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Re: SDN Wars: A Galaxy Divided: OOC

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Man I need to get in on this trade pact thing. I may be a Sith Lord, but I still like earning money. :lol:
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OOB review status:

Following OOBs have been approved:

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Agent Sorchus
Master_Baerne
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Following OOBs have been reviewed and approved pending minor corrections:
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Coyote

Following OOBs have been vetoed:
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Following OOBs are currently being reviewed:
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Thanas wrote:OOB review status:
Following OOBs are currently being reviewed:
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Hey Thanas, want one of us (Coyote, Shady, me) to run your OOB through the number cruncher? I ask because, my personal policy is going to be that, in mod matters pertaining to me, I'd recuse myself. Of course I don't think anyone is going to say you'd be unfair regarding your own OOB (I certainly wouldn't) but it's probably not a bad policy to have in general.

Plus, it's one less OOB for you to deal with. :D
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I'm glad Thanas is in charge of economics, because apparantly I'm over-budget. I'll make some adjustments (I added a few things after I thought I was "done" and under-budget before). I'll probably just cut back a few ships here & there to bring it in line.

Left to me, the "maths" portion of this would be skewed all to hell.
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Thanas wrote:OOB review status:
Following OOBs are currently being reviewed:
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Hey Thanas, want one of us (Coyote, Shady, me) to run your OOB through the number cruncher? I ask because, my personal policy is going to be that, in mod matters pertaining to me, I'd recuse myself. Of course I don't think anyone is going to say you'd be unfair regarding your own OOB (I certainly wouldn't) but it's probably not a bad policy to have in general.

Plus, it's one less OOB for you to deal with. :D
Alright, you do it. I'll let you know when I am finished with my OOB.
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Thanas wrote:Alright, you do it. I'll let you know when I am finished with my OOB.
I suppose it's only fair that since it was my idea, I'm the one who gets to do the work. :D

Just send me a PM and I'll get to it when you're done.
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Thanas is a trustworthy guy and he has done a great job so far. I will agree though, that all matters pertaining a game mod should be handled by other mods. Just to keep things fair and so the players wouldn't feel at a disadvantage.
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Sorry, I'm having to pull the plug on this particular STGOD, at least for the foreseeable future. I haven't even been able to post a full orbat yet and its not looking like I ever will. Sorry for any inconvenience. Have fun everyone! :D
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OOB review status:

Following OOBs have been approved:

RogueIce
Karmic Knight
SiegeTank
Agent Sorchus
Master_Baerne
Fingolfin_Noldor
DarthShady
darthkommandant
Thanas (reviewed by RogueIce)

Following OOBs have been reviewed and approved pending minor corrections:
Shinn Langley Soryu
Beowulf
Mr Bean

Following OOBs have been reviewed:
Coyote

Following OOBs have been vetoed:
Czechmate

Following OOBs are currently being reviewed:
The Romulan Republic
AMT
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I believe mine should be in compliance now.

But then, I have th emath skills of a bug, so I may still have some fuzzy edges to it.
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I'm putting what I hope are the final touches on mine right now, but my math skills are lousy too, especially when I'm sleep deprived. So it will probably require some corrections as well. Right now I've somehow ended up between 2 and 3 hundred points over the maximum for my worlds, so I'm trying to trim off whatever I can.

Also, a little question regarding artillery: if I make divisions composed primarily of artillery, would those be equivalent to a typical heavy division, or what?

Also, if a planet in our control has a moon, does that come with the planet, or is it counted as a sepperate world?
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I was thinking of drafting a rough army plan soon, mostly made up of Star Wars "Warhammer 40K analogs" with Leman Russ tanks and Baneblades and Land Raiders and Predator tanks and what not. I will figure it out later.

I will deploy some medium armour in the form of hovertanks as well.
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The Romulan Republic wrote:I'm putting what I hope are the final touches on mine right now, but my math skills are lousy too, especially when I'm sleep deprived. So it will probably require some corrections as well. Right now I've somehow ended up between 2 and 3 hundred points over the maximum for my worlds, so I'm trying to trim off whatever I can.

Also, a little question regarding artillery: if I make divisions composed primarily of artillery, would those be equivalent to a typical heavy division, or what?
Those would be artillery brigades....but I wonder what you hope to gain by them. Generally, they would count as heavy, with a minus for not being redeployable, as well as suffering from having no cover.

Sure, count them as heavy, but be aware that when it comes to a fight you'll get a lot of problems, RP wise.
Also, if a planet in our control has a moon, does that come with the planet, or is it counted as a sepperate world?
Depends on the moon, for example Nar Shadda counts as a seperate world, whereas the Bakuran moon does not.
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Thanas wrote:OOB review status:

Following OOBs have been approved:
RogueIce
Karmic Knight
SiegeTank
Agent Sorchus
Master_Baerne
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DarthShady
darthkommandant
Thanas (reviewed by RogueIce)
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Following OOBs have been reviewed and approved pending minor corrections:
Beowulf
Mr Bean

Following OOBs have been reviewed:
Coyote

Following OOBs have been vetoed:
Czechmate

Following OOBs are currently being reviewed:
The Romulan Republic
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Thanas wrote: Those would be artillery brigades....but I wonder what you hope to gain by them. Generally, they would count as heavy, with a minus for not being redeployable, as well as suffering from having no cover.

