Steve wrote:Just to make sure people remember this, you can only use one GDP boost, nation wide, without having to match a Population boost to it. After that first boost all further GDP boosts must have a pop boost too.
A formula like this:
1 GDP = 0 Pop required
2 GDP = 1 Pop required
3 GDP = 2 Pop required
This is not per sector; this is nation wide. I want to make this completely, abundantly clear.
Following up there is an easy way to check if you have given yourself too much GDP...
For an NCP total of 26 pts the maximum possible GDP is 67,000
for 25 pts its 65,000
for 24 pts its 63000
for 23 pts its 61000
for 21 pts its 59000
Based on your relative NCP roll those are the physical maximums you can come up with for GDP. If you have given yourself more than that then you have probably either not accounted for NCPs correctly OR you gave yourself a GDP boost without matching a population boost (after the 1st).
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Grif wrote:So the start date is confirmed aye? Means I need to revise my nation's history quite a bit, since its formation also coincided (or raher, as an indirect effect) with the Chamarran invasion.
I'll take a mid-fringe position as well.(V9, 10, 11)
Then lets work something out. when did you think the Chamarran invasion occured Grif? and how did the invasion cause your nation to come about?
My nation was founded by a fear of similar invasion by the Chamarran. (ie. 3 separate star nations banded together to form the Argenti Federation) Safety in numbers and all that. This also assumes that any help from Earth and Nova Terra would likely be too late, given the relative distance and unimportance of the region. Come to think of it, it would be logical if my space is located close to the Chamarran space instead. Then it would have a legitimate worry.
As to when, well, I can adjust the date to whenever Steve/yourself set it. Though I think it would be preferable if it was a relatively recent thing, since I kinda wrote the story to make it one of the younger nations. Say, 300-400 years prior to the current setting?
400 years works fine, as among other things that's before the Solarians really get together and its when the New Anglians are occupied by the Dilgrud Wars.
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I want next to Shroom, for story purposes. Sorry, but I am currently too busy to write up a full nation.
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Thanas wrote:I want next to Shroom, for story purposes. Sorry, but I am currently too busy to write up a full nation.
Well, Siege was setting them up to take a corner (for Shroom, Fin, PeZook, Shady, and himself), but the corner he picked now has a catgirl presence, so he'll have to find something else I imagine.
I hope they do soon, then I can use the map makeup he seems to be planning to extrapolate on the Shoal regions across the map (since it includes "Wild Space".
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"No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism." - Sir Winston L. S. Churchill, Princips Britannia
American Conservatism is about the exercise of personal responsibility without state interference in the lives of the citizenry..... unless, of course, it involves using the bludgeon of state power to suppress things Conservatives do not like.
DONALD J. TRUMP IS A SEDITIOUS TRAITOR AND MUST BE IMPEACHED
Thanas wrote:I want next to Shroom, for story purposes. Sorry, but I am currently too busy to write up a full nation.
Well, Siege was setting them up to take a corner (for Shroom, Fin, PeZook, Shady, and himself), but the corner he picked now has a catgirl presence, so he'll have to find something else I imagine.
Given that Shroom and I will be allies, I better be situated next to him.
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A decision must be made in the life of every nation at the very moment when the grasp of the enemy is at its throat. Then, it seems that the only way to survive is to use the means of the enemy, to rest survival upon what is expedient, to look the other way. Well, the answer to that is 'survival as what'? A country isn't a rock. It's not an extension of one's self. It's what it stands for. It's what it stands for when standing for something is the most difficult! - Chief Judge Haywood
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"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN! Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people - PeZook Shroom, I read out the stuff you write about us. You are an endless supply of morale down here. :p - an OWS street medic Pink Sugar Heart Attack!
Steve, I can't recall if this has been covered... but in Home and Core sectors, you have "Planet +4", as in, one main Earthlike planet + 4 near-Earthlike or Terraformed planets.
What is the status of major space stations, like, space stations that are essentially hollowed out moons or things of that scale? Would that be considered a "terraformed" world?
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Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around! If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!! Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
Coyote wrote:Steve, I can't recall if this has been covered... but in Home and Core sectors, you have "Planet +4", as in, one main Earthlike planet + 4 near-Earthlike or Terraformed planets.
What is the status of major space stations, like, space stations that are essentially hollowed out moons or things of that scale? Would that be considered a "terraformed" world?
No. Fully terraformed worlds are basically the handful that could be made to be Earth-like or at least Near Earth-like conditions, such that they can sustain life without it needing external support and can also be used to provide for foodstuff creation (agriculture IOW). Some moons and such that aren't fully terraformed might still represent stuff like the Cowboy Bebop series' Mars or Ganymede. Stuff like asteroids hollowed out by centuries of mining might, if still being mined, contain four or five or even six digit populations, but fully terraformed planets are going to support 6-8 billion people. That's why a Home Sector's base population is 60 billion (12 per planet) and a Core sector's is 50 billion (10 per planet). Though of course 2-4 billion population is likely on smaller terraformed or partially terraformed planets and planetoids that aren't Earth-scale (stuff like Oceanic planets - think Lantea in Seasons 1-3 of Stargate Atlantis or Kamino from AOTC), space habitats, or in mining/resource extraction facilities on barren worlds, planetoids, asteroids, and moons (and the occasional survival dome colony built around mining operations).
