Giving technology doesn't translate much. Their society, backward enough, needs time to learn the technology and use it. That takes years, if not decades. Just look how long it's taking for China to even catch up with the US.PeZook wrote:Well, if I was the leader of Japanistan,I'd feed Khitan's paranoia and give it enough advanced technology so that they could threaten our flank. You have to admit their location is strategically awesome.
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Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
My suspension of disbelief gets strained. Remember, I'm not the whacky STGOD player type.PeZook wrote:(This whole Moonbeam Madness thing seems to be really bothering you, BTW )
Well, that and the psuedo-RPing of Khitan you're doing. Granted they're practically an NPC but in theory they weren't going to be.
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Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
You don't need to "learn technology" to be a credible threat keeping the USCR in check, especially if somebody is feeding it to you (China had to pretty much bootstrap itself). All you need are lots and lots of ballistic missiles, tanks, infantry and decently capable aircraft. They don't even need to be very modern or capable as long as they can draw heavy divisions away from the main theatre.
And, of course, it would be trivial for Khitan to mine the fuck out of the Med.
I never said they weren't going to look for the capsule and be dicks to us
And, of course, it would be trivial for Khitan to mine the fuck out of the Med.
Huh?Well, that and the psuedo-RPing of Khitan you're doing. Granted they're practically an NPC but in theory they weren't going to be.
I never said they weren't going to look for the capsule and be dicks to us
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PeZook wrote:You don't need to "learn technology" to be a credible threat keeping the USCR in check, especially if somebody is feeding it to you (China had to pretty much bootstrap itself). All you need are lots and lots of ballistic missiles, tanks, infantry and decently capable aircraft. They don't even need to be very modern or capable as long as they can draw heavy divisions away from the main theatre.
And, of course, it would be trivial for Khitan to mine the fuck out of the Med.
Oh sure. But then, how are the Japanistanis going to ship them anything?
And ballistic missiles are no threat to us, what with the S-500 and S-400, and even the S-300VMs quite adequate to deal with SRBMs, and IRBMs soon. Anything else can be countered with an appropriate amount of force and weapons.
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Cruise missiles can be a problem.
Anyway, why would the Japanistanis arm the Khitanese? Both of them are xenophobic paranoids. Why would they trust the other, instead of assuming that they'd destroy each other?
Anyway, why would the Japanistanis arm the Khitanese? Both of them are xenophobic paranoids. Why would they trust the other, instead of assuming that they'd destroy each other?
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That is being dealt with one missile in the S-500 line up, which incorporates a few other things, which Skimmer suggested to me some time back how best to deal with cruise missile spam, and others.Shroom Man 777 wrote:Cruise missiles can be a problem.
Anyway, why would the Japanistanis arm the Khitanese? Both of them are xenophobic paranoids. Why would they trust the other, instead of assuming that they'd destroy each other?
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Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Uh...across the sea that's not the Med?Fingolfin_Noldor wrote: Oh sure. But then, how are the Japanistanis going to ship them anything?
They'd give them enough tech to be a threat to the USCR, but not to Japanistan, obviously. They need a navy and medium-range missiles to threaten Japanistan, so they'd get tanks, small arms sea mines etc. but not ships, submarines or longer ranged missiles.Shroom Man 777 wrote: Anyway, why would the Japanistanis arm the Khitanese? Both of them are xenophobic paranoids. Why would they trust the other, instead of assuming that they'd destroy each other?
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Er what? An entire coastline of Khitan lines the Mediterranean that stretches from Byzantium to Shroomania and Khitan in between.PeZook wrote:Uh...across the sea that's not the Med?Fingolfin_Noldor wrote: Oh sure. But then, how are the Japanistanis going to ship them anything?
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Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
We need to settle something on Veleria.
When the game started, the idea for Veleria was that the jungles were mostly along the coastlines and up to the mountain ranges that circled Veleria, seperating the coastal regions from "inner Veleria". Because of this, inner Veleria was not a jungle but an arid, almost lifeless desert.
This is why human habitation is only along the coasts.
When the game started, the idea for Veleria was that the jungles were mostly along the coastlines and up to the mountain ranges that circled Veleria, seperating the coastal regions from "inner Veleria". Because of this, inner Veleria was not a jungle but an arid, almost lifeless desert.
This is why human habitation is only along the coasts.
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I never heard anything about a desert! All I got was that inside Velaria was like all deathworld, ala 40k, and there was even talk about dinosaurs or some shit.
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Jungles are cooler, though. I'm sure there's some deathworld jungle Miranda could crash in somewhere in Veleria
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A mix of jungle and savannah with bits of desert is more appropriate, rather than a ridiculous plotdesert surrounded by jungle.
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Actually, it'd be, from outward to inward, Jungle - High Mountains - Desert. The Desert is formed because the Mountains prevent rainfall, much like how the Atacama Desert was formed in South America.Czechmate wrote:A mix of jungle and savannah with bits of desert is more appropriate, rather than a ridiculous plotdesert surrounded by jungle.
I have no objection to diversifying the terrain of inner Veleria here and there though.
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And so it is done. President Hank is now the latest recipient of Langley's highest military honor.
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It's like a wrestling championship belt!
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Appearance-wise, it's more based on a cross between the Order of Lenin, the Pour le Mérite, the Légion d'honneur, and, of course, the Medal of Honor.Shroom Man 777 wrote:It's like a wrestling championship belt!
But sure, why not?
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That is an actual picture of Travnik. It's actually quite a nice little city. Good for vacations.PeZook wrote:And BTW, I liked the green city of Travnik more than Balkanized names for Fox Mulder
As for the names...well, the bastard has quite an unusual name, it's hard to Balkanize properly.
I hadn't written anything in quite a while, so I figured I could use some practice. This was the first thing that came to mind, inspired by all the conspiracy newspapers.Shroomy wrote:SHADY:
X-Files! Shadow style!
Mulderovskic!
Skulinski!
What kind of inhuman experiments are your Black Hand soldiers doing, Shady?
(It was pretty good. It's totally cool that you're using X-Files characters, as they are awesome.)
Man, I can't believe Mulder and Scully are working for NOD, of all things!
As for the Inhuman experiments....you'll see.
I have a plot already planned out, but if you have any suggestions drop me a PM.
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I am really expecting your dangerous Black Hand people to be creating a supersoldier project by experimenting on:
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BAERNE, would you guys want some Shroomanian DARK LIQUID private military contractors in the COSTA?
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BAERNE, would you guys want some Shroomanian DARK LIQUID private military contractors in the COSTA?
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Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
As I mentioned to you earlier, Baerne, your proposed OOB for Costa doesn't make any sense. Hence, I've replaced it.
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Army transformation continues.. nice slow and easy.. Some additional updates to OOB as I continue to flash it out..
EDIT: OOB updated to indicate which fighter regiments are reserve and thus receive 2/3 training hours versus active units.
EDIT: OOB updated to indicate which fighter regiments are reserve and thus receive 2/3 training hours versus active units.
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Umm... still haven't worked on my "revised" OOB. Sorry guys.
(So goddamn lazy, I is.)
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Ok, if anybody still remembers those artillery synchropters I came up with the other day, I've had another helicopter-based artillery idea involving a rack of absurdly long-ranged rockets. Am I still nuts?
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Shroom - We'll see about that. Mr. Austin has something of an aversion to Shroomanian troops, for obvious reasons...
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Oh, come on. What would you rather have? Mushroom Mercenaries out being happy and gay, or some dubious mercenaries from Frequesue, the Border States, or Velaria out doing atrocities?
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