Stas Bush wrote:I say our next launch whatever rocket we use, catastrophically explodes on the 51st second. Whatever payload too.
If it's unmanned though it should explode on the launchpad. Also killing some people.
The next launch is an unmanned Soyuz TMA (Selene 1A).
This will cause delays
JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small. - NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
I also did some charts on common LEO booster and their respective payload performance in the History Forum, so all Space Agencies are free to use that.
Of course, it only details the loads and evolution of the most common, widespread and frequently launched real-life booster families, no "Saturn", "Energia", or any project vehicles.
But I'll make some charts on rocket family design projects too in the future
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BTW, this is an important question: does the latest Soyuz model allow for spacesuits to be worn by the crew when strapped to their couches?
JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small. - NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
BTW, this is an important question: does the latest Soyuz model allow for spacesuits to be worn by the crew when strapped to their couches?
As far as I know, yes. The "Sokol" sofr spacesuits protect the crew from dehermetization while strapped to the "Kazbek" chairs.
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Stas Bush wrote:
As far as I know, yes. The "Sokol" sofr spacesuits protect the crew from dehermetization while strapped to the "Kazbek" chairs.
I'm asking because one of the Soyuz development models had to reduce crew number from three to two in order to let them wear the space suits.
The cockpit is pretty cramped ; In fact, while Apollo had 3 cubic meters less living space, the couch arrangements seemed more comfortable. I'm not sure if I wouldn't trade leg room for a proper toilet, though
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JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small. - NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
PeZook wrote:Poor Ivan The Chimp - he's going to die
I shouldn't laugh, but I did.
Goddamn it, we're gonna be poor! This sucks!
"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN! Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people - PeZook Shroom, I read out the stuff you write about us. You are an endless supply of morale down here. :p - an OWS street medic Pink Sugar Heart Attack!
But Ivan will have a memorial dedicated to him at Korolev Spaceport
Unless...a maverick Shroomanian technician who has nothing to do with the rocket design at all discovers the minor fault in the staging mechanism which will cause the second stage to ignite on the pad, and fights through bureaucracy and various unlikely problems and gets launch control to abort the launch at the last possible moment, thus saving Ivan The Chimp and becoming hero of the day!
We could make a movie about that, and Ivan is probably going to be grateful. We can always roast some astronauts later to make up for that one
JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small. - NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN! Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people - PeZook Shroom, I read out the stuff you write about us. You are an endless supply of morale down here. :p - an OWS street medic Pink Sugar Heart Attack!
Shroom Man 777 wrote:Fuck that shit, let the monkey burn.
But look at him! Ain't he just adorable?
JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small. - NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
Shroom Man 777 wrote:Fuck that shit, let the monkey burn.
But look at him! Ain't he just adorable?
*silently writes an edict proclaiming crusade against overly cute chimps.*
STGOD: Byzantine Empire Your spirit, diseased as it is, refuses to allow you to give up, no matter what threats you face... and whatever wreckage you leave behind you.
Kreia
I second the death of Monkey Hero. Or Hero-Monkey.
We will erect a 500 m obelisk in his honor at Korolev
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"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN! Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people - PeZook Shroom, I read out the stuff you write about us. You are an endless supply of morale down here. :p - an OWS street medic Pink Sugar Heart Attack!
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:
*silently writes an edict proclaiming crusade against overly cute chimps.*
So...now we know who to suspect when the rocket blows up
JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small. - NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
Stas Bush wrote:I second the death of Monkey Hero. Or Hero-Monkey.
We will erect a 500 m obelisk in his honor at Korolev
The only chimp to ever be awarded "Hero of the Soviet Union"?
Shroom Man 777 wrote:I hope it will throw barrels at people.
Why not throw bananas instead? [/quote]
STGOD: Byzantine Empire Your spirit, diseased as it is, refuses to allow you to give up, no matter what threats you face... and whatever wreckage you leave behind you.
Kreia
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:
Why not throw bananas instead?
Or poop!
JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small. - NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
Italian Plumber Stalin Stas needs to stop him and save the princess, duh.
How much is Ivan the Monkey's death gonna cost us?
Goddamn it, ShroomSat/StratTV better cover it to make up money!
Maybe ask for donations to Ivan's grieving widow and childrens. Yes.
