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Berserk Mk.33 BOLO loose on Coruscant...

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A MK.33 BOLO has been set loose on Coruscant. For some irrelevant reason it is utterly convinced that every person on Coruscant is a mortal enemy of the Human race (Coruscantian humans are no exception - it believes them to be alien beings masquerading as humans, and therefor enemies).

Thus it goes on the rampage.

How much damage will it cause, how long will it last, and how can it be stopped?
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One shot from one of the Golan stations or a few passes by the planets fighters and its quite dead. Of course give the relatively scale, I'd wonder If the local police would think its anything more then some street gang's new toy.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:Of course give the relatively scale, I'd wonder If the local police would think its anything more then some street gang's new toy.
LMAO!

It's main guns are 5-6 megatons per second and its secondary armament hundreds of kilotons per second.

It could lay waste to hundreds of square miles of Coruscant before the authorities could react. Kill millions, possibly billions before being destroyed.

And due to the strength of its battlescreens (aka "shields") and armor, it would require a blast of such magnitude to destroy it that that blast would also destroy much of the surrounding area.

Actually it might just fire off the nuclear warhead with 20-ton strontium wrap to fuck up the whole atmosphere and make the planet uninhabitable.

To suggest that they would think it the "toy" of a "street gang" is perfectly absurd.
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It would still take just one shot from the orbiting battle stations, and ground based weponry might take it out first.
The strontium wrapped nuke would pose no real long-term threat, these people move oceans as symbolic gestures, and could probably generate a shield bubble around the nuke just after it went off to contain the radiation.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:Of course give the relatively scale, I'd wonder If the local police would think its anything more then some street gang's new toy.
LMAO!

It's main guns are 5-6 megatons per second and its secondary armament hundreds of kilotons per second.

It could lay waste to hundreds of square miles of Coruscant before the authorities could react. Kill millions, possibly billions before being destroyed.

And due to the strength of its battlescreens (aka "shields") and armor, it would require a blast of such magnitude to destroy it that that blast would also destroy much of the surrounding area.

Actually it might just fire off the nuclear warhead with 20-ton strontium wrap to fuck up the whole atmosphere and make the planet uninhabitable.

To suggest that they would think it the "toy" of a "street gang" is perfectly absurd.
Nice load of bull. Star Wars construction is far stronger then that of today's cities, and the Bolo would be crushed under millions of tons of debris of it started knocking down building. Even at 7 megatons per second its not even going to get one square mile before a battle station knocks it out.
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And need I also point out the fact that even individual civilians had hundreds of megatons of firepower at their fingertips such as the concussion missiles on the Falcon or the Slave I's armament. Then we have all the minor pirate group, which run around with multi megaton and gigaton range weapons and yet are considered an annoyance at most.
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Yes but it would take them a while to react and all that. By the time the orbital stations had recieved a distress call, found the offending Bolo, locked weapons, and destroyed it, it could already have killed billions of people and levelled hundreds or even thousands of square miles of Coruscant.

And it would require the orbiting stations to destroy it. Fighters it could just ignore. The highest figures or calcs for fighter firepower are from the AOTC ICS, and give the firepower of fighter cannon as 1kt. A Bolo Mk.XXXIII, which can absorb dozens of megatons of firepower, would laugh at the puny attacks of the starfighters, while blowing them out of the sky with its secondary weapons.

There is absolutely nothing in the way of SW ground forces that have been seen, that could stop the Bolo.

The only thing capable of stopping it would be the orbiting battle stations. Which requires such battlestations to be contacted, then go through the rigmarole of acquiring target, targeting, and firing etc. During which time, as I already said, the Bolo is laying down the smack.

Simple fact of the matter: The Bolo WILL kill billions and level at least a few hundred sq miles of Coruscant, and there is NOTHING the Coruscant authorities/defence forces can do to prevent that. They can only hope to limit the damage, not prevent it altogether.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:
Manji wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:Of course give the relatively scale, I'd wonder If the local police would think its anything more then some street gang's new toy.
LMAO!

