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For citizens on the F-ing they were never under the gun
What? As a direct result of the biowar, they had at least two outbreaks, one from a rogue Astarian baloon and the other from a Sheppo runaway! And you're saying "F-ing" was never under the gun?

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IIRC, Shep launched a missile at F-ing that landed in the middle of nowhere or something.

Shep also launched a shitload of missiles at Shroomania, which the Crimsons helped destroy.
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I think I might have mentioned San Dorado ADC shooting down at least one of Sheppard's sub-launched missiles. He did after all state he was deliberately targeting smaller nations so his diseases would spread from there across the globe.
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That's okay, Siege. It isn't so bad. Shep is just misunderstood, so we'll still be his superbestfriend and won't mind at all that he's not answering for his crimes. It's really not important that he tried to murder the fuck out of millions of people - including your country, or my own country. Because... well, your country or my country and the millions of people who are there... well, they AREN'T important.

I mean, sure, I'm not happy but hey, it's not TOO BAD, is it? :P

We could totally just try the sumbitch for warcrimes and see him hang. Or we could be aggravating CATO/MESS tensions and be overall pricks in defending a mass-murdering madmang. I don't know. Which choice do you think would be NICER? :P

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Well it looks like my citizens will be having "Try Shep Now!" rallies now that the OD has acknowledged he is alive.

On another note is anyone other than the NFT interested in Indhopal's cross continent road project?
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Raj Ahten wrote:Well it looks like my citizens will be having "Try Shep Now!" rallies now that the OD has acknowledged he is alive.

On another note is anyone other than the NFT interested in Indhopal's cross continent road project?
I'm interested in blocking it. Highways are a monstrously inefficient way to transport goods. A high-speed and frieght rail network would be far better.
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No, the OD said he's died 2 years after the Pathogen War.

And...Crossroads? Are you seriously going to send in special operators into MESS countries to do...something? That's asking for a massive cock-up that can lead to war.

Unless you simply meant your spies get a huge influx of money and orders to start digging.
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Raj Ahten wrote:On another note is anyone other than the NFT interested in Indhopal's cross continent road project?
The WSF which will soon arise might help your idea spread around. But I'll have to echo Ryan, why highways and not railways? (Damn, now I'll get accused of Union lobbying because we always favoured rail over road...) :)
PeZookia wrote:And...Crossroads? Are you seriously going to send in special operators into MESS countries to do...something? That's asking for a massive cock-up that can lead to war.
Crossroads is... well, he's damn brash. He entered the game with a naval exercise in all seas to affirm Crossroadia's position. Who knows what he's up to :)
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Raj Ahten wrote:On another note is anyone other than the NFT interested in Indhopal's cross continent road project?
The Vineyards would be willing to throw its support behind it, with the addition of a large scale rail network connecting the continent, similar to the one the that currently exists between the Vinish CFR, Mirata, the ASRF AFSR, and the Vineyards proper.
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The project is actually a combined road/rail corridor. I just got in the habit of calling it a highway project.

The reason roads are getting the spotlight is that the CFR's infrastructure is so crap that a highway might offer the advantage of having a trucks being able to exit the road at any point and navigate the less than ideal local roads.
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PeZook wrote:No, the OD said he's died 2 years after the Pathogen War.

And...Crossroads? Are you seriously going to send in special operators into MESS countries to do...something? That's asking for a massive cock-up that can lead to war.

Unless you simply meant your spies get a huge influx of money and orders to start digging.
Ach ye wee sculler, I already explained that, I aint doing anything so stupid, this be "Information gathering" Cause you can't always trust the news coming out of places. I aint sending people to go snooping around military places an the like, just going to a few mess nations and "Listening" very hard. Listening to what the people say, what people are murmruing about, rumors, things that may be afoot. Sure my spies will be getting much more money naturally, but as I said before, Im not initiating anything,.

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Crossroads is... well, he's damn brash. He entered the game with a naval exercise in all seas to affirm Crossroadia's position. Who knows what he's up to :)
Not ALL seas mind you as well, just one the ones to the east and west of me. Im right in the middle of those two big land masses you know, and it pays to have forces out on patrole.
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:And why the fuck are people covering for Sheppard, anyway?

Does SDNWorld Rufus Shinra think that it's cool for Loinstar to harbor Shep because they used to be buddies from an internet message board, even though in this new-world Shep's antagonism and aggression has caused the death of UNTOLD MILLIONS? Not to mention the fact that in the PREVIOUS WORLD he's caused even MORE DEATHS OF UNTOLD MILLIONS!

Mang.

Shep and Loinstar have been on various junkets in real life to nudge that firmly into the IRL Friends.
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And that makes being a megalomaniacal mass-murdering monster suddenly a-okay?

