Starcraft vs AOTC

T-1000 · Post by **T-1000** » 2002-12-05 05:31pm

Gather the ending clone and droid armies from the end of AOTC, and put them against an army of Terrans, Zerg, and Protoss.

No oribtal fire support. Give both one hour time to prepare any necesary ground defenses.

Who wins? And how cool would this be to watch?

No jedi BTW. Just clones and droids from AOTC.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2002-12-05 05:55pm

T-1000 wrote:Gather the ending clone and droid armies from the end of AOTC, and put them against an army of Terrans, Zerg, and Protoss.

No oribtal fire support. Give both one hour time to prepare any necesary ground defenses.

Who wins? And how cool would this be to watch?

No jedi BTW. Just clones and droids from AOTC.

The Zerg would eventually win but it would be some fight

Captain tycho · Post by **Captain tycho** » 2002-12-05 05:58pm

Isolder74 wrote:
T-1000 wrote:Gather the ending clone and droid armies from the end of AOTC, and put them against an army of Terrans, Zerg, and Protoss.

No oribtal fire support. Give both one hour time to prepare any necesary ground defenses.

Who wins? And how cool would this be to watch?

No jedi BTW. Just clones and droids from AOTC.
The Zerg would eventually win but it would be some fight

Do the Zerg have any Hives near by?
If the Zerg do not have any Hives, SC is screwed.
Terran guns cannot penetrate clone trooper armor.
The protoss would be the most serious threat, due to their psionic powers and powerful Dragoons and Reavers.
But the clones would win in the end.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-12-05 06:14pm

Anything not dealing with ST or SW vs ST goes in the Other Sci-Fi Forum.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-12-05 06:52pm

Wrong Forum, victory depends on force composition.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-12-05 06:57pm

DUMBASS!

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-12-05 07:01pm

The Starcraft forces get crushed. The clonetroopers would cut them to ribbons. There would be causualities but they're too powerful for the Starcraft forces. The heavy armor would utterly fuck over any Zerg or Protoss.

Zaku-chan · Post by **Zaku-chan** » 2002-12-05 07:06pm

I think the Clones take it. They a big technology advantage, both in the sky and on the ground. Oh, they'll take plenty of casualties, but they'll ultimately come out on top.

Jim Raynor · Post by **Jim Raynor** » 2002-12-05 07:41pm

Orbital fire support is banned, but the unique thing about this fight is that the capships from both sides are all atmosphere capable. So can Battlecruisers, Carriers, Arbiters and Acclamators be used, or does the rule mean no ships at all?

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2002-12-05 07:43pm

If this is Brood Wars, then the Protoss get DT...

The Protoss might stand a chance; I'm not sure about the Zerg. Terran... Depends if their weapons can penetrate the armor. But remember, there is one HR to prepare. Have you ever played no-rush 1hr game? It's insane... Everybody has a ton of defense.

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2002-12-05 09:03pm

Psi Storm can rip apart Cap ship armor. I don't think the clones or walkers would be able t o stand up to that.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-12-05 09:36pm

BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:Psi Storm can rip apart Cap ship armor. I don't think the clones or walkers would be able t o stand up to that.

But it doesn't kill the instantly and any Templar is then going to be high prioirity target. Drop some concussion missles on him and he'd be dead.

The armor the clones armies have will allow them to cut through the starcraft armies easily. And none of them have the firwepower to wipe out the clone army in return.

Jim Raynor · Post by **Jim Raynor** » 2002-12-05 09:47pm

Stormbringer wrote:
BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:Psi Storm can rip apart Cap ship armor. I don't think the clones or walkers would be able t o stand up to that.
But it doesn't kill the instantly and any Templar is then going to be high prioirity target. Drop some concussion missles on him and he'd be dead.

The armor the clones armies have will allow them to cut through the starcraft armies easily. And none of them have the firwepower to wipe out the clone army in return.

