Culture in ST

[Typhonis 1]

A culture vessel arrives through a wormhole how does the Star Trek universe in TNG deal with it?

[Alyeska]

A culture vessel arrives through a wormhole how does the Star Trek universe in TNG deal with it?

ST doesn't "deal" with the Culture ship at all. On the other hand the Culture ships decides to modify ST in such a way that the ST races don't even know that it happened, they think it was just natural.

[Shinova]

If you mean "deal with" as in eliminate...no way.

More like the Culture ship "deals with" the UFP. Then goes to "deal with" the rest of the non-omnipotent races, if it wanted to.

[Mr Bean]

Anything over 100 Meters from the Culture can take anything from SW on down with EASE

[jegs2]

A culture vessel arrives through a wormhole how does the Star Trek universe in TNG deal with it?

ST doesn't "deal" with the Culture ship at all. On the other hand the Culture ships decides to modify ST in such a way that the ST races don't even know that it happened, they think it was just natural.

From all I've heard about the Culture, that sounds feasible...

[Alyeska]

A culture vessel arrives through a wormhole how does the Star Trek universe in TNG deal with it?

ST doesn't "deal" with the Culture ship at all. On the other hand the Culture ships decides to modify ST in such a way that the ST races don't even know that it happened, they think it was just natural.

From all I've heard about the Culture, that sounds feasible...

Yep. If a single GSV were to enter the SW galaxy they would take control of the Emporer and all the other important people and start modifying the government until it was something that Culture felt benefited the people better.

[NecronLord]

It may have to wipe out the borg.

[Alyeska]

It may have to wipe out the borg.

Nah, with Effectors they would merely alter the Borg's mindset. Rather then a conquering swarm, they would become an evangilizing swarm trying to convince you to join them rather then forcing you to join them.

[Shinova]

Or with effectors the GSV brings the whole collective into its control. Or sets all the drones free.

[Anarchist Bunny]

There isn't enough left of the federation to spread over a cracker.

[Shinova]

Can't a drone take on the whole ST galaxy (excluding Q-like races) and win?

[Howedar]

Probably not. I don't think it has FTL. Besides that, I think that enough purpose-designed high yield weapons could probably destroy a drone without too much trouble.

[Sea Skimmer]

It may have to wipe out the borg.

Nah, with Effectors they would merely alter the Borg's mindset. Rather then a conquering swarm, they would become an evangilizing swarm trying to convince you to join them rather then forcing you to join them.

They'd also likely use their industrial capacity to help species they've harmed rebuild and open the transwarp network to all and generally be good boy scouts, minus the Religion thing

The GSV would very likely never fire a single shot.

[Shinova]

Question:


Aren't Culture fields/shields supposed to be infinite? And that even a weapon with a firepower rating of 9.9 followed by 1e1000000000000 zeroes tons couldn't even affect a Culture shield/field? Thus the reason why Culture people attack by displacing, effectors, and gridfire?

[GSV Use Psychology]

Probably not. I don't think it has FTL. Besides that, I think that enough purpose-designed high yield weapons could probably destroy a drone without too much trouble.

Actually atleast some military drones do have small warp drives.

[septesix]

Question:


Aren't Culture fields/shields supposed to be infinite? And that even a weapon with a firepower rating of 9.9 followed by 1e1000000000000 zeroes tons couldn't even affect a Culture shield/field? Thus the reason why Culture people attack by displacing, effectors, and gridfire?

No..

Most of the Culture ship has a Trapdoor system that instantly shunt any unwanted energy into Hyperspace. That's why no amount of energy fire will ever work. Fast Mind + Trapdoor means no weapon fire will ever actually reach the ship

Effector, Displaced Nanaholes and Gravity based weapon, on the other hand, are probably not affected by the Trapdoor and thus become the perfered weapon of choice.

[XaLEv]

Probably not. I don't think it has FTL. Besides that, I think that enough purpose-designed high yield weapons could probably destroy a drone without too much trouble.

Sisela Ythelus had a warp drive.

[The Nomad]

Questions :
1°) what is the efficiency of the Culture's warp with regard to ST's warp ( my guess is that it must be around 200 times faster than the highest warp factor used by Voyager, making it slower than transwarp, perhaps on par with low-grade Quantum Slipstream aka the Dauntless' one ) ? Is it realspace FTL or wormhole/spacefolding ?
2°) do displacers work on sentient beings ? I know for sure that they work on simple objects ( aka Sma's luggage in Use of Weapons ), but aren't they ethically challenging ? Do Culture's shields affect them ? Have we any clue about their capacity/range ?
3°) does an effector work both on computers and biological brains, or are they specialized types of effectors ? Are they hand-held effectors ?
4°) what are the Culture's favorite hand weapons ? ( Zakalwe's plasma rifle isn't from the Culture, is it ? ) Do they have personnal forcefields ?
5°) what's the English name of the small autoguided projectiles commonly used by the Culture ? In my book it is translated by something like "missile-knife" or "dagger-missile"
6°) are they detailed stats or pictures of Culture's ship ? I know from Use of Weapons that GCUs are 3 km in lenght, GSVs are 80 km in lenght, and ROUs must be between 300-350 m in length ( having a mass of 1 megaton )...

[NecronLord]

Question:


Aren't Culture fields/shields supposed to be infinite? And that even a weapon with a firepower rating of 9.9 followed by 1e1000000000000 zeroes tons couldn't even affect a Culture shield/field? Thus the reason why Culture people attack by displacing, effectors, and gridfire?

