SDNWorld Redux - Casting Call & Planning MK II

[RogueIce]

Maybe I should arm some rebels around there

I foresee a war between you and San Doradan traders in the future.

The IRT is what San Dorado wants to be when it grows up.

[Siege]

I foresee a war between you and San Doradan traders in the future.

An interesting idea, but I wouldn't arm rebels engaged in struggle against a fellow FTO member. That's sort of counterproductive, and there's plenty of other rebels out there to make money off, one presumes .

PS: What do you guys say I send all Frequesuan player nations an open invitation to join the first round of FTO talks? I'll host them if you all don't mind...

[Karmic Knight]

PS: What do you guys say I send all Frequesuan player nations an open invitation to join the first round of FTO talks? I'll host them if you all don't mind...

I see no problem with that.

[RogueIce]

The "Fourth Continent"

Yes, there is a little "Panama Canal" thingy between Wilkonia and the IRT.

Except on one side there's Wilkonia, and the other, the IRT. So they have a sort of "co-ownership" thing going on with the waterway. Ergo, some potential for diplomatic conflicts.

And that is why it will be a naturally occuring waterway. Otherwise somebody would have been dumb enough to build a canal there. And totally absolving me of any responsibility for not realizing that little flaw before I posted it.

It was intentional you see.

[Czechmate]

Someday Westchester is going to be a Principality by sheer conquered territory. Of course, supporting the backward hick fucks in the PRSF will ruin the economy, but His Majesty's Secret Police will ensure the populace fully supports His Majesty's efforts to expand the Estates.

[CmdrWilkens]

Additional notes on this but the waterway is internationally navigable but there will likely be some long simmering tension between Wilkonia and the IRT (thus part of the reason that both have paticularly large navies I think I'm still running the largest blue water force while IRT runs one of the heftiest brown-water forces and a nearly comparable blue-water force). Obviously the exact details of the tension (and likely as not shots fired) will be something to work out but it should be nice flashpoint for the world.

[RogueIce]

For the curious, before the little MESS summit I'm going to swing by Cascadia and visit Steve. During the visit we're going to have a discussion about the first Nova Terra. Since he knows there was a Round One in this Great Game but doesn't know what happened, I'll be telling him so he'll have a general idea on why some of our leaders (especially the so-called "Veterans" of the original Nova Terra) act like they do WRT some of their relations.

So it'll basically be a chance for you to OOC get a general summation of what went down in the first game. In context you can't make use of it; unless one of the other Veterans decides to tell you, you'll have no idea what happened, beyond possibly knowing something like this has happened before.

The upside, of course, is that if any of the Veterans tells you they won't have to type it all out; it was already done once.

As a note for the FTO: you could conceivably ask Raj about it at your conference. Coiler was there too but he was late to the party; Raj would have a more complete picture.

Of course I again note that one of the Veterans will have to explicitly tell you if you're a newbie to SDN World. Otherwise you can't "know" what happened (thus you can't hold it against Shep for nuking the world, or be afraid of the FUN for their cobalt bombs, etc).

[phongn]

Additional notes on this but the waterway is internationally navigable but there will likely be some long simmering tension between Wilkonia and the IRT (thus part of the reason that both have paticularly large navies I think I'm still running the largest blue water force while IRT runs one of the heftiest brown-water forces and a nearly comparable blue-water force).

I've actually heavily cut my navy in favor of increased strategic and tactical airpower as well as a doubling in my army forces. Where as you have:

8 CVN, 22 CG, 38 DDG, 24 FFG, 8 AOE and 16 AKE

I have:

4 CV, 4 LHD, 6 SCS/DDH, 8 LPD+LSD, 8 CG, 28 DDG, 52 FFG, 18 SSN, 24 SSK, 14 AOE, 14 AKE and 14 AO.

Mine is more geared towards submarine hunting, escort and occasionally aggressive contract negotiation as opposed to your more traditional blue-water navy.

Obviously the exact details of the tension (and likely as not shots fired) will be something to work out but it should be nice flashpoint for the world.

Probably some shots fired, I think.

[Shroom Man 777]

I have been AWOL for some time.

Wait.

Stas isn't in the FUN?

And Stas said something about a war...

Um... can we has a Cold War instead?

A Cold War between the FUN and the Crimson Star Republic?

PeZook: DUDE. You kind of... inverted Shroomania, mang. It's a cool map, but Shroomania's facing the wrong direction. Totally.

[Bluewolf]

Ok, I have started my country and will post tommorow.

[Raj Ahten]

PS: What do you guys say I send all Frequesuan player nations an open invitation to join the first round of FTO talks? I'll host them if you all don't mind...

Sure, go ahead and have the conference at your capital. Indhopal's people will be there.

[The Duchess of Zeon]

I have been AWOL for some time.

Wait.

Stas isn't in the FUN?

And Stas said something about a war...

Um... can we has a Cold War instead?

A Cold War between the FUN and the Crimson Star Republic?

PeZook: DUDE. You kind of... inverted Shroomania, mang. It's a cool map, but Shroomania's facing the wrong direction. Totally.

Unfortunately, some modification is required for the maps to all work.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

As a note, the Suez Canal does exist. A collaboration between Crimson Red Empire and the Byzantine Empire.

EDIT: With the blessing of Duchess, I am now a Tsardom.