Come on! :(
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As I recall Shep also killed the fuck out of El Presidente / Lonestar with a nuke in game one. I thought that woulda put a bit of a damper on the best friends forever angle.
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El Presidente Lonestar wouldn't be happy with Sheppo ruining his little helicopter ride with a thermonuclear blastwave of death. :P
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:El Presidente Lonestar wouldn't be happy with Sheppo ruining his little helicopter ride with a thermonuclear blastwave of death. :P
I am reminded of the story of the Frog and the Chakotay.


Uhh....

The Frog and the Scorpion.
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Lonestar wrote:Shep and Loinstar have been on various junkets in real life to nudge that firmly into the IRL Friends.
:lol:

That's... that's not even silly, that's just out and out absurd.
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Crossroads Inc. wrote:Ach ye wee sculler, I already explained that, I aint doing anything so stupid, this be "Information gathering" Cause you can't always trust the news coming out of places. I aint sending people to go snooping around military places an the like, just going to a few mess nations and "Listening" very hard. Listening to what the people say, what people are murmruing about, rumors, things that may be afoot. Sure my spies will be getting much more money naturally, but as I said before, Im not initiating anything,.
Yeah, but are you doing "We'll insert commandoes covertly into various MESS territories", or "We tell our spies to shift their priorities"?

Because the former is stupid, unnecessary and guarantees an ugly incident at the least (because when you insert commandoes into a foreign country, you do it so that they can nuke infrastructure and take out crucial air defence nodes before an all-out attack), war at the worst. While the second is pretty par de course, guaranteed to be much more effective ("Hi, I'm Joe Commando, wearing my tactical gear and body armor. What can you tell me about MESS secrets?" :D) and of course deniable.
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SiegeTank wrote:As I recall Shep also killed the fuck out of El Presidente / Lonestar with a nuke in game one. I thought that woulda put a bit of a damper on the best friends forever angle.
Ah, but was that really Shep? After all, Bean blasted his brains out in the first game (surely Shroom remembers the Brain Matter Donuts he ate). It was claimed that was a body double who was killed, but how do we know it wasn't just a body double claiming that and the real Shep was dead? Rufus Shinra was more inclined to believe the latter.

As for the rest of the Murder-Death-Kill stuff from Shep, maybe it was Q who did that to him? After all, at the start of the game he wasn't that bad; certainly not so bad that Comrade Stanislav welcomed him in the OMSK Pact. It wasn't until he out of nowhere got a bug up his ass about Terra Libertia that things went down hill. But why the sudden change? Why did he keep getting more and more WMD-happy? Sure there's his board persona, but he wouldn'tm really do that in a RL scenario. And not in the way he seemingly spiraled down into it. I don't really remember what he was like on the board around whenever SDN World I started up, but at some point Mike Wong saw enough in him to make him a Horseman. So why the change?

Rufus Shinra puts it an as Q stacking the deck against us. He...did something to Shep to make him go all MDK happy. Q certainly had the ability, given the powers he's demonstrated in creating both worlds. And besides, after Sheppard "died" in this game is about the same time Marina (and Q) seem to have stopped messing with us for the most part. So maybe, just maybe, Rufus Shinra hopes Shep can 'redeem' himself with a new life and a new name: Rhee Ahn Sheppard.

Or so the self-justification goes. Which just goes to prove that you can justify almost anything to yourself if you want to. :D
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Ryan Thunder wrote: :lol:

That's... that's not even silly, that's just out and out absurd.
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RogueIce... man. That was really... man.

I think you should stick with cracking unfunny jokes in Testing. :P
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Eh. Well, if Rufus Shinra wants to go that far to rationalize second/third chances he's of course free to. I think it's pretty bizarre though to give someone a second chance after he tried to MDK the world like a poor man's Hugo Drax, especially not if ones rationale is 'he just kinda went crazy that first time', Q or not.

Oh, and of course this mindset also completely destroys Mr. Shinra's ability to credibly hold anything against anyone without looking like a total tool, but that I have less of a problem with ;).
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But that's awesome, though. Loinstar referred to himself in THIRD PERSON! Calling himself LOINSTAR ALSO! Man! :D

You guys are cool. :lol:

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So shroomy, like the MICHAEL JACKSON ANGLE? :mrgreen:
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SiegeTank wrote:Eh. Well, if Rufus Shinra wants to go that far to rationalize second/third chances he's of course free to. I think it's pretty bizarre though to give someone a second chance after he tried to MDK the world like a poor man's Hugo Drax, especially not if ones rationale is 'he just kinda went crazy that first time', Q or not.
Actually for the first one, that wasn't Shep who killed the world. It was his body double. Or rather, his body double as a puppet for some insane SAC general:

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