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Stas Bush wrote:[OOC] One more tip for mapmaking - you can just pick a real world territory, re-arrange it as you see fit and good to go.

In fact, many great nations are built that way: Saddamistan is New Guinea, Technocracy is the USSR (upside down), Syndromia is Greece (upside down), Qudlivun is Bahrain.[/OOC]
OOC, Stas WTF? Google Explain yourself!

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I also approve of the two thread idea.

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Stas Bush wrote:[OOC] Well, I concentrated the smaller nations so that they can at least pursue the meaningful alliances they made (Pezookia, Vanaheim, etc.) - if they would be far away the LUN would probably fall apart for the difficulty of joint naval actions and the lack of a major nation in it to act like the US does in NATO.

The map is kinda common-sense based.

However, newcomer small nations will not be placed into this middle ocean anymore (i've had similar considerations to yours when I was putting out the last version). [/OOC]
((Ah, that's cool, then. Just envisaged the Duchy being further south. Don't worry about it though. On the subject of real countries, the Duchy's based off a map I found of an area of Poland. Google is friend.))
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Shadow Empire announcement:

Today at exactly 1900 hours a scout aircraft of the imperial air force has located a large pirate base on the eastern shores of Syndromia. The base is apparently used by the Syndromian pirates to launch attacks on merchant ships in the area.
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The Shadow Empire has dispatched the USS Shady and the USS SEAWOLF to deal with this threat to the people of Syndromia. A contingent of 600 soldiers has also been allocated for the attack. This base appears to be heavily defended, so the Shadow Empire would like to request assistance from it's allies in the elimination of this base.
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OPERATION SYNDROMIAN STRIKE

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The FUNGAL AXIS commences joint peacekeeping operations aimed at suppressing insurgent activity in Syndromia - led by the seasoned Shroomanian peacekeeping force and the newly deployed Shadow Navy.

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Shroomanian ace fighters launch precision strikes on pirate harbors located at the coasts of Syndromia.

The Mushroom Military hopes that these strikes will help weaken insurgent operations throughout the whole of Syndromia by eliminating their logistics and leadership.
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The Red Technocracy expresses concern with the recent eruptions of violence on the north-eastern Syndromian islands, as well as with the pirate activity in the region which is harming the regional naval communications.

It believes that Shroomania will quickly pacify un-accounted paramilitary formations in it's peacekeeping zone, acting in conjuction with fellow FUNGAL AXIS member Shadow Empire, and restore order to the administered territories.

The Red Technocracy can lend a destroyer from it's Temporary Syndromia Administration Zone port for support of the operation should it extend and require more forces than previousy planned.
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I give you...the mighty Lone Star Republic.

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Stas Would you mind putting it on your global map?
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The Shroomanian Scientific Society expresses curiosity at the unique geographical formation of the land of Lone Star and is interested in sending scientists to gain an understanding of the land and its people, for a mutual exchange of knowledge.


OPERATION SYNDROMIAN STRIKE

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Shroomanian jet fighters patrol the aerospace of the re-pacified north-eastern coasts of Syndromia. The recent operations are aimed at drastically decreasing insurgent activity and piracy that has been plaguing the area.

Sadly, the whereabouts of the II Republic freighter Gdynia are still unknown.

However, intelligence has been procured by Shadow Empire spies (formerly assassins) through enhanced interrogation, information that suggests that insurgent and pirate activity are being directed by ex-Syndromian military personnel who disappeared after the defeat of Syndromia under the hands of Zoria and her allies.
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Excellent, though the arrangement could use some aesthetic modifications. Shinra's too big.

I say we divide it to a Right and Left hemisphere.

Say, the big nations of Shinra, Saddamistan, Blackadder and Lonestar get the Left hemisphere and get arranged like the American continents.

The other nations, the Red Technocracy, the FUNGAL AXIS, the LUN, Zoria, Crossroads, and the ones involved in the most current events - could get the Right hemisphere and get arranged like the Asia-Pacific nations. With the Red Technocracy and Shroomania arranged as mainland Asia, while the others are arranged like the SE Asian nations and Australia.
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Post by K. A. Pital »

I find re-arranging existing nations a really hard task for the reasons detailed earlier to Vanas, events already occured based on their position.

The nations should show a "web" of islands, so they can't be arranged like continents I guess, and each of them should be completely cut off by water on all sides.

Besides, I believe the map will grow, and some Mega-Nations may come, and they do need a place on the map. Building from the center out is easier. Shinra has stated it's territory I believe.

EDIT: map changed a little due to earlier scaling fuckups - I miscalculated the territory of Shroomania and indeed upon measurements Shinra is tad over the top.
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The OP states were are all island nations, the world is a giant Island world, and if everyone gets in on the act the map swells to ten times that sizes. So we build out from what we got rather than redo.

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Yeah... but the Right and Left hemispheres still allow interacting nations to stick together. We could put a big ocean between Lonestar, Blackadder, and Saddamistan and not really have an effect to current events - those nations are also big and can project themselves sort of like the USA, an ocean won't bother them. And if the "Right hemisphere" nations that include our interacting nations get arranged in an Asia-Pacific fashion, it still keeps us close together and allows for interaction (we're a lot of interlinked island nations and stuff, so I think Asia is a best analogue).

But I understand that it's a pain in the ass to create such a map, and your efforts are really helpful in making the SDN World a bit more sane. Hey, it's okay, we've got a great RAR going!
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For the purpose of maintaining sane geography in case newcomers arrive, I propose the map be further extended only vertically (to fit the 1024 width barrier). The scale of this map is very small right now (Saddamistan = New Guinea for scale), so we can extend it to 10 times it's height without infinging on the physics of the imaginary planet.
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Hey, cool. You do have a point about the vertical thing, though. If we expand it horizontally, we will destroy the physics of the SDN World by means of messing up the forum format :)
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The development of the lasergun by Zablanian scientists has been completed, according to an announcement by the Republic. The originally intended project, The Plasma Gun That Actually Works, was dropped due to it being "wanked out" and "silly".

Blueprints of the Lasergun have been sent to all nations of the FUNGAL AXIS, as well as the Linconian Union."
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Well Here's some more information of my little nation
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The Republic of Vulpesia
Population: 250,000 first world income
Military size: 1,000 troops

Main Industries: Gaming computers by "Frostwolf INC." and tourism.
GDP per year: 6,250,000,000 USD
Government type: Constitutional Parlimentary Monarchy.
Current Leader: Lord Wesley Montgomery the First.
Current Parliment party in control: Labour
List of all Parties and percentage of members of parliment in the party:
Labour: 35 %
Democratic (US style): 50%
Libertarian: 10%
Communist: 5%
Socialist: 5%

The freedoms given to the citizens by the Constitution of Vulpesia:
Freedom of Speach
Freedom of Assembly
Freedom of the Press
Freedom of Religion

Power Generation:
Nuclear: 60%
Solar: 25%
Wind: 5%
Geothermal: 10%

Areas of intrest:
Mt. Helios; a 3,421 foot tall sheild volcano that is active. Due to it's unique properties the lava that is oozing down fron it's caldera is very slow running only moving at a rate of 3 cm per year. However the risk of a major eruption is still viable so the citezens of the nation know to evacuate their villages and towns to the main cities in case of an eruption. Geological history shows that a majority of the time during an eruption the lava just oozes out at a much faster rage than normal making the volcano grow by about 2 feet in height and 15 feet wider. Geothermal Power plants are located near by the volcano where there are underwater hot springs which provide the heat necessary to generate the electricity.

Feros Depression: A desert area on the island where the land dips down about 121 feet below sea level. Some believe it's a small crater created when a small asteroid crashed into the Island millions years ago creating the depression however erosion has softened the crater into a sandy depression. This location is also where a majority of the solar panels giving Vulpesia it's Solar energy are located.

Additional Poltical information:
Elections: Open and available to all citizens over 18 years old.
Parlimentary Elections are held once every 4 years
A member of parliment can remain there for a maximum of three four-year terms.

Age Demographic:
0 to 13: 8%
13 to 18: 7%
18 to 29: 45%
30 to 49: 15%
49 to 60: 10%
60 to 80: 10%
80 to 120: 5%
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The Republic Navy has released the following radio transcript today:

1505 RNV Swiftsure: RTS Gdynia located at sea off the Syndromian coast thanks to data from a Shroomian UAV. Ship is burned out and drifting, halfway submerged. Extensive damage visible on the superstructre. I intend to board the hulk and search for survivors.