"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN! Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people - PeZook Shroom, I read out the stuff you write about us. You are an endless supply of morale down here. :p - an OWS street medic Pink Sugar Heart Attack!
Shroom Man 777 wrote:
How much is Ivan the Monkey's death gonna cost us?
Off the cuff, around 80 million for the booster, between 80 and 100 mil for the capsule and an undetermined amount for the launch pad. Stas can give us a better estimate here.
JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small. - NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
At least it doesn't waste My Comona. My...my...my....my... MY COMONA! *sings*
Oh well. I am sure your PeZookians are gonna just love this news.
"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN! Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people - PeZook Shroom, I read out the stuff you write about us. You are an endless supply of morale down here. :p - an OWS street medic Pink Sugar Heart Attack!
Shroom Man 777 wrote:At least it doesn't waste My Comona. My...my...my....my... MY COMONA! *sings*
Oh well. I am sure your PeZookians are gonna just love this news.
As if the angry disenfranchised young men and anarchists weren't bad enough, we're gonna get animal rights protesters, too.
You better prepare a damn good speech, mang
JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small. - NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
Well, the booster is 40-60 million. The wasted capsule is definetely around 100 million. The pad is not destroyed (can't destroy a concrete pad designed to tackle such things), but the launch crane and some other complex infrastructure will be destroyed so off-hand, another 80-100 million.
Remember that there are multiple R-7 launchpads and the crane for liftoff can be used for any R-7 family vehicle, be it a Soyuz or Molniya family or whatever (I say we use the Soyuz 2 always as it's the best and top notch of all R-7 mods and has the highest lift capacity, with a marginal cost difference).
Comona will be more heavily used for the R-7 launches and Titan launches.
My cosmodrome then will concern itself with heavier stuff with the Bean-imported Vulkan rockets.
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Okay...since I can't wait to fry the poor little chimp, I'll speed things up a bit
JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small. - NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
PeZook wrote:As if the angry disenfranchised young men and anarchists weren't bad enough, we're gonna get animal rights protesters, too.
You better prepare a damn good speech, mang
Well, I would... if only Sultan Ibrahim and Emperor Shady got off their cruise-controlling arses and skidaddled to Shroomania to chat with the PM so he can then fly to PeZookia afterwards...
I do not want to transmogrify into three separate entities to conduct three separate conferences in three separate country in the same (unreal) time!
"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN! Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people - PeZook Shroom, I read out the stuff you write about us. You are an endless supply of morale down here. :p - an OWS street medic Pink Sugar Heart Attack!
...and the Chief Launch Controller utters the Sentence Which Should Never Be Uttered.
"Hey, what could go wrong?"
At least he didn't say the much worse "What could possibly go wrong?"
JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small. - NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
Shroom Man 777 wrote:
Well, I would... if only Sultan Ibrahim and Emperor Shady got off their cruise-controlling arses and skidaddled to Shroomania to chat with the PM so he can then fly to PeZookia afterwards...
I do not want to transmogrify into three separate entities to conduct three separate conferences in three separate country in the same (unreal) time!
LOL with a lot of events in Shroomania I was pondering how to fit the Sultan's time. I guess I'll just write it in.
1st Plt. Comm. of the Warwolves Member of Justice League "People can't see Buddha so they say he doesn't have a body, since his body is formed of atoms, of course you can't see it. Saying he doesn't have a body is correct"- Li HongZhi
I was planning some hijinks with the Prime Minister having a meaningful discourse with the Sultan while talking to a concerned Shady over the state of his nation while trying to make sure neither the Sultan nor Shady know either one is in Shroomania. Since the Sultan would no doubt really dislike a man who calls himself a God, and who knows what Shady would think about the Sultan.
Prime Minister Shroom would be, like, two-timing them. Maybe he'd get Shady to hide in a refrigerator while the Sultan comes in for a drink or something.
"Why Emperor, please try this new low-temperature hibernation rejuvenation chamber! Oh, it happens to be stocked with meats and fish - to supplement the user in his healing!"
*shoves Shady in fridge*
"Ah, greetings your Eminence. What would Sultan want from the Capitol's finest kitchens?"
"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN! Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people - PeZook Shroom, I read out the stuff you write about us. You are an endless supply of morale down here. :p - an OWS street medic Pink Sugar Heart Attack!
"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source)
