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How does Stargate SG-1 tech compare to the rest?

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How does the advanced tech on Stargate SG-1 compare to the tech found in Babylon 5, Starwars, and Star Trek?

If people wanna compare the standard Earth tech used in the show in addition to the alien tech feel free.

Facts I know about SG-1 tech.

USAF was able to make a 2 1 GT Nukes missles by using a material called Nequadria, the same material which the Stargates are made of.

Go'ould Shields on a pyriamid ship are easily able to withstand a 1 GT blast.

Go'ould ships are capable of traveling between 2 systems in a period of 24 hours. (I think this is the correct time, though it could have been 48. I also do not know the distance between the two systems so it is impossible to derive an average speed, at least from what i know.)

Gray Warships posses a weapon with has the ability to dematerialize large amount of matter in a short period of time. This includes metallic and organic materials. Large buildings composed of metal were dematerialized in mere seconds on screen, along with soldiers and metallic equipment.

Gray Warships are capable of traveling between two systems in a period of minutes. Again this is of limited value because we do not know the distance between the ship traveled in this period of time.

Travel via Stargate is very rapid, usually much less then a minute.

Stargates have a very long range, they can reach other galaxies.


From what I know of the show, ship travel time and weapon/shield strength appear to be stronger then ST and B5 equivlents based on the observed firepower. SW firepower is obviosly much more powerful then B5 or ST tech so it is difficult to make any definate comparisions with the limited knowledge I have. Anyone who knows more is free to contribute.

In terms of Propulsion ST and B5 appear to be outclassed but it is difficult to be sure as we do not know the exact speed of the ships seen in the SG-1 series. Without this knowledge we cannot know if SWs propulsion is less then, equivelent to, or superior to the ships seen by SG-1.

The Stargates obviously have a rate of transportation far exceeding the speeds of any of the vessels seen in the other series. They would be of limited value of any conflict though, as the relevent gate on a planet could be quickly dismantled or destroyed (if its location was known).

If anyone knows more then this feel f ree to contribue you knowledge.

Also please feel free to debate the relative strength of SG-1 to the rest of the previously mentioned series, I personally think it woudl be alot of fun to do so.
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The shields never took a one-gigaton blast, the missile smashed to derbies against them without exploding. There was no blast at all.
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One other thing.

Direct dialogue quotes and some quick math from the episode where SG1's stolen ship gets thrown into another galaxy would indicate there FTL varies very roughly between 10C and over 1000C
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I think your right about the Nukes. Does anyone have any solid figures for weapon energy levels, or propulsion speeds? Both Go'ould and Grey, im really curious here.
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info on the Asgard (greys)
1 of their ships was enough to seriously threaten around 3 Go'ould ships, enough to make them retreat without firing a shot.
Their hyperdrive can take them between their galaxy and the Milky Way in around 8 minutes
They can create time dilation devices around the size of a fridge freezer that can affect a roughly Earth sized planet and a certain amount of area around it, not sure how far though. Made time change so that 1 day outside the field equaled abut 100 years inside it.
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We know very little of the calcs of SG-1 races...except maybe the Goa'uld, so all information about battle power must revolve around them. ie. we know that the Asgard could easily wipe them out excpet when they were pre=occupied with the replicator threat. Also the Tollan were able to become a threat to the Gou'uld until Anubis developed weapons and shields with the means and ability to attack them.
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BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:How does the advanced tech on Stargate SG-1 compare to the tech found in Babylon 5, Starwars, and Star Trek?

If people wanna compare the standard Earth tech used in the show in addition to the alien tech feel free.

Facts I know about SG-1 tech.

USAF was able to make a 2 1 GT Nukes missles by using a material called Nequadria, the same material which the Stargates are made of.
The gate element is called naquadah. Nequadria is a different, more powerful and unstable material used to power one of the USAF hybrid fighters. It was found on the world where Jonas Quinn came from. What was the GT nuke made from?

As for the rest, I'm not too sure on.

Though, the replicators are pretty advanced. And even more dangerous than the Borg, IMO. Though they do have a weak point.
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A Big Flying Fish wrote:info on the Asgard (greys)
1 of their ships was enough to seriously threaten around 3 Go'ould ships, enough to make them retreat without firing a shot.
Their hyperdrive can take them between their galaxy and the Milky Way in around 8 minutes
They can create time dilation devices around the size of a fridge freezer that can affect a roughly Earth sized planet and a certain amount of area around it, not sure how far though. Made time change so that 1 day outside the field equaled abut 100 years inside it.
Their 'subspace' (brainbug alert) transmissions can reach thought the known universe.

The Time Dialation Device generated a field of 0.16 Light Years.

The effect was to slow time within it by 10^4.

It was encased in a solid neutronium(issues here, as said structure contained a microscopic crack :roll: ) shell.

Their weapons tech is severley lacking in comparison to their other technology, though in their origninal appearance (Thor's chariot) Their weapons were inteded to function in a similar manner to Necron Gauss Weapons (which rip the bonds in the target apart) however due to budget they could only do an NDF type effect for the canon.
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neoolong wrote:
BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:How does the advanced tech on Stargate SG-1 compare to the tech found in Babylon 5, Starwars, and Star Trek?

If people wanna compare the standard Earth tech used in the show in addition to the alien tech feel free.

Facts I know about SG-1 tech.

USAF was able to make a 2 1 GT Nukes missles by using a material called Nequadria, the same material which the Stargates are made of.
The gate element is called naquadah. Nequadria is a different, more powerful and unstable material used to power one of the USAF hybrid fighters. It was found on the world where Jonas Quinn came from. What was the GT nuke made from?