Oh, and for the record, the CATO peeps have picked the lower right corner as their general area. I'd like them to get their firm number of sectors and desired relative placements determined so I can use their spot to set up Wild Space and other Shoal regions.
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"No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism." - Sir Winston L. S. Churchill, Princips Britannia
American Conservatism is about the exercise of personal responsibility without state interference in the lives of the citizenry..... unless, of course, it involves using the bludgeon of state power to suppress things Conservatives do not like.
DONALD J. TRUMP IS A SEDITIOUS TRAITOR AND MUST BE IMPEACHED
Thanas wrote:I want next to Shroom, for story purposes. Sorry, but I am currently too busy to write up a full nation.
Well, Siege was setting them up to take a corner (for Shroom, Fin, PeZook, Shady, and himself), but the corner he picked now has a catgirl presence, so he'll have to find something else I imagine.
I hope they do soon, then I can use the map makeup he seems to be planning to extrapolate on the Shoal regions across the map (since it includes "Wild Space".
As I am fully equipped with the ability to cut and paste (and it didnt take that long to mark my territory to start with) i'm not against moving myself discreetly to the SW quadrant if they have a greater and prior claim to the NW.
”A Radical is a man with both feet planted firmly in the air.” – Franklin Delano Roosevelt
"No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism." - Sir Winston L. S. Churchill, Princips Britannia
American Conservatism is about the exercise of personal responsibility without state interference in the lives of the citizenry..... unless, of course, it involves using the bludgeon of state power to suppress things Conservatives do not like.
DONALD J. TRUMP IS A SEDITIOUS TRAITOR AND MUST BE IMPEACHED
On second thought I wouldn't mind being a old nation that is right near the main Terran sectod would it fuck with anybody too badly if I moved my space a few over and down to be right next to the main sphere?
School requires more work than I remember it taking...
I think it's best for me to wait until the shoal regions are mapped out for me to choose the placement of my nation, as my current history basically just assumes that the Pfhor Empire grew up mostly behind one.
As a general idea, however I envision the Empire on one of the extreme edges or corners of the map.
"Minnesota has 10,000 lakes. This is roughly 4,000 times more lakes than people."
As soon as Siege, Fin, Shady, and Shroom decide where they want to be, I'll put them up and then can use their shoal region to extrapolate for the rest of them.
”A Radical is a man with both feet planted firmly in the air.” – Franklin Delano Roosevelt
"No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism." - Sir Winston L. S. Churchill, Princips Britannia
American Conservatism is about the exercise of personal responsibility without state interference in the lives of the citizenry..... unless, of course, it involves using the bludgeon of state power to suppress things Conservatives do not like.
DONALD J. TRUMP IS A SEDITIOUS TRAITOR AND MUST BE IMPEACHED
DarthShady wrote:Does that make you a friend of the Karlack Swarm as well?
Maybe.
What kind of nation do you have planned anyway?
The Sassanid Empire - a collection of nobles who fled from the Byzantine Empire some part prior and now "rule" over a dirt strip of planets. Highly isolationist and internally divided, non-expansionist and so far the smallest of all nations.
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I'm not too particular on where this will end up going, but if there's any part of the map that's going to have less densely packed people, that would be ideal; this nation hasn't actually made first contact with anyone else yet. If that's feasible, anyway. I'll be putting up more details about the composition of their military and worlds soon.
Quick question. Core world can be bumped up with NCPs, right? Is there a limit pointwise to how much they can be built up or not?
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Dark green = Karlack Swarm (Shady)
Red = Imperium of Man (Fingolfin_Noldor)
Gray = Bragulan Star Empire (Shroom Man 777)
Purple = Collectors (PeZook)
Blue = United Solarian Sovereignty (Siege)
Not sure how to fit Thanas in, but I'm sure we can find a spot for 'im. The lime green divider is Wild Space; I've kept it at a max of 1 sector in all places, but obviously we can RP it as being as big as we want.
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Fine with me, depending on the number of sectors I have I believe I shall be situated to the south or to the east, in which case The Sovereignty and I might share borders, if that is okay with you.
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A decision must be made in the life of every nation at the very moment when the grasp of the enemy is at its throat. Then, it seems that the only way to survive is to use the means of the enemy, to rest survival upon what is expedient, to look the other way. Well, the answer to that is 'survival as what'? A country isn't a rock. It's not an extension of one's self. It's what it stands for. It's what it stands for when standing for something is the most difficult! - Chief Judge Haywood
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I've switched the Imperium & Bragulans around since Fin & I are allies. Do note that I have no objections per se to sharing a border with the Sassanids.
If anybody wants to have some interesting past interactions with the Collectors in their history, feel free to PM me.
I envisioned first contact with the Solarians to have ended up in blood when a Collector scout ship encountered a colonization convoy, tried to talk in binary hash and ended up being shot down when it approached too close to the colony ships
My sectors are all shoals, BTW, with very, very few natural hyperspace lanes. From time to time, Collector ships emerge from this uncharted space following mysterious, odd or just plain crazy missions, like chasing down a mapping ship, abducting an astrographer, having a conversation with him and dumping him at his destination.
JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small. - NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
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MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
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I should write up something equally crazy too.
What kind of nation do you have planned anyway?
