SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

I did something to deter that

You did something to make the FTO hate your, and by proxy Beowulf's, guts. Thanks for showing the power of your colonial master!

P.S. Isn't PR fail in SDN World full of awesome? The CSR enjoys when someone screws up

Do we plan to detonate one of our miniaturised nukes?

[Siege]

A brief thought on this epic PR-clusterfuck surrounding Tian Jiao: I am honestly at a loss to explain how Karmic's statement can in any way be explained as a 'threat' to Tian Xia/Tian Jiao. What he said was:

In order to protect our continent, we need a multinational defence strategy [...] I believe that Tian Xia either is unwilling or unable to drop the Westcherterian deadweight, which means defence strategies would have to go through a major off shore power, and working with them defeats the purpose of any sort of continental defence initiative.

Which translates to: "we Frequesuan nations have to cooperate on mutual defence. Since Tian Xia isn't a Frequesuan nation (and Tian Jiao is its province), Tian Xia won't be included in any such cooperation". How is that a threat, again? Much less one that warrants nuclear tests as a response?

PS: And I'm no expert on this subject, but isn't 576 atomic bombs stashed in a remote province a tad much considering nukes have only been around for something like two years? Can you even manufacture that many in so little time?

PPS: You may consider the official San Doradan response to this situation to be something akin to "wait, what?" We were busy doing other stuff, and as far as we're concerned, the FTO shrugs and rolls its eyes at this petty display of dickwaving.

PPPS: And San Dorado has always considered Tian Jiao to be a bunch of ungrateful bastards anyway. We helped them out during the PRSF-Westchestrian war, got into a stand-off with the CSR because of it, and in return they've been nothing but a major pain in the ass. We should've let the CSR waste that place (Stas, if it's any use, you may assume our ambassador in Stasograd has told you as much), so frankly we'd be cheering all the way to the bank if the Huang Di kicks the ass of that prick of a governor.

[PeZook]

Do we plan to detonate one of our miniaturised nukes?

We probably should, to make sure they work. Though Stas already did a test...sort of, for an MRBM mounted warhead

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

Do we plan to detonate one of our miniaturised nukes?

We probably should, to make sure they work. Though Stas already did a test...sort of, for an MRBM mounted warhead

Yeah, and I want to start fielding nuclear tipped Iskander SS-26 missiles. Not to mention, we should get a longer ranged version to work in a few years time.

[Shroom Man 777]

And, for the record, I'll admit that weapon was largely developed by Tian Xian researchers. Tian Jiaoan military scientists are busy with other things, unfortunately. I know full well I depend on Beo for a lot of things and I admit that too.

TEchnically, Shroomania was given some of the SNC data as well.

I had an ongoing nuclear weapons project called Grinning Gilgamesh which was mentioned early on, remember that first ever FUN Conference when we had our guys in Secret Conference Rooms?

Besides, we're first-world nations, not TINY places in the F-ing continent.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

I had an ongoing nuclear weapons project called Grinning Gilgamesh which was mentioned early on, remember that first ever FUN Conference when we had our guys in Secret Conference Rooms?

Besides, we're first-world nations, not TINY places in the F-ing continent.

A nuclear program isn't cheap though.

[Shroom Man 777]

Well, yeah, but thanks for the datas kk thnx!


Anyway, I'm still here. It's just that school and man, 1-9pm and all that, so I'm pretty bloody tireds and stuffs. Also, losing interests - come on, this game is like crack addiction, I've got a life to live!

I think with the death of Shepistan, Shroomania will be decreasing military spending and stuff. We'll keep a small nuclear deterrent and a space deterrent (if everyone goes crazy), but fuck it. It's time to have fun, not buy more guns, but buy more... chocolate! Chocolate underwear! Yeah!

[PeZook]

A nuclear program isn't cheap though.

Oh, come on. It's not like Shroomania is poor

[Shroom Man 777]

PeZooks, how are we gonna do our Yer Mom nuclear deterrents? Use your awesome accounting powers to calculate how many megadeaths our modest arsenal can accrue!


Hrm... maybe I should also get Bruce Willis and my own snazzy version of the Space Shuttle. Plus, some sort of drill-armed space tank. For the Vampire Meteors!

[CmdrWilkens]

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EDIT: Why won't the senate let ppl in stgod forum edit their posts?

I've been advocating for it and I know Mike is working with the coding. Currently the only edit permission which appears to be working is the universal 10 minute edit. Senators do not have unlimited edit permission and apparently the permissions system is rather tricky so getting editing back may take some time.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

A nuclear program isn't cheap though.

Oh, come on. It's not like Shroomania is poor

Well, i remember reading somewhere on this forum that the US Atomic program was in the ball park of tens of billions of dollars.

[Shroom Man 777]

Yeah... but now we've got nuclear reactors and stuff up the wazoo, so our nuclear science knowledge is definitely better than those Manhattan dudes.

[PeZook]

PeZooks, how are we gonna do our Yer Mom nuclear deterrents? Use your awesome accounting powers to calculate how many megadeaths our modest arsenal can accrue!

It depends on how much nuclear killyness you want to put on them

They are equipped with universal launch silos that hold 154 Tomahawk missiles or about fifty Buzzkills total. I don't know how large the SS-26 is, but we'll assume for now we can load the ULS with about fifty as well.

So...if you go totally for tomahawks, and get a 40kt warhead in each one, and assume 30% penetration rate, we can get 50*40 = 2000 kilotonnes per yer mom. Land-attack Buzzkills could probably get a better penetration rate, but they have far smaller range.

