of pure vengeance and hatred and has allowed these "negative" emotions to completely take her over.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-10-29 10:01pm

Durandal wrote:Spanky, it's a nickname for her that one of the characters used on the show. Besides, both Buffy and Star Wars are distributed through 20th Century Fox.

RayCav, shut up.

I was under the impression that Star Wars is just distributed by 20th Century. However, Lucas, under Lucasfilm, still owns the rights to Star Wars. Therefore, 20th Century is allowed to distribute it, but cannot use it however it saw fit, including using liscensed material in other works.

Of course to keep this post on topic, I think that Sidious would win. He has the force, the thing that connects all living things. I doubt that Willow can match up to all the power of the dark side of the force. Though I've only seen part of the sixth season of Buffy. So it's just my opnion.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2002-10-29 10:29pm

I have the unfortunate disposition of finding Willow to be UNBELIEVABLY sexy, so on that note, I'd have to side with her. I think it'd be fairly matched though, so it's a tough call. Personally, have to go with Sidious on this one... After all, Willow isn't really evil at heart, she was just pissed about Tara getting killed, and she'd snap back to her senses at some point. However, Sidious is rotten to the core, so he'd kick her cute little ass.

Yes, Willow is extraordinarily beautiful, so she wins that hands down. Sorry, Sidious.

Willow gets the approval of the Dark Side because she fights out of pure vengeance and hatred and has allowed these "negative" emotions to completely take her over.

Ah, but Sidious is driven by a pure desire for power. He's cruel just for the sake of being cruel. Willow flayed Warren because he killed her lover, which is understandable, on some level.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-10-29 10:53pm

Willow showed herself to be invincible to just about everything. She could put spells on herself to make her more powerful. Energy attacks were useless against her. She could heal herself instantly if damaged. She could control the elements of the planet. Cause a bullet to penetrate someones chest at low speed. Vaporize them instantly. Tear their skin off in a flash...

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-10-29 11:18pm

RayCav of ASVS wrote:Sideious and Willow get it on, Willow looks back and regrets ever doing it and blows her own brains out. Sideous the horribly old gheezer wins.

For once RayCav's violence laden opinion is probably right. Willow looks back in horror and kills herself.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2002-10-29 11:18pm

I know this must seem like heresy here, but what have we actually seen Sidious do?

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2002-10-29 11:41pm

Darth Rosenburg would literally suck the power out of him. Force powers are good, but Willow has displayed so many different abilities that she could easily kill Sideous.

Beam weapons from the hand (about as powerful as a close range shottgun blast when at full power), Lightning bolts from hands, 'Smart' Fireball capable of making a crater 3m arcoss, able to increase the density of the air around an opponent, summon animal spirits, powerful and accurate telekenisis, telepathy, self-healing abilites, self-empowering abilities (to Slayer levels), mind control of strong minds (Vengance Demons), Magic-Drain, Flight, teleportation of herself and of others (ill-effects on others)...

that's just off the top of my head.

However, I doubt they would actually fight.

In truth, Sideous would bring Willow over to the Dark Side. or, at least try. Willow's reaction would vary depending on her level of corruption - she might join him and kill him later...or suck the power out of him right then and their.

either way, Darth Rosenburg is more than likely to win. (to note: before she achieved the level she did in "Two to Go" and "Grave", she was able to harm a dethrowned god. as Darth Rosenburg...she might be able to drive a god off.)

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-10-29 11:57pm

Would Willow be able to suck the power out of a force user? I thought it was only magic users.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-10-30 12:02am

Stormbringer wrote:Would Willow be able to suck the power out of a force user? I thought it was only magic users.

There are varrying types of magic in BTVS series. Wicans use different types of magics with different spells. You got old Sumarrian spells, Persian, and others. Different gods that are prayed to, etc...

RayCav of ASVS · Post by **RayCav of ASVS** » 2002-10-30 12:23am

Stormbringer wrote:Would Willow be able to suck the power out of a force user? I thought it was only magic users.

well....

*blocked by Spanky*

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-10-30 12:24am

Alyeska wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:Would Willow be able to suck the power out of a force user? I thought it was only magic users.
There are varrying types of magic in BTVS series. Wicans use different types of magics with different spells. You got old Sumarrian spells, Persian, and others. Different gods that are prayed to, etc...

So in other words, she might or might not be able to suck Palpy dry?

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2002-10-30 12:32am

Darth Rosenburg would literally suck the power out of him. Force powers are good, but Willow has displayed so many different abilities that she could easily kill Sideous.

Doubtful. Ole Palpy could possess her, remember.

Beam weapons from the hand (about as powerful as a close range shottgun blast when at full power), Lightning bolts from hands, 'Smart' Fireball capable of making a crater 3m arcoss, able to increase the density of the air around an opponent, summon animal spirits, powerful and accurate telekenisis, telepathy, self-healing abilites, self-empowering abilities (to Slayer levels), mind control of strong minds (Vengance Demons), Magic-Drain, Flight, teleportation of herself and of others (ill-effects on others)...

that's just off the top of my head.

The things Palpatine/Sidious has done, off the top of my head.

Created Force storms which can destroy entire fleets of ships, as well as planets.

Created Dark Side creatures capable of destroying shielded war droids.

Force lightning. A classic.

Not sure about telekinetic abilities, but I'm pretty certain they're on par with Yoda's at the very least.

However, I doubt they would actually fight.

OK, say Sidious killed Tara. Happy? :)

In truth, Sideous would bring Willow over to the Dark Side. or, at least try. Willow's reaction would vary depending on her level of corruption - she might join him and kill him later...or suck the power out of him right then and their.

I'm fairly certain that she'd explode from trying to drain Sidious' power. His own power decomposes his body enough to force him to take on a new clone form every few years.

either way, Darth Rosenburg is more than likely to win. (to note: before she achieved the level she did in "Two to Go" and "Grave", she was able to harm a dethrowned god. as Darth Rosenburg...she might be able to drive a god off.)

Glory didn't appear to have any kind of special magical powers, and her human form carried plenty of limitations.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2002-10-30 01:12am

See this is a hard one. Why? Because we have never seen how Darth Rosenberg would fare against another powerfull super powered person. I mean she ended up besting Ripper, but even then Ripper is no Darth Sidious. Darth Rosenberg has a lot of power, but I don't believe that she could easily best Darth Sidious.

First we know that force users (Obi-Wan, Yoda and Darth Tyranus and to some extent Darth Vader) can shield or block energy attacks (AOTC and TESB), but could Darth Rosenberg withstand a force storm?

Outcome: Uncertain at this point. At the my most optimistic; a draw, but I doubt it.

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2002-10-30 10:27am

very treu...we might have to wait till the end of the season to see how if she can hold her own against The First Evil (Honestly, if she can hold her own against a inter-dimensional being who literally is the concept of evil given corporeal form...then she can beat Sideous, if not...well, we're still left with how she handled herself.)

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2002-10-30 01:39pm

Sidious can literally destroy a planet at will. The ancient Sith Lords could cause stars to go supernova. Their power was bordering on ridiculous ... and they don't run out.

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2002-10-30 02:20pm

I don't know why, but part of me wonders whether this will degrade into an EU inclusion debate...I can see that happeneing...but I don't want it too. really, I don't.

Just a thought.

Oh, what to hell, I'll ruffle some feathers!

D.R. vs. Movie-Palpy = uncertain, likely D.R., but very close.

D.R. vs. EU Palpy = Palpy makes D.R. his bitch. he totally dominates.

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