[K. A. Pital]

Stas I have been thinking about our modern history and here is what I have so far.

After the conclusion of the Second Great war and the fall of The Shadow Empire and it's conquest by the Crimson Star Republic our two nations enter a period of Socialist Brotherhood for about 20 years. But due to the internal problems of the Crimson Star Republic you had to give the USSR autonomy and eventually independence. Since then our countries have had excellent relations with each other and our people shared a great love for each other which eventually culminated into the "Red Faction" alliance and the formation of the Slavic National Confederacy which was later joined by Fingolfin and PeZook.

How does that sound?

Yea, that could work. Kinda like modern Russia and Belorussia.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

Yea, that could work. Kinda like modern Russia and Belorussia.

Say Stas, I'd be interested in a massively long canal going through the Black Sea to the other side. Do you think its possible and want to jointly pursue it?

[CmdrWilkens]

Minor note but the USMC division in the build your military is now complete 21547 personnel later.

[Shroom Man 777]

PeZook: DUDE. You kind of... inverted Shroomania, mang. It's a cool map, but Shroomania's facing the wrong direction. Totally.

Unfortunately, some modification is required for the maps to all work.[/quote]

Yeah... but why can't Shroomania be horizontal? I'm okay with Shroomania's location on the map, but it's position is funny.

I mean, Shroomania could keep its original orientation and the map would still work. Right?

[Czechmate]

He has a point.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

Minor note but the USMC division in the build your military is now complete 21547 personnel later.

That division is huge. How many ships will it take to transport all of that? I would say easily 2 Wasps, and a few other LPDs like the San Antonio or the British Bay/Albion class.

[Norseman]

I'd like to do my Free Republic of Astria, kind of like the Free Republic of Pendleton if that makes sense. I hope to have something ready for posting this weekend.

By the way do I get a principality or a duchy? I read something about long term posters getting a nudge up if they're really close to the limit.

[PeZook]

I mean, Shroomania could keep its original orientation and the map would still work. Right?

Originally, Shroomania was placed to the north of Canissia. I flipped it because otherwise the Shroomish Channel would be the size of the Northern Sea

I can easily flip Shroomania back, no problem. I'll try to find some time today to do another iteration of the map.

Thanks to Shep and his handy New Continent map, I won't have to painstakingly assemble it, too, so I'll have some more time to fiddle with all the countries

BTW, Stas used an awesome font on his map in the first round. Can I know what it was? My labels look kinda sucky

[K. A. Pital]

BTW, Stas used an awesome font on his map in the first round.

Hoodge pixel font. There's lots of them. They're easy to find, but I could put one up for download if people would need them.

PHEW. I made an OOB. It's a slightly redacted RT OOB. Didn't have the time to do the math at all, so my military might be undersized for an Imperium, but so be it. Less the hassle of supplying it - and it's still 1,000,000 men so I hope that would be enough for war.

If I missed something, I'll try to fill that in later.

[Steve]

Full Orbat is up, I tweaked with it a little from my prior point-totaled version to account for support craft on the carriers and a few change-ups in the fleet, made up for it by cutting the numbers on the cruisers, destroyers, frigates, and corvettes. it's in the "Building Your Country" thread of course.

[Sea Skimmer]

That division is huge. How many ships will it take to transport all of that? I would say easily 2 Wasps, and a few other LPDs like the San Antonio or the British Bay/Albion class.

That division is big…it can take heavy losses and keep fighting, and by the time the Marines finish adding all the support elements it needs to become a Marine Expeditionary Force and not just a division, it would have over 30,000 men. That’s what it takes to bring a whole army in miniature, not just some fighting men, across a beach and onto shore.

In terms of shipping, way more then you’re thinking. In 1991 for the projected amphibious landing in Kuwait the USMC assembled 17,000 men to mount the operation, but this actually only amounted to two brigade landing teams plus one separate battalion landing team, not even a complete division. 31 major amphibious ships carried the force. At the time it took every amphibious warfare ship,in the USN, about 50 at the time, to transport one combat ready Marine Expeditionary Force!

Today’s amphibious ships are on average bigger, and Marine units are a bit smaller but your still looking at 30 ships to transport the division, probably close to 40 to transport it with all its attachments and air support. That means a divisions worth of life means buying a new amphibious warfare ship ever year to keep up numbers because each ships hull life isn’t longer then 30-40 years

If you only used big ships amphibious assault ships like Wasp, you could get 20,000 men into just 6 expensive ships… but you wouldn’t have nearly enough space to transport all the marines equipment, supplies and the necessary landing craft to move all that stuff onto the beach.

Now a dozen mixed amphibious warfare ships (buy 1 new one every 3 years) will let you assault land something like a very big brigade against the enemy, thats a pretty potent force for making a landing on any coast you want. You can bring in follow on forces MUCH more cheaply by packing them in RO-RO freighters and flying in the manpower.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

BTW, Stas used an awesome font on his map in the first round.

Hoodge pixel font. There's lots of them. They're easy to find, but I could put one up for download if people would need them.

PHEW. I made an OOB. It's a slightly redacted RT OOB. Didn't have the time to do the math at all, so my military might be undersized for an Imperium, but so be it. Less the hassle of supplying it - and it's still 1,000,000 men so I hope that would be enough for war.

If I missed something, I'll try to fill that in later.

Why not double the number of aircraft you have? I have more fighters than you have, mind you.