Least useful security force/troops
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Least useful security force/troops
A generic SF ship of 1km in length will be boarded by several thousand generic SF Evil Zombies. Which security force would you least want to defend the ship?
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Considering that the stormtroopers have a pretty fantastic success rate compared to all the others listed (the Battle of Geonosis, successfully taking the Tantive IV, the Battle of Hoth), they probably shouldn't be on the list.
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Stormies are on the list because they have terrible accuracy when shooting at major characters. It's only extras that they can hit reliably.Durandal wrote:Considering that the stormtroopers have a pretty fantastic success rate compared to all the others listed (the Battle of Geonosis, successfully taking the Tantive IV, the Battle of Hoth), they probably shouldn't be on the list.
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Same for all of the above, isn't it?Enlightenment wrote:
Stormies are on the list because they have terrible accuracy when shooting at major characters. It's only extras that they can hit reliably.
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Not really. Redshirts can't even hit extras reliably.Vympel wrote:Same for all of the above, isn't it?
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Ahem, Redshirts have VERY good accuracy. Just watch the series again with the ground battles.
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Redshirts get killed a lot on the ground, but I think they're fairly safe on a ship. Either way though, they'd waste TNG Klingons.
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Actually in Nemesis they hardly fired a shot.Darth Garden Gnome wrote:"The series" is pretty big. Any specific episodes/battles of interest?Alyeska wrote:Ahem, Redshirts have VERY good accuracy. Just watch the series again with the ground battles.
And I must say I wasnotimpressed by redshirt accuracy in Nemesis.....
In First Contact and multiple episodes of TNG, DS9, and VGR the Redshirts have very good accuracy. Redshirts may die easy, but they have good accuracy. Remans and Klingons are about the worst soldiers.
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UFP Redshirts
They tend to be a little too fragile. Phasers might work well against Zombies but their appaling gear and tactics will work against them.
B&B-era Klingon knife-wielding morons
They're fucked. Against any sort of zombie they're a horrible force. You need range not sharp bits of metal.
Imperial Storm Troopers
Damn good. They're accuracy varies a bit but over all a good choice. And blaster would give any oppenent a hell of a time.
Narn troops ("CHARGE!!!")
If you can keep them under control they're good. They do have a bit of a bloodlust problem to worry about.
Minbari quarterstaff-wielding morons
Utterly fucked. Same problem basically as the Klingons. But then again the Minbari do fight with other weapons but we have no canon examples to guage tactics by, only duels of limited actions.
Earth Alliance 'security'
They aren't brilliant but they'll get the job done. The PPG has decent if not spectacular firepower and they have decent equipments and tactics.
Jem'hadar
Utter fucked. They're idiots with a serious drug problem.
AOTC-era Jedi
They'd cut a swath through almost any zombie force you'd care to name.
B5 Rangers (aka quaterstaff-wielding morons pt. 2)
I'd take the Rangers. They do use other weapons than the "fighting pike". I'd take them but I'd want to see the gear first.
They tend to be a little too fragile. Phasers might work well against Zombies but their appaling gear and tactics will work against them.
B&B-era Klingon knife-wielding morons
They're fucked. Against any sort of zombie they're a horrible force. You need range not sharp bits of metal.
Imperial Storm Troopers
Damn good. They're accuracy varies a bit but over all a good choice. And blaster would give any oppenent a hell of a time.
Narn troops ("CHARGE!!!")
If you can keep them under control they're good. They do have a bit of a bloodlust problem to worry about.
Minbari quarterstaff-wielding morons
Utterly fucked. Same problem basically as the Klingons. But then again the Minbari do fight with other weapons but we have no canon examples to guage tactics by, only duels of limited actions.
Earth Alliance 'security'
They aren't brilliant but they'll get the job done. The PPG has decent if not spectacular firepower and they have decent equipments and tactics.
Jem'hadar
Utter fucked. They're idiots with a serious drug problem.
AOTC-era Jedi
They'd cut a swath through almost any zombie force you'd care to name.
B5 Rangers (aka quaterstaff-wielding morons pt. 2)
I'd take the Rangers. They do use other weapons than the "fighting pike". I'd take them but I'd want to see the gear first.
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Forgot to remember one important thing-- of all these groups, only two of them are natural combatants when placed in their native habitats: Klingons and Redshirts.
And as pathetic as Redshirts are, they can still reliably beat Klingons.
Therefore, Klingons are at the bottom of the food chain.
And as pathetic as Redshirts are, they can still reliably beat Klingons.
Therefore, Klingons are at the bottom of the food chain.
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In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
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Enlightenment wrote:Stormies are on the list because they have terrible accuracy when shooting at major characters. It's only extras that they can hit reliably.Durandal wrote:Considering that the stormtroopers have a pretty fantastic success rate compared to all the others listed (the Battle of Geonosis, successfully taking the Tantive IV, the Battle of Hoth), they probably shouldn't be on the list.
Well, these invading Zombies count as extras - I hope?
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