Sure, count them as heavy, but be aware that when it comes to a fight you'll get a lot of problems, RP wise.
I don't know, most factions don't use artillery much in Star Wars, but I feel like it should play a bigger role. Obviously it has its weaknesses, but I would certainly protect artillery with other units as much as possible.

Either way, I'll worry about that if I ever actually have to RP a ground battle.
Depends on the moon, for example Nar Shadda counts as a seperate world, whereas the Bakuran moon does not.
Kind of redundant to mention it here since I just sent you a PM about this, but I am referring to Kessel's moon, since I currently control Kessel and I recall it has one.
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Well, during the Clone Wars, heavy artillery in the form of a giant turbolaser was quite well used.

On the other hand, that is probably the only Star Wars type artillery piece I will employ. I think deploying something like an Emperor Titan or a Warlord Titan to be really an overkill, never mind the hassle of having to modify a troop transport like the Star Galleon just to carry those monsters.
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The Romulan Republic wrote:
Thanas wrote: Those would be artillery brigades....but I wonder what you hope to gain by them. Generally, they would count as heavy, with a minus for not being redeployable, as well as suffering from having no cover.

Sure, count them as heavy, but be aware that when it comes to a fight you'll get a lot of problems, RP wise.
I don't know, most factions don't use artillery much in Star Wars, but I feel like it should play a bigger role. Obviously it has its weaknesses, but I would certainly protect artillery with other units as much as possible.

Either way, I'll worry about that if I ever actually have to RP a ground battle.
I think Artillery is a bit useless in Star Wars, except for the medium artillery we see in the movies, because if you have control of the space, you don't need that much artillery - just orbital bombardment.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Well, during the Clone Wars, heavy artillery in the form of a giant turbolaser was quite well used.
Yep.
On the other hand, that is probably the only Star Wars type artillery piece I will employ. I think deploying something like an Emperor Titan or a Warlord Titan to be really an overkill, never mind the hassle of having to modify a troop transport like the Star Galleon just to carry those monsters.
Also, you'd just be begging to get whacked by orbital bombardment or bomber strike with those monsters.
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Thanas wrote:Also, you'd just be begging to get whacked by orbital bombardment or bomber strike with those monsters.
Well, that's actually a combination of factors, and they have their own anti-air defences. Orbital bombardment will be the greatest threat, no doubt. That would be up to the orbiting fleet to safeguard space along with any ground based heavy anti-space artillery.

Of course, the necessity to deploy such heavy artillery implies that the target to be cracked requires significant firepower and that the orbiting fleet is either busy or in a midst of a siege.
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Thanas wrote:Also, you'd just be begging to get whacked by orbital bombardment or bomber strike with those monsters.
Well, that's actually a combination of factors, and they have their own anti-air defences.
Yeah, but so far no defence has been invented against a 200 GT blast.
Of course, the necessity to deploy such heavy artillery implies that the target to be cracked requires significant firepower and that the orbiting fleet is either busy or in a midst of a siege.
Sure, but then you might consider whether it be worth using it in the first place - after all, if you have to employ such heavy artillery to take the target, chances are not a lot of it will be left standing anyway.
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Thanas wrote:I think Artillery is a bit useless in Star Wars, except for the medium artillery we see in the movies, because if you have control of the space, you don't need that much artillery - just orbital bombardment.
Given the prevalence in Star Wars of theatre shields which can resist orbital bombardment by ships larger than any present in this game (ie, SSDs), and the sizable areas such shields can cover, I see nothing unreasonable in preparing for large scale conventional ground battles without a garuntee of orbital support. In such a battle, being able to deploy heavy or even light artillery (so rarely seen in most Star Wars militaries), could be an advantage.

My artillery is for the eventuality of fighting under a theatre shield, either to destroy the enemy's shield generator to allow orbital support to get through, or to prevent the enemy doing the same to one of my cities or something.
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Thanas wrote:Yeah, but so far no defence has been invented against a 200 GT blast.
Of course not. This is mostly against fighters and the assorted flies.
Sure, but then you might consider whether it be worth using it in the first place - after all, if you have to employ such heavy artillery to take the target, chances are not a lot of it will be left standing anyway.
Depends on the value of the target. If the target is beneath a high density shield and requires significant firepower, you'd bring all the guns you need to bombard the target to dust. There was at least one instance in the Clone Wars where bombardment lasted for months and didn't work.
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The Etti Alliance is officially looking for trading partners amongst the various star powers. Please inquire via here or PM if you don't want the trade pacts to be publically known. (The Etti Alliance believes in discretion)


Also, anyone with... *highly* placed Imperials in your line up should PM me as well, since you may recognize my character. :)
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AMT wrote:Also, anyone with... *highly* placed Imperials in your line up should PM me as well, since you may recognize my character. :)
That would be me, as I have the highest councilors and fleet commanders.
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