So for a fully Buzzkill loadout (and the same warheads) and 50% penetration rate we get 1000 kilotonnes within their range, if we assume 75% then it's around 1500 kilotonnes.

The best way would probably be to use the Yer Moms in sets and co-ordinate fucking up a country with air forces. Nuke the air defences with advanced hard-to-intercept missiles, then nuke the undefended targets with cheap tomahawk spam.

EDIT: And...awesome accounting powers? Jesus christ, it's simple multiplication and a bunch of assumptions

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

Yeah... but now we've got nuclear reactors and stuff up the wazoo, so our nuclear science knowledge is definitely better than those Manhattan dudes.

True. Anyhow, I think we more or less agreed informally to share data and so forth, so there's no reason to bitch about it.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

PeZooks, how are we gonna do our Yer Mom nuclear deterrents? Use your awesome accounting powers to calculate how many megadeaths our modest arsenal can accrue!

It depends on how much nuclear killyness you want to put on them

They are equipped with universal launch silos that hold 154 Tomahawk missiles or about fifty Buzzkills total. I don't know how large the SS-26 is, but we'll assume for now we can load the ULS with about fifty as well.

So...if you go totally for tomahawks, and get a 40kt warhead in each one, and assume 30% penetration rate, we can get 50*40 = 2000 kilotonnes per yer mom. Land-attack Buzzkills could probably get a better penetration rate, but they have far smaller range.

So for a fully Buzzkill loadout (and the same warheads) and 50% penetration rate we get 1000 kilotonnes within their range, if we assume 75% then it's around 1500 kilotonnes.

The best way would probably be to use the Yer Moms in sets and co-ordinate fucking up a country with air forces. Nuke the air defences with advanced hard-to-intercept missiles, then nuke the undefended targets with cheap tomahawk spam.

You guys might want to look into the stealthy version of the Tomahawk, the AGM-86B ALCM or AGM-129. Probably could retool it for use on that submarine of yours.

[Shroom Man 777]

Indeed. That could be our... well, what DO we call our Tomahawks, PeZook? Killfuckers? The stealth versions could be Stealth Shitters!

[Siege]

Hrm... maybe I should also get Bruce Willis and my own snazzy version of the Space Shuttle.

Get the Silver Streak. You know you want to . And besides, now we know it works!

[PeZook]

Hrm... maybe I should also get Bruce Willis and my own snazzy version of the Space Shuttle.

Get the Silver Streak. You know you want to . And besides, now we know it works!

Not quite...it still can kill astronauts with faulty life support

[Shroom Man 777]

I can use my joint-CSR cyberbrain research to make the ultimate orbital strategic drones! Then I can link them to a defense computer... the most powerful artificial intelligence in the world... ShroomNet!

Fuck yeah!

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

Hrm... maybe I should also get Bruce Willis and my own snazzy version of the Space Shuttle.

Get the Silver Streak. You know you want to . And besides, now we know it works!

Not quite...it still can kill astronauts with faulty life support

The SNC will launch their own model in due time. There is no rush. Besides, it's kinda inefficient to just launch one miserable small Space Plane with a rocket.

[PeZook]

Indeed. That could be our... well, what DO we call our Tomahawks, PeZook? Killfuckers? The stealth versions could be Stealth Shitters!

No, the Killfuck is a next generation strategic missile which we didn't really specify yet. Frankly, I didn't bother thinking it up much

[Shroom Man 777]

The SNC will launch their own model in due time. There is no rush. Besides, it's kinda inefficient to just launch one miserable small Space Plane with a rocket.

I love the trash talking! Miserable small space plane!

Maybe we could cool off with the whole space weapons thing. I mean, with Shep dead, we no longer need to kill anyone in an insanely quick and expedient manner with use of strategic weapons. It's time for peace!

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

The SNC will launch their own model in due time. There is no rush. Besides, it's kinda inefficient to just launch one miserable small Space Plane with a rocket.

I love the trash talking! Miserable small space plane!

Maybe we could cool off with the whole space weapons thing. I mean, with Shep dead, we no longer need to kill anyone in an insanely quick and expedient manner with use of strategic weapons. It's time for peace!

I was serious. The idea was to launch the shuttle Buran up to space with 1-2 of these space planes in the cargo hold. The Buran will act as a mothership to the two space planes, while the space planes go into weapon drop positions.

It was how we also ensured plenty of nukes hit Shepistan in the last game. There was no way in hell any known ABM missile could stop nukes screeching at MACH 6 and above.

Technically there's Japanistan though. Anyhow, the timeline for full deployment of the system is something like 5-10 years from now.

Indeed. That could be our... well, what DO we call our Tomahawks, PeZook? Killfuckers? The stealth versions could be Stealth Shitters!

No, the Killfuck is a next generation strategic missile which we didn't really specify yet. Frankly, I didn't bother thinking it up much

My advice would be a stealthy supersonic missile like the Kh-101 and with range about 3000km at least.

[PeZook]

Coyote, at a mere 20 tonnes, the Eagle isn't going anywhere out of Earth orbit. It's really meagre, and even with supercool ultraefficient ion thrusters, it won't be making interplanetary trips in a reasonable amount of time

[PeZook]

Hey Siege, if you launch the thing, can we has access to flight data? FASTA wants to use the eagle for future permanent moon presence programs...