1506 APCS Command: Unerstood Swiftsure, proceed immediately. We are directing patrol assets into your general area.

1607 RNV Swiftsure: Boarding parties have entered the ship. There are bullet holes on the superstructure and evidence of rocket attack against comms equipment. No survivors, no bodies. Cargo waterlogged and partly destroyed by fire.

Rest of the transcript remains classified. Whereabouts of 12 crewmembers from the Gdynia remain unknown. Republic Intelligence has requested that Shroomania release any information gained during interrogation of Syndromian pirates which may help in ascertaining the whereabouts of the crew. Pirate attack remains the most likely hypothesis for loss of the Gdynia, and Navy Command has suggested that pirate slave-hunters may have also been responsible for the catastrophe of a Syndromian refugee ship.

Several companies from Shroomania and Zoria were contacted today with bid requests for merchant ship armaments to be installed aboard Republic Fast Commerce Ships.

Domestic news

Republican shipyard management has announced today that they feel confident they will be able to meet demand for merchant vessels from foreign nations. Growing international trade has raised demand for new ships to an all-time high, they say, and Republican shipyards are eager to come forth and aid the international community by providing means of moving the goods.

National Shipyard spokespersons have dismissed rumors of technical problems plaguing the new Fast Commerce Ships, claiming they have all been solved in the prototype run of four first ships of the type.

In other news, the electronics industry of PeZookia is starting to show promise. Recently, young engineers at the National Information Technology and Electronics Research facility in the capital city of Astoria have participated on a limited scope in the design of some avionics of the Red Technocracy SPIRAL spacecraft ; This development, while a miniscule contribution to the progress of the project, signals the entry of fledgling domestic electronics industry into the inernational scene.

Military

A second batch of Zorian Advanced Anti-Shipping Missiles have been delivered to PeZookia. This batch has been modified based on preliminary test results, and will be used for training of the first missile battalions. The Defence Ministry is now seeking bidders for mobile launcher, command and control systems and reconeissance UAVs to facilitate construction of a real defence system.

The Defence Ministry has released a plan for the creation of an integreated sea-and-air defence network for all LUN nations. The plan calls for creation of a "zone of control" around each island nation, by means of shore-based anti-shipping batteries mounted on highly mobile launchers. These dispersed assets, impossible to fully locate and destroy from the air, shall form the main line of defence against a seaborne invasion.

Additional air and naval assets shall be used to guide these missiles to their target, rather than perform the fighting, as any potential invader shall probably possess a tremendous advantage in naval capability, and thus any engagement by naval assets will most probably be suicidal. Only a dispersed, mobile and decentralized local defence network stands a chance of surviving a systematic air campaign long enough to inflict casualties on invasion shipping.

This is a preliminary plan and doctrine outline. The Ministry has called a conference of all LUN nations to evaluate this strategy and propose other ideas for the future of national defense in the fast-changing world.

International matters

The Republic of N'Ton is most welcome to participate in the SIA. We advise that careful monitoring of student flow is undertaken for the purpose of evaluating the effectiveness of the program. While the King is confident that the SIA will result in high benefits for all member countries, we also understand all concerns about the outflow of bright and qualified students. Perhaps a workforce exchange program could help ease the burden, by allowing immigrating students to apply their skills in their home country, without necessarily moving back?

[OOC: We need a way to keep track of the time-flow, really ;) /ooc]
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The Red Technocracy proposes to lay fiberoptic cables to the Republic of Vulpesia and give some of our supermassive computer servers for gaming, as well as places an order for several thousand high-powered computer units for our abroad contingents which cannot use the Standard RT Network Terminal Agent and actually need PCs. We would pay 5,000 dollars for each top notch computer for our ~100,000 contingent, resulting in a 500 million USD offer. Strike deal?

The Red Technocracy also wants to know if Vulpesia allows for open-source systems installed on it's personal computers, or develops such systems itself. The Red Technocracy is decisively against any proprietary software, especially for it's military installations where security is paramount.
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The Republic of One hereby emails blueprints and design notes of the lasergun to all the FUNGAL AXIS and the Linconian union. The Rupublic of One also advises it's friends that you don't want to hold the lasergun by the barrel, or your hand will get horribly burnt.
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Proposed timeflow - 1hr = 24 hours, 1 day thus equals 24 days, and two weeks equal 1 year. This is important to allow fast progress, but also slacking reaction times for forum members short on time.
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Stas Bush wrote:Proposed timeflow - 1hr = 24 hours, 1 day thus equals 24 days, and two weeks equal 1 year. This is important to allow fast progress, but also slacking reaction times for forum members short on time.
It's most important for evaluating when we can triumphantly declare the completion of insane, huge engineering projects :D

And smaller ones, too.

