Cowboy Bebop vs Firefly

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-01-02 09:17pm

--Throw your weight behind a campaign that has a real shot at succeeding and supports an already excellant and established sci-fi show.

Save Firefly!--

Cowboys in space done wrong. What a lovely thing to save. Even Cowboy Bebop did it better and that was a lower budget animation. e_e

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-01-02 09:20pm

Firefly is far superior to Cowboy Bebop. Don't make me hurt you.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-01-02 09:34pm

HemlockGrey wrote:Firefly is far superior to Cowboy Bebop. Don't make me hurt you.

Don't try it buddy. I'm on his side. Cowboy Bebop was much, much better than Firefly was. Better, more distinctive characters and a lot of the wit and humor that Firefly lacked at times.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-01-02 09:35pm

Where I come from, them's fighting words.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-01-02 09:36pm

HemlockGrey wrote:Where I come from, them's fighting words.

Oh, are they? I'm not impressed.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-01-02 09:40pm

Unfortunate for you. I find it quite difficult to search any Firefly episode(with the exception of 'The Train Job' which was the network's fault) and not find ample wit, humor, and drama.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-01-02 09:43pm

HemlockGrey wrote:Unfortunate for you. I find it quite difficult to search any Firefly episode(with the exception of 'The Train Job' which was the network's fault) and not find ample wit, humor, and drama.

It had it's moments, but they were moments rather than interwoven like Buffy and Angel at their best. It was good, better than anything else in production at the time, but it was really a let down compared to what it could have been.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-01-02 09:44pm

Elaborate, please.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-01-02 09:50pm

HemlockGrey wrote:Elaborate, please.

How so? I just don't think it was lacking. There just wasn't the mix of elements that I would have liked to see. It just didn't seem like a Joos Whedon show.

And the characters just never seemed as real and three dimensional as the Bebop crew does. They just didn't develop enough for me; they just stayed too carboard cut-outish.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-01-02 09:52pm

And the characters just never seemed as real and three dimensional as the Bebop crew does. They just didn't develop enough for me; they just stayed too carboard cut-outish.

The show had 11 episodes, shown out of order. With that in mind, you really can't judge character development.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-01-02 09:57pm

HemlockGrey wrote:
And the characters just never seemed as real and three dimensional as the Bebop crew does. They just didn't develop enough for me; they just stayed too carboard cut-outish.
The show had 11 episodes, shown out of order. With that in mind, you really can't judge character development.

I'll grant you that but Crusade did a better job than Firefly did and it had a worse problems. And Cowboy Bebop has only a little more time in total and did a better job as well.

I'm not saying Firefly wasn't good but itcould have been a lot better IMO.

Jadeite · Post by **Jadeite** » 2003-01-03 12:49am

Firefly is far superior to Cowboy Bebop. Don't make me hurt you.

.......

Burn the Heretic!!

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-01-03 01:08am

The difference between Firefly and Bebop, is that when Bebop was taken off the station that first picked it up in Japan, another one picked it up. Firefly is gonna fade away since UPN is probably sick of picking up leftover sci fi television shows.

I tell you what though, if Firefly is to be spared then bring back SAAB, a better show by far.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-01-03 01:37am

I must be the only one on this board who has never watched a single smidgen of either Cowboy Bebop or Firefly.

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Dark Primus · Post by **Dark Primus** » 2003-01-03 06:41am

Shinova wrote:I must be the only one on this board who has never watched a single smidgen of either Cowboy Bebop or Firefly.

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Nope, you are not the only one.

Glocksman · Post by **Glocksman** » 2003-01-03 08:19am

Make that three people.

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-01-03 10:44am

I think it's time to blow this joint, get everybody and their stuff together.

OK, 3,2,1, let's jam.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2003-01-03 10:51am

Has anyone else seen the "Addicted to Stress" music video for Cowboy Bebop? Not sure if that's the actual song title, but it's the most memorable phrase.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-01-03 10:55am

Glocksman wrote:Make that three people.

You're all a bunch of heathens.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2003-01-03 12:19pm

I never saw Firefly, but I think that Cowboy Bebop is vastly overrated. People have been saying it's the Number One Anime, when it doesn't come even close.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-01-03 12:22pm

Liked it better than EVA...and what little I saw of Firefly...it needed a bit more oomph...some good stuff but not enough of it.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-01-03 02:26pm

Why Bebop is better then Firefly:

1 - Good Music
2 - Doesn't try too hard to be cool
3 - Set in very well thought out places (no cowboys on horseback or people burning others on a stake for being a witch even tho THEY live on another planet)
4 - Ed.
5 - Ein.
6 - Ed and Ein.

Need I say more? XP

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-01-03 02:34pm

kojikun wrote:Why Bebop is better then Firefly:

1 - Good Music
2 - Doesn't try too hard to be cool
3 - Set in very well thought out places (no cowboys on horseback or people burning others on a stake for being a witch even tho THEY live on another planet)
4 - Ed.
5 - Ein.
6 - Ed and Ein.

Need I say more? XP

Yes.

7) Faye Valentine
8) The Bebop
9) Spike

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2003-01-03 02:50pm

10) Spike's 'fro.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2003-01-03 02:53pm

11) The ending.

Now I may not care much for Bebop, but the ending kicked ass, especially since they had most of the series steadily building to that point.