As for the rest, I'm not too sure on.

Though, the replicators are pretty advanced. And even more dangerous than the Borg, IMO. Though they do have a weak point.
It was a Naquadah enhanced ICBM.

They borg aren't very dangerous.
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IIRC, Naquada and Nequadria are both very unstable and thus powerful substances. If they were used as weapons more often (in a few cases they were) the results would be astounding. I do recall something about a G'auld ship surviving a GT level blast, I believe I made a post aboutit, some time ago.

And theres the Tokra (I'm pretty sure) which developed some super-cool weapon of mass destruction that could travel through any substance.
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No. The GT blast never took place. The missiles were smashed by the sheilds. The only Tok'Ra WMD I can think of is a gas, which affects only Goa'uld (and themselves)
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Stargate Movieverse still kicks everyones ass. The gate connects to a galaxy billions upon billions of LY away, and Ra's starship travelled untold distance in mere hours. And by untold, I mean numerous galaxies. Take THAT! :p

Oh, and lets not forget that the ship Ra was in was a mere captains yacht for the Boat of a Million Years which had a side length of 20 miles. :)
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I always thought the nukes were 200MT each, in the ep where they hit the Goa'uld ships?
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Sothis wrote:I always thought the nukes were 200MT each, in the ep where they hit the Goa'uld ships?
I believe the 200mt quotes are from Carter when shes describing the ~Goauld bombardment of the alternate earth.
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kojikun wrote:Stargate Movieverse still kicks everyones ass. The gate connects to a galaxy billions upon billions of LY away, and Ra's starship travelled untold distance in mere hours. And by untold, I mean numerous galaxies. Take THAT! :p

Oh, and lets not forget that the ship Ra was in was a mere captains yacht for the Boat of a Million Years which had a side length of 20 miles. :)
So it could go real fast...that proves what?
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kojikun wrote:Stargate Movieverse still kicks everyones ass. The gate connects to a galaxy billions upon billions of LY away, and Ra's starship travelled untold distance in mere hours. And by untold, I mean numerous galaxies. Take THAT! :p

Oh, and lets not forget that the ship Ra was in was a mere captains yacht for the Boat of a Million Years which had a side length of 20 miles. :)
So it could go real fast...that proves what?

If the SW Empire were to attack the Stargate people, they could simply travel some galaxies away and live there. I do not recall Imperial hyperdrives being that fast.
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The replicators could probably pose a serious threat to nearly every scifi universe, given a few days to take control of some tech.
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kojikun wrote:Stargate Movieverse still kicks everyones ass. The gate connects to a galaxy billions upon billions of LY away, and Ra's starship travelled untold distance in mere hours. And by untold, I mean numerous galaxies. Take THAT! :p

Oh, and lets not forget that the ship Ra was in was a mere captains yacht for the Boat of a Million Years which had a side length of 20 miles. :)
So it could go real fast...that proves what?

If the SW Empire were to attack the Stargate people, they could simply travel some galaxies away and live there. I do not recall Imperial hyperdrives being that fast.
But if Stargate weapons cannot penetrate SW shields, what does that matter?
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Howedar wrote:The replicators could probably pose a serious threat to nearly every scifi universe, given a few days to take control of some tech.
But thst's the thing: the need ships to disable SW ships and take the tech...so it has to be a ship of superior quality. And if it is superior, why take a SW ship and where would it come from? A paradow...kinda.
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[quote]But thst's the thing: the need ships to disable SW ships and take the tech...so it has to be a ship of superior quality. And if it is superior, why take a SW ship and where would it come from? A paradow...kinda.[/quote]

Actually, that's not true. The Replicators don't just commandeer the ships they take over, they vastly improve them. For instance, they souped up the hyperdrive on Apophis's mothership so much that a trip that should've taken 50+ years took only a few minutes.
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Morning Star wrote:
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Morning Star wrote: So it could go real fast...that proves what?

If the SW Empire were to attack the Stargate people, they could simply travel some galaxies away and live there. I do not recall Imperial hyperdrives being that fast.
But if Stargate weapons cannot penetrate SW shields, what does that matter?
You just leave your enemies behind and settle down somewhere else and live relatively comfortably, secure in the knowledge that it'll take your enemies at least centuries to reach where you are.

Unless SG1 side is supposed to fight SW, then it's different.
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Well, in the novels the Boat of a Million Years did blow up a planet (but not without the aid of the stargate. by targetting the gate with primary weapons, all of the energy stored in the gate was released in a single moment)

This would suggest that they quite easilly could build planet destroying weapons, given that their most common planet-to-planet method of transportation is capable of doing so. The fact that they can store that much energy in such a small space (something the size of a pickup truck) would also indicate that they could devestate a Death Star II with little more then their transport ships.

But I'm talking movieverse not the pathetic SG1 universe
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Morning Star wrote:But if Stargate weapons cannot penetrate SW shields, what does that matter?
A remote-piloted Pyramid ship could, at full speed, be kamikazed into an SSD... that's hurt, even with the shields.

Also, I just watched the SG movie-- the "blaster staffs" that the Horus and Anubis Guards used struck with what looked liked force equivilent roughly to a grenade blast. Pretty decent, so I'd guess they're at least comperable to heavy blaster rifles from SW...
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Ahhh, didn't think of it that way...
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Morning Star wrote:But if Stargate weapons cannot penetrate SW shields, what does that matter?
I must have missed the bit where they couldn't. :)
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