I like the proposal,though. Have nothing against it, albeit I may not be able to post every day.
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Let's take a look at the People's Republic of Canissia:

Zor wrote:The planet in question would be considered paradise by most people's standards. It has Terran ecology transplanted onto it and differs from earth geographically, instead of continents, it is a complex maze of seas and islands, most of which are tropical to temperate due to ocean currents and such. Technology level is basically that of modern day earth, with plenty of fossil fuels. The planet is populated with humans, which are basically a good solid mix of ethnic groups from all over earth with religion being done with one quarter being worshipers of moderate versions of Earth Religions that get along well enough with the rest being either atheists or agnostics.

They assume the title of King/Tsar/Imperator/Ceaser/Whatever, a constitutional monarch. You get a nice Palace in a capital. There is a parliament, but that handles internal affairs. You also have connection to Earth to see how things are going, and for a vacation if so you desire, although only you and your 25 relocated people are allowed to go between worlds with only the cloths on their backs and a backpack worth of stuff.

The size and prowess of your nation is based on your status and postcount. All nations have water barriers.

According to the OP, I get this: 5,001-20,000 regular posters, Senators and mods minimum-Tsardom

Total Land Area, 500,000 square kilometers:
This makes my country about the size of Spain (504,030 sq.Km).

Population: 30 million first world
Spain, by comparison, has 45,200,737 and a population density of 90 people per square kilometer. So we're comfy.


Military: 400,000 personnel
I'll divvy it up thusly:


Army: 100,000
2 Heavy Divisions: Heavy tracked vehicles for tanks, IFVs, SPGs, AAA, etc.
2 Medium Divisions: Wheeled vehicles, 8- 6- and 4-wheelers.
2 Light Divisions: Light infantry + some light wheeled vehicles; Airborne/Airmobile capable
Army Air Corps: 10,000
30 A-8 style CAS
30 A-10 style CAS
40 C-130
20 C-17 type Airborne transport.



Air Force: 80,000
300 Jet Fighters
--200 F-22s
--100 F-35 JSF Marine (V/STOL) versions
--5 Tankers
--4 AWACs
--50 C-17s as needed.



Navy: 100,000
10 Arleigh Burke-class Destroyers
50 Halifax Class Frigates
50 Pegasus-class Hydrofoils (10 Areligh-Burkes sacrificed)
20 modern Diesel submarines (1 modified for SEAL-team insertion).
Naval Air Arm:
10 P-3 Orion style anti-sub patrol
20 Anti-sub dirigibles with depth charges.
Navy SEALs for special ops: 60 SEALS.


Marines: 120,000
2 Medium Divisions: Wheeled vehicles, 8- 6- and 4-wheelers.
4 Light Divisions: Light infantry + some light wheeled vehicles; Amphibious capable
Marine Amphib Corps: (10 Halifax frigates sacrificed)
1 Tarawa type landing ship
9 Heavy Assault Landers (Hovercraft)
20 Riverine Patrol/Attack boats
Marine Air Corps: 5,000
30 Attack Helicopter (contra-rotating rotors a la Kamov Ka-50 style)
30 Transport helicopter (Jolly Green Giant style heavies).


Since we are all island nations, my Army is primarily home defense with limited deployment through airborne assault corps. The Navy and the Marines are the primary strike arms, with the Air Force in support. Since ICBMs are not given in the OP, I am going on the premise that such weapons are not a factor, at least to start with.

Defense philosophy:
Heavy and Light Army divisions will be dispersed in sectors throughout island of Canissia; ready to repel any assault. Faster Medium divisions will be based further inland, ready to serve as fire brigades to reinforce areas of intense activity.

Power Projection philosophy:
Canissia will primarily concern itself with watching over everything in range of its refueled strike aircraft. With Strategic-level bombers not included in the OP, this gives limited long-range (inter-continenetal) power projection capability. Marine & Navy strike arms will concern themselves with island defense and performing limited strikes on pinpoint locations as needed on nearby islands.