It's main guns are 5-6 megatons per second and its secondary armament hundreds of kilotons per second.

It could lay waste to hundreds of square miles of Coruscant before the authorities could react. Kill millions, possibly billions before being destroyed.

And due to the strength of its battlescreens (aka "shields") and armor, it would require a blast of such magnitude to destroy it that that blast would also destroy much of the surrounding area.

Actually it might just fire off the nuclear warhead with 20-ton strontium wrap to fuck up the whole atmosphere and make the planet uninhabitable.

To suggest that they would think it the "toy" of a "street gang" is perfectly absurd.
Nice load of bull. Star Wars construction is far stronger then that of today's cities, and the Bolo would be crushed under millions of tons of debris of it started knocking down building. Even at 7 megatons per second its not even going to get one square mile before a battle station knocks it out.
You're full of shit.

Lets say that it takes one minute between iniation of the attack to the point where an orbital battlestation destroys it. (It would likely take considerably longer than this, but I'm being generous)

With a firepower for the primary 200cm hellbores of 6 MT/sec, the firepower for one minute would be 6 x 60 = 360. However, there are three 200cm hellbores on the Mk.XXXIII, so this makes 360 x 3 = 1,080. So a minutes firing using only the main hellbores would be slightly over a gigaton.

It doesn't matter how strong the construction materials are, a gigaton of firepower pumped into an urban environment with no energy sheilding to retard its progress is going to kill billions and wipe out many square miles of city (if dispersed properly, which the Bolo would do since the hellbores are big fething guns after all.)
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Everyone remember, this is Manji we're talking to. He seems to think that directed energy weapons act like nukes or some such bullshit. He thinks that fighters never carry missiles. He doesn't comprehend the fact that the Bolo will destroy itself simply by destroying an adjacent building and being crushed under the rubble.

Manji, add some 16" guns to that Bolo and then we'll talk.
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An orbital bombardment would destroy it.

Manji seems to be suggesting that they would be reluctant to do this due to the collateral damage that a bombardment strong enough to destroy the bolo would cause. But this isn't really a problem. A large ship could simply tractor beam the bolo up into space and then blow the shit out of it.
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Manji wrote: You're full of shit.

Lets say that it takes one minute between iniation of the attack to the point where an orbital battlestation destroys it. (It would likely take considerably longer than this, but I'm being generous)

With a firepower for the primary 200cm hellbores of 6 MT/sec, the firepower for one minute would be 6 x 60 = 360. However, there are three 200cm hellbores on the Mk.XXXIII, so this makes 360 x 3 = 1,080. So a minutes firing using only the main hellbores would be slightly over a gigaton.

It doesn't matter how strong the construction materials are, a gigaton of firepower pumped into an urban environment with no energy sheilding to retard its progress is going to kill billions and wipe out many square miles of city (if dispersed properly, which the Bolo would do since the hellbores are big fething guns after all.)
A few minutes at most before a wing fighters or a battlestation fire on your press peice of treadhead wank. And then it's some debris at the bottom of a smoking crater.

That's such bullshit.

For one thing, as far as I know a hellbore isn't a continous fire weapon. That cuts down on the firepower there.

Second of all it won't act like an airburst nuke.

Lastly, even if it did it wouldn't level miles. Remember, Star Wars has materials with order of magnitude more strength than anything we have.
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Lets say that it takes one minute between iniation of the attack to the point where an orbital battlestation destroys it. (It would likely take considerably longer than this, but I'm being generous)
Or a fighter just does a flyby and vapes it with concussion missles. Or it's knocked out by a few thermal detonators.
It doesn't matter how strong the construction materials are, a gigaton of firepower pumped into an urban environment with no energy sheilding to retard its progress is going to kill billions and wipe out many square miles of city (if dispersed properly, which the Bolo would do since the hellbores are big fething guns after all.)
A few billion dead is not going to nick Coruscant's total population. Furthermore, there are those huge construction droids, capable of ripping up entire sections of cities and churning out new buildings 24/7.