They also use fusion bombs {yes you heard that right}

[NecronLord]

Questions :
1°) what is the efficiency of the Culture's warp with regard to ST's warp ( my guess is that it must be around 200 times faster than the highest warp factor used by Voyager, making it slower than transwarp, perhaps on par with low-grade Quantum Slipstream aka the Dauntless' one ) ? Is it realspace FTL or wormhole/spacefolding ?

100,000C is considered fast

2°) do displacers work on sentient beings ? I know for sure that they work on simple objects ( aka Sma's luggage in Use of Weapons ), but aren't they ethically challenging ? Do Culture's shields affect them ? Have we any clue about their capacity/range ?

Yup they do
Theres a tiny risk of ending up in space or a random location or being dropped into hyperspace or coming back gridfired or someother nasty fate.
Don't know
Not really, though they can't do interstellar distances

3°) does an effector work both on computers and biological brains, or are they specialized types of effectors ? Are they hand-held effectors ?

They seem to work by inducing and or absorbing electrical current, so they work on both. never seen one, though a SC drone usually has them

4°) what are the Culture's favorite hand weapons ? ( Zakalwe's plasma rifle isn't from the Culture, is it ? ) Do they have personnal forcefields ?

They don't have hand weapons really anymore, they have personal armed escort drones and knife missiles

5°) what's the English name of the small autoguided projectiles commonly used by the Culture ? In my book it is translated by something
like "missile-knife" or "dagger-missile"

knife-missile

6°) are they detailed stats or pictures of Culture's ship ? I know from Use of Weapons that GCUs are 3 km in lenght, GSVs are 80 km in lenght, and ROUs must be between 300-350 m in length ( having a mass of 1 megaton )...

officially not really, the closest is possibly the ships on the book covers

[The Nomad]

Question:


Aren't Culture fields/shields supposed to be infinite? And that even a weapon with a firepower rating of 9.9 followed by 1e1000000000000 zeroes tons couldn't even affect a Culture shield/field? Thus the reason why Culture people attack by displacing, effectors, and gridfire?

They also use fusion bombs {yes you heard that right}

[wong]Yes but is this thermonuclear fusion ? You know theoretically it could be anything from M/AM annihilation to hypermatter to quantum phenomenons[/wong]
Or possibly it is just light artillery...

Anyway thanks for the answers !

[NecronLord]

Question:


Aren't Culture fields/shields supposed to be infinite? And that even a weapon with a firepower rating of 9.9 followed by 1e1000000000000 zeroes tons couldn't even affect a Culture shield/field? Thus the reason why Culture people attack by displacing, effectors, and gridfire?

They also use fusion bombs {yes you heard that right}

[wong]Yes but is this thermonuclear fusion ? You know theoretically it could be anything from M/AM annihilation to hypermatter to quantum phenomenons[/wong]
Or possibly it is just light artillery...

Anyway thanks for the answers !

True

[The Nomad]

Apparently Use of Weapons doesn't contain much data on the Culture's warfaring abilities ( except the "light units vaporize planets without effort and without main armament" thing ), I would like to know more about the few h-t weapons mentionned here :

*the gridfire is the use of an infinite energy in a finite volume of space, but what are its duration/range/form ( beam, etc )?
*effectors are used against low-tech ships and planets, but are Culture's ships and Minds affected by them ?
*how do they use displacers in combat ?
*"trapdoors" are mentioned in UOW, but as internal devices, are they external versions ?
*what are the defenses of Culture's ships against "special weapons" ( apparently they've got excellent shielding, but do they have to dodge and sneak weapons or ennemies of an equivalent tech ? )
*if 100 000 c is considered fast, how can they fight combats in several star systems in millisecond timescales ( according to a post in another thread, long ago )
*I find Sma quite interesting, don't you ? Probably as interesting as would be any woman of the Culture ...

[NecronLord]

Apparently Use of Weapons doesn't contain much data on the Culture's warfaring abilities ( except the "light units vaporize planets without effort and without main armament" thing ), I would like to know more about the few h-t weapons mentionned here :

*the gridfire is the use of an infinite energy in a finite volume of space, but what are its duration/range/form ( beam, etc )?

It links the target to the "Energy grid" (Banks invention)

*effectors are used against low-tech ships and planets, but are Culture's ships and Minds affected by them ?

Yup

*how do they use displacers in combat ?

They produce high energy plasma and then displace it into/next to the enemy

*"trapdoors" are mentioned in UOW, but as internal devices, are they external versions ?

Think they have external versions

*what are the defenses of Culture's ships against "special weapons" ( apparently they've got excellent shielding, but do they have to dodge and sneak weapons or ennemies of an equivalent tech ? )

They usually negotiate most of the eqiv tech are either similar to the culture, however the elder races are to the culture as the culture is to ST

*if 100 000 c is considered fast, how can they fight combats in several star systems in millisecond timescales ( according to a post in another thread, long ago )

Eh? never seen them do that they apparently have LY weapon ranges (though I've yet to find any quotes on that

*I find Sma quite interesting, don't you ? Probably as interesting as would be any woman of the Culture ...

Sma? who?

[The Nomad]

Sma? who?

Rasd-Coduresa Diziet Embless Sma da' Marenhide. Zakalwe's "friend". She appears in Use of Weapons and must be from Special Circumstances.

Zakalwe's comment : "You lubric bitch..." ( or something close )

It says it all, doesn't it ?

There are races way more powerful than the Culture ? Many ? I can't begin to imagine how powerful they can be... galaxy-killer, planetoid-sized light units, instantaneous drives, stuff like that...