Are you referring to the clonetroopers' body armor, or their walkers? If you're talking about body armor, then I agree that it's good, but not THAT good. IIRC, a dragoon can disintegrate a human in a single shot, and a hydralisk's spines can penetrate reinforced steel.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-12-05 09:53pm

Jim Raynor wrote:Are you referring to the clonetroopers' body armor, or their walkers? If you're talking about body armor, then I agree that it's good, but not THAT good. IIRC, a dragoon can disintegrate a human in a single shot, and a hydralisk's spines can penetrate reinforced steel.

The walkers in that particular quote.

A Dragoon doesn't have that much power. They kill quickly but not that quickly. And I doubt a hydrlisk's spine would do shit. Remember, stormy armor is much tougher than steel.

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-12-05 09:57pm

Don't forget a Dragoon's weaponry is piercing. There's one cutscene (probably the same one Raynor's talking about) where a dragoon killed two men standing about 3 meters apart witht he same bolt, and another single shot blew up a vehicle.

THis suggests that Dragoon guns are anti-armor weaponry, at least.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-12-05 09:58pm

Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote:Don't forget a Dragoon's weaponry is piercing. There's one cutscene (probably the same one Raynor's talking about) where a dragoon killed two men standing about 3 meters apart witht he same bolt, and another single shot blew up a vehicle.

THis suggests that Dragoon guns are anti-armor weaponry, at least.

True but that brings us back to the old cutscenes crap.

I don't doubt a dragoon could take down a clonetrooper but as like as not it would die in a hail of blaster bolts.

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-12-05 10:01pm

True. Dragoons ARE bigger targets, but don't forget the shielding.
Though enough clonetroopers focusing fire (4 or 5... those guns are powerful) would probably make mincemeat of them.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-12-05 10:17pm

He said no ORBITAL fire support. All the acclamators are capable of atmospheric fligh, and probably combat as well. They could use thier lighter point defense gun to wreak havoke, or they could go up a few miles and bombard from their

But nitpicking aside...I see the arena rescue sene happening again

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-12-05 10:21pm

Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote:True. Dragoons ARE bigger targets, but don't forget the shielding.
Though enough clonetroopers focusing fire (4 or 5... those guns are powerful) would probably make mincemeat of them.

Yeah, a few rounds would take down anything short of a reaver. And when you figure in the heavy weapons it's a slaughter. Like I said, sheer firepower will decide it. The Clone army can kill anything with a few shots and that'll devastate any of the armies sent against them.

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-12-05 10:22pm

Orbital fire support is banned, but the unique thing about this fight is that the capships from both sides are all atmosphere capable. So can Battlecruisers, Carriers, Arbiters and Acclamators be used, or does the rule mean no ships at all?

The acclamators would face large fleets of battlecruisrs and carriers, but should win in the end, however the SC warships will buy the ground forces enough time, so that it will be decided on the ground.

Clonetroopers still win though

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-12-05 10:29pm

starfury wrote:
Orbital fire support is banned, but the unique thing about this fight is that the capships from both sides are all atmosphere capable. So can Battlecruisers, Carriers, Arbiters and Acclamators be used, or does the rule mean no ships at all?
The acclamators would face large fleets of battlecruisrs and carriers, but should win in the end, however the SC warships will buy the ground forces enough time, so that it will be decided on the ground.

And when pray tell, have the Starcraft forces ever demonstrated firepower that would let them do anything other than be afraid and die when faced by an Acclamator?

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-12-05 10:31pm

Stormbringer wrote:
starfury wrote:
Orbital fire support is banned, but the unique thing about this fight is that the capships from both sides are all atmosphere capable. So can Battlecruisers, Carriers, Arbiters and Acclamators be used, or does the rule mean no ships at all?
The acclamators would face large fleets of battlecruisrs and carriers, but should win in the end, however the SC warships will buy the ground forces enough time, so that it will be decided on the ground.
And when pray tell, have the Starcraft forces ever demonstrated firepower that would let them do anything other than be afraid and die when faced by an Acclamator?

When they BDZ a planet in minutes. I'll just repost somthing from one of the novels that was posted earlier.