So, basically, the Bolo goes and kills a few billion people before a rapid response team or some pissed off civilian with access to a starship blows it to all hell. Imperial cleanup crews save as many people as they can and rebuild the wrecked parts of the city in a few weeks, at most.
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Cyril wrote:
Lets say that it takes one minute between iniation of the attack to the point where an orbital battlestation destroys it. (It would likely take considerably longer than this, but I'm being generous)
Or a fighter just does a flyby and vapes it with concussion missles. Or it's knocked out by a few thermal detonators.
Concussion missiles are anti-fighter ordnance. A few KT at most. Peanuts to a Bolo.

Besides which, the Bolo's defensive and CIWS weaponry would waste the missiles before they reached it.
It doesn't matter how strong the construction materials are, a gigaton of firepower pumped into an urban environment with no energy sheilding to retard its progress is going to kill billions and wipe out many square miles of city (if dispersed properly, which the Bolo would do since the hellbores are big fething guns after all.)
A few billion dead is not going to nick Coruscant's total population. Furthermore, there are those huge construction droids, capable of ripping up entire sections of cities and churning out new buildings 24/7.

So, basically, the Bolo goes and kills a few billion people before a rapid response team or some pissed off civilian with access to a starship blows it to all hell. Imperial cleanup crews save as many people as they can and rebuild the wrecked parts of the city in a few weeks, at most.
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IIRC, concussion missiles range from KT to GT levels. Then there's the thermal detonators, and whatever the local garrisons can throw at it.
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Manji wrote: Concussion missiles are anti-fighter ordnance. A few KT at most. Peanuts to a Bolo.

Besides which, the Bolo's defensive and CIWS weaponry would waste the missiles before they reached it.
Considering these are the missiles which do 72000 g turns and can be conceivably programmed for evasive maneuvers and they in fact carry multiple MT payloads...
So, basically, the Bolo goes and kills a few billion people before a rapid response team or some pissed off civilian with access to a starship blows it to all hell. Imperial cleanup crews save as many people as they can and rebuild the wrecked parts of the city in a few weeks, at most.
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May not even get that far. Four LAATs gang up on it slamming missile after missile into its huge carcass and letting the Bolo have it with composite energy weapons (sustained fire mind you) until it gives up the ghost and dies. Sure, Bolo may shoot down one or two LAATs but so WHAT? BFD.
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Don't bother, Manji is lost to any and all reason. Hell, I can almost here him masturbating to the Bolo books right now.
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WTF is the Bolo anyway? And can you tell Manji to fuck the fuck off? he's dishonoring my image of one of the most bad-ass manga characters ever.
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Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote:WTF is the Bolo anyway? And can you tell Manji to fuck the fuck off? he's dishonoring my image of one of the most bad-ass manga characters ever.
Scroll down some, there's a thread that should still be on the first page that covers it. Basically a massive tank.
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http://users.stargate.net/~whkeith/htm/bolo.htm

here is a direct link, think of it like a larger XR-85 tank droid, I am sure everybody know what the OGRE cybertanks are as well.
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Bah. Tau Hammerheads look cooler. Necron Monoliths look cooler. Hell, GROTS look cooler.
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don't forget the Baneblade and the leman Russ Vanquisher :twisted:
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Manji wrote: Concussion missiles are anti-fighter ordnance. A few KT at most. Peanuts to a Bolo.
Concussions missiles are rated at least as high as 190MT, according to the AOTC ICS.
Besides which, the Bolo's defensive and CIWS weaponry would waste the missiles before they reached it.
At which point they may or may not go boom and waste the Bolo anyway.

Doesn't help the Bolo against orbital bombardment, in any case.
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Manji's fled.
I can imagine him jacking off to an opened book and moaning

" They say you can't do it, Bolo, those nasty widdle men... But we know better right? That SW missiles are just a few KT and there construction material is tissue paper right? Ahhh yessss of course. My Preciousssss..."
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Even with megaton weapons, it couldn't do much damage to the planet's intersfracture. It would also be overwhelmed by forces in 30 minutes tops.
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Presuming that a shield isn't projected around the Bolo to contain the damage almost instantly.
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