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Must've been that time of month! :lol:
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:Must've been that time of month! :lol:
It was the three hours of sleep she'd gotten, actually.
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Taking bets on whether or not The Anglians will show themselves to be womanish plebes that they are and take off and run at a actual challenger. :D
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So...Fin...are your guys gonna let the Sirta Foundation sift through Janus' rubble to try and save some rare species of bacteria or not? :D
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I get internet tomorrow and will write a post on the Hiigaran's reaction to Shepistans Imperialism.
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PeZook wrote:So...Fin...are your guys gonna let the Sirta Foundation sift through Janus' rubble to try and save some rare species of bacteria or not? :D
Eh?

I guess sure. BUt really, we were pretty thorough with our jobs....

What on earth do you want the bacteria anyway?
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Yes, like Magister I decided to use the SSD to represent my Command Flagships. It's kind of logical that our designs would resemble one another's, y'know. Being neighbors and such. :wink:
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Ain't we stinkers?
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Lonestar wrote:Ain't we stinkers?
Given Anglia's backing down from annexation and offering a multi-national oversight of Pendleton? Methinks you're a little late. :P
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Speaking for Umeria, we weren't interested in hegemony and were fairly interested in killing slavers.

Aside from that, what we really wanted was an opportunity to get some of our best sensor suites close to the operations of several other powers' navies... :wink:
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Lonestar wrote:Ain't we stinkers?
Given Anglia's backing down from annexation and offering a multi-national oversight of Pendleton? Methinks you're a little late. :P
I'm sure we could have "multi-national oversights" of any chaotic systems ajoining ours as well, as Shroom the Bragulan Ambassador pointed out.
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Lonestar wrote:
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Lonestar wrote:Ain't we stinkers?
Given Anglia's backing down from annexation and offering a multi-national oversight of Pendleton? Methinks you're a little late. :P
I'm sure we could have "multi-national oversights" of any chaotic systems ajoining ours as well, as Shroom the Bragulan Ambassador pointed out.
If the Grand Dominion and Shepistan want to deal with craphole worlds in the Badlands we don't particularly care. Though I suspect in the case of the Bragulans launching such interventions on Wild Space systems may not be so feasible if the Sovereignty and Imperium object.

I'd actually imagined the reason the Outback has so many independent worlds is that the various neighboring states signed treaties creating spheres of influence and guaranteeing independence for various worlds. With the Outback I specifically mentioned an "Outback Treaty" that's 400 years old and was signed by the local states and the UN, guaranteeing the independence of worlds like Lochley's Retreat.

If the Dominion and Shepistan want to set off a rush for crappy worlds in the Badlands that will cost far more to garrison and control than they're actually worth, have fun. :P
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It wouldn't nessecarily be systems in Shoal regions, killer. I've already mentioned at least one(Meinhof) in Sector BB-1 that is will soon be home to a Dominion naval anchorage.
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I think Umeria and Tianguo might want to have words if Shepistan and the Dominion get too enthusiastic in the Badlands, so there is that to consider as well. I wouldn't think either of us is all that enthused about the prospect of our immediate neighbors going on an expansionist kick, for obvious reasons.
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Lonestar wrote:It wouldn't nessecarily be systems in Shoal regions, killer. I've already mentioned at least one(Meinhof) in Sector BB-1 that is will soon be home to a Dominion naval anchorage.
Sure. If nobody objects go ahead. Though outside of shoals, people might start, y'know, objecting.

Granted, Skimmer's not here to object about BB-1.

Just try to remember you can only push a precedent so far before the cover doesn't work. There's a difference between the invasion of Pendleton, a nation breaking international law on a large scale and of no strategic value, and trying to annex a system with a government that heeds to international law, has actual recognition, and a strategic value that your neighbors might not be pleased to see you possess.
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Simon_Jester wrote:I think Umeria and Tianguo might want to have words if Shepistan and the Dominion get too enthusiastic in the Badlands, so there is that to consider as well. I wouldn't think either of us is all that enthused about the prospect of our immediate neighbors going on an expansionist kick, for obvious reasons.

I don't give a good goddamn what Umeria thinks. :P
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Okay FL, it's time to bring this to an end. I've left the ball in your court; does Forg follow through or does he decide not to die needlessly and to cause the equally-needless deaths of his crew?

I'm perfectly willing to accept a good deal of casualties, both fatalities and people in need of intensive medical care from ruptured eardrums, damaged lungs, or from non-fatal doses of the gas. All I ask is that if you decide to have Forg hit the kill switch, you don't arbitrarily declare immediate and 100% success of the suicide maneuver. I mean, I fully expect a casualty rate of 50%, and half of those casualties being fatalities, but a 100% or near-100% death rate is a bit much.
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Lonestar wrote:
Simon_Jester wrote:I think Umeria and Tianguo might want to have words if Shepistan and the Dominion get too enthusiastic in the Badlands, so there is that to consider as well. I wouldn't think either of us is all that enthused about the prospect of our immediate neighbors going on an expansionