Beowulf wrote:Well, Decius probably isn't meeting with Secretary Doyle, but rather either an undersecretary or the Ambassador to Cascadia. Most likely the latter. But yes, immediately following the summit.
Decius is a Foreign Minister level though.
Yes, but Secretary Doyle took off fairly quickly. Otherwise my earlier post doesn't make too much sense. I'm trying to retcon the least amount possible. It doesn't make sense that Doyle is annoyed and wants to expand the military presence at Port Nike if he talked to Exarch Decius and is starting work on some sort of deal to remove the presence there.
However, tone of the discussion between Premier Shady and the Huang Di is not conducive to there being a long period of diplomatic discussion. Ditto the lead in by Lonestar. I'd imagine weeks, possibly a month at most. Couple weeks after that, at most, since this is really a fairly simple treaty, we have a nice flashy press conference to officially sign the deal (though preparations for the agreed terms would have already been in motion).
Which brings us to today, where the terms would have finished executing, resulting in Livorno no longer hosting a fleet base for the UCSR, and Port Nike being in civilian (though still government) hands.
That's fine with me, though I would imagine that there's still lots of to and fro that would last for weeks between UCSR, Frequesue, Byzantium within CATO to get everything settled.
Oh, of course.
Stas Bush wrote:If the deal is a go, the ships in Livorno would have to be relocated to Baerne and NFT.
Unless Siege decides to have an objection... I'd say the deal is a go.
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Hmmm. I see a possible sordid trend here. Rufus makes numerous "state visits" to Canissia; Kamila darts back and forth across the open border with PeZookia/Canissia for liaisons...
May as well put up a sign-- "Welcome to Canissia. Hourly rates, GIs welcome!"
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In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
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It hasn't degenerated quite to that extent, I think. When someone randomly starts spewing obscenities, we think "Shroomania!", not "Canissia!", after all.
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Beowulf wrote:Yes, but Secretary Doyle took off fairly quickly. Otherwise my earlier post doesn't make too much sense. I'm trying to retcon the least amount possible. It doesn't make sense that Doyle is annoyed and wants to expand the military presence at Port Nike if he talked to Exarch Decius and is starting work on some sort of deal to remove the presence there.
Alright then. Let things be.
One of us will write up some conclusion as to what was agreed upon to set things moving again.
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RogueIce wrote:With respect, former President Stansilav. But isn't this Shady's job now?
Sure. I'm just making an advice because somehow in this game, solid agreements tend to be thrown rather quickly after a long period of empty talk... Besides, I'm sort of a military advisor to CATO. Retired presidents can be military advisors now, can they?
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I wanted to get the UN up and running so we can have Stas come in and do the shoe-pound "We will bury you!" thing.
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around! If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!! Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
Beowulf wrote:Unless Siege decides to have an objection... I'd say the deal is a go.
I got exactly what I wanted, so I daresay I have preciously little reason to object.
Coincidentally that also means that the Syndicate will probably take another look at all those fancy propositions we threw out at the summit. We might just ratify a bunch of that stuff when we're sure no-one's looking .
I was thinking we'd do the signing ceremony somewhere significant. Either Port Nike or Livorno.
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Coyote wrote:I wanted to get the UN up and running so we can have Stas come in and do the shoe-pound "We will bury you!" thing.
I as actually going to have Berman do that at eh Summit, but decided against it.
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Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around! If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!! Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
Coyote wrote:My hiney belongs to Uncle Sam this weekend. No posts for me 'till Monday or thereabouts.
Ah, Reservist stuff?
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Stas Bush wrote:Sure. I'm just making an advice because somehow in this game, solid agreements tend to be thrown rather quickly after a long period of empty talk... Besides, I'm sort of a military advisor to CATO. Retired presidents can be military advisors now, can they?
So you took that job at the CATO Institute after all?
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Question: I take it this JASSM-XL is larger than the original JASSM-ER because the JASSM-ER was stated to have ~1000km range versus 1200 nautical miles, which is double that.
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Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Question: I take it this JASSM-XL is larger than the original JASSM-ER because the JASSM-ER was stated to have ~1000km range versus 1200 nautical miles, which is double that.
JASSM-XR, but yes. It adds roughly 6 feet to the length. Different warhead variants have different ranges, of course. Some warheads take up more space, and so displace more fuel. It can only be carried internally on a B-1 that has the internal partition either moved or removed. External carriage is possible on nearly every aircraft, though it's really only slated for carriage on the F-15G and A-7G.
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Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Question: I take it this JASSM-XL is larger than the original JASSM-ER because the JASSM-ER was stated to have ~1000km range versus 1200 nautical miles, which is double that.
Going from the wiki the JASSM (AGM-158A) was a 230nm range weapon, the JASSM-ER (AGM-158 B-H) was listed as a 500nm range and the JASSM-ER Improved (AGM-158J) was listed at 700nm and lastly the new JASSM-XR (AGM-158K) at 1200nm.
There may be some confusion with the JSOW-ER which is a 350nm range weapon currently working to develop a longer range breather motor which would add about 16" to length, 4" to overall width and range up to about 475-550nm but that's an in-development weapon and its principally a glide bomb versus the JASSM which is a fully powered missile.
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Stas Bush wrote:Isn't the JASSM basically a mid range ALCM?
It came out of Beo's shops so he would have the definitive answer but essentially yes.
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Stas Bush wrote:Isn't the JASSM basically a mid range ALCM?
It came out of Beo's shops so he would have the definitive answer but essentially yes.
Well, technically all of this is drawn from existing ideas. Not much of what I come up with is new. Makes it easier to figure things out. Effectively what has occured is the same changes that drove the AGM-86A into the lengthened AGM-86B. Difference is that the JASSM-XR is significantly more stealthy than the AGM-86B. The JASSM-XR can be accurately described as a long range ALCM, while the ER and original A models are more mid-range.
Given that the AGM-86C has a not much greater nominal range than the ER, I'm probably underestimating the range of the K model. *shrug* The L and other conventional models will have a range of around 1000 nm.
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Either that's a really big gun or that turret is automated? The design reminds me vaguely of the Merkava, although on the whole the tank looks too small to be an MBT to my (admittedly completely untrained) eye.
Personally, that design reminds me more of the PT-76 than the Merkava.
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