With the 'complex maze of seas and islands' described in the OP, large, heavy ships such as CVNs are seen as impractical. Smaller, faster, light attack and patrol boats are utilized instead for quick inter-island maneuver warfare.



-Able to produce enough food for export, with industry capable of producing large scale goods such as cars, modern arms industry and shipbuilding, GPD-$750,000,000,000 USD per year

With a GDP like this, I can easily upgrade weapons, aircraft, etc as needed.
Areas of special research:
UAVs, include long-range strategic reconnaissance and strike capability.
Combat robots for patrol and convoy escort.
Aerospace Program for launching GPS satellites.
EHAZ: Extreme High Altitude Zeppelin project for command/control and strategic overwatch.
Cruise missiles

--Willing to cooperate on these projects with allies. Will hit up the Mess members first.


I'll also put in the following: Law Enforcement
Police Force: Ordinary Civilian police with cars, etc, and SWAT teams in each city.
Coast Guard: Make more Pegasus hydrofoils and a few heavier Cutters for patrol & enforcement, plus harbor traffic control.



Each palace is also linked together with a central political web-forum thing for international diplomacy.
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In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!

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It's getting to the point where maybe we should do up OOBs and start an STGOD in the Games section.
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."


In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!

If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!!
Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
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Let us now look at...
The Incorporated Nation of Crossroadia

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GOVERNMENT

General Rupert Plumbean, Military Advisor”
Director Heratio Maglicuty, Internal Security
Professor Theodore Throkmorten Science and Education Advisor
Ambassador Hugo Wizenheimer Crossroadia Leason”
Vice Manager Walter W. Wonker Economic Advisor”
Captain Fredrick Fandango Naval Advisor”
Mr. Eustace Banks Department of the Interior”
Eric Fischer Current “Lord High CEO to Crossroadia”

Elections: Open and voluntary
Terms: 4 to 6 years.
Political Parties: Labour, Green, and Manager

GEOGRAPHY
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Terrain: Extensive wooded forests over much of the area. A large extinct volcanic mountain near the center of the territory, several large rivers coming from the mountain to the two main bays.

Climate: Wet rainy weather in summer, heavy snows in winter. Extensive wetlands near the southern coasts. Snow caps on mountains most of the year.

Natural Resources: Small amounts of uranium. Larger deposits of nickel, iron and aluminum. Large forests of rare woods. Extensive aquaculture in coastal waters. Vast fields of staple grains- primarily wheat- cover the central planes. Herds of wild Bishonen roam the open plains are often exported for ‘various uses’

DEMOGRAPHICS

Population: 15,000,000 First World citizens
Civil Rights: Open and Expressive
Economy: Thriving
GDP per Capita: $20,000
GDP: $375,000,000,000
National Budget: $300,000,000,000
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defence: 20%

Age Structure: 0-14 years: 20%; 14-24 years: 35%;
30-50 years: 30%; 60-80 years: 10%; 80+ years 5%
Life Expectancy at birth: total population: 89; female: 94; male: 85
Nationality: Employee;
Ethnic Groups: white: 25%, black: 15%, Asian: 30%, Latino: 20%
Religions: Government is officially non-committed, however “Pastafarianism” and worship of the Flying Spaghetti Monster are widespread
Languages: Official language is Standard English. Small enclaves of various immigrant tongues exist. Japanese: 9%, Russian: 6%, German: 4%, Spanish: 6%, Chinese (various dialects): 7%
Literacy Rate: total population: 96% (over the age of 10) (mandated by law.)

ECONOMY

Trade: Extensive shipping trade with the FUNGAL AXIS, Omsk Pact and
Primary Exports: Rice, Aquaculture, Aluminium, Nickel, Uranium, Uppsy-Daisium, Bishounen, Airships ,Gay Porn
Primary Imports: Manufactured Goods,
Currency: The Mighty Vernic

MILITARY

Army Forces: 150,000 standing troops, mixed of Mobilized Infantry and armoured forces.
Naval Forces: 10 Arleigh Burke-class, Destroyers, 40 Halifax Class Frigates, 10 Diesel submarines.
Air Forces: 150 Jet Fighters

In Production: Currently a large portion of the Crossroadian GDP is being put forth into the construction of a series of Missile Cruisers for patrolling its waters as well as Two “Yer Momma” class Super Samarians, if the nation of Shroomania will agree to let another Nation construct.
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