"Pull back to a safe distance. Scan on Maximum." said Mengsk. "Gentlemen, you may remain if you want to see the last act of this particularly tawdry passion play."

Neither Mike nor Raynor moved, and Mengsk turned back to the screen. The huge orange ball of Mar Sara loomed over them, a few white clouds scattered high across it's northern hemisphere. Yet most of the orange surface was now mottled, spoiled. Overrun by the creep, and the things that lived in it.

The very surface of the land seemed to pulsate and bubble, heaving like a living being. The creep had even spread over the oceans in broad mats, writhing like living carpets of algae.

There was nothing human left on the planet. Not alive, at any rate. A flash blossomed to one side of the planetary disk, and Mike knew that the Protoss had arrived. Their Lightning ships warped into being. A flash of blue-white electricity, and then they were there. The golden carriers with their moth attendants, and metallic bat-winged creations that wove among the larger ships. They were breathtaking and deadly, forces of war raised to the level of an art form.

Mengsk spoke softly into his throat mike, and Mike could feel the engines engage. The terrorist leader was prepared to get out at the first sight that the Protoss had nocited them.

He need not have worried. The Protoss were completely intent on the diseased planet beneath them. Hatchways opened up in the bottoms of the larger ships, and great beams of energy, so intense as to be colorless, lanced downward toward the surface. The aliens laid down a withering barrage against the planet beneath. Where the energy beams struck, they burned. The sky itself curdled as the beams pirced through the atmospheric envlope. Air itself was torn away from the planet by the force of the blows. And where the Beams struck the surface, they erupted, boiling the ground where they struck, uprooting both the creep-infested lands and those that had not yet been infecte. Deadly rainbow radiation, more brilliant that Mike had ever seen, spiraled out from the impact points, churning earth and water mercilessly, distorting the matter of the planet itself.

Then other ships began firing thinner beams with surgical accuracy, adding to the barrage in places. The cities, Mike realized, They were targeting the cities and making sure that nothing could survive there. Any place of human settlement, including, he knew, the Jacobs Installation itself.

They had cut their timing very close indeed, he thought, and his stomach gave an uneasy lurch.

One of the pulsating beams punched through the crust itself, and the ground erupted in a volcanic upwelling. Magma pushed to the surface, consuming everything that had been uprooted by the energy beams. Most of the world's atmosphere was burning now, torn away from the orb in a veil that trailed it in orbit, and what was left spiraled in hurricanes and tornadoes, until destroyed by more beams. Now, red volcanic glows covered the northern hemisphere of Mar Sara like welts. The remainder of the land heaved in a deadly rainbow. Nothing could survive the assault, human or otherwise."

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2002-12-05 10:36pm

The Terrans will produce nothing but Ghosts, Science Vessles, and Medics, the Protoss will go with Templar, and Scouts, the Zerg with Hydralisk, Lurkurs, and Defilers.

Mix, stir, shake, and what do we have?

Units that can disable any mechanical unit for some time, units that can take out all of a target's shields in one blast, units that causes a target to sprout several decoys, units that can attack from a hidden position, units that heal, and good old fashoned Hydralisk/Scout smackdown.

No, seriously. Lockdown and EMP Shockwave will SCREW the Clone army like no tomorrow.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-12-05 10:43pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:He said no ORBITAL fire support. All the acclamators are capable of atmospheric fligh, and probably combat as well. They could use thier lighter point defense gun to wreak havoke, or they could go up a few miles and bombard from their

But nitpicking aside...I see the arena rescue sene happening again

If we bring major ships into then the Protoss could bring a fleet of Arbiters, freeze everything and then recall to orbit. Then blast the planet and flee.

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2002-12-05 11:26pm

Assuming no ships allowed... Terran goes mass tanks and ghosts, then builds those nukes

Protoss goes Reaver, Templar, Dark Templar, and Archon. Funnest part would be Zerg, where they infest a Terran Command center, churning out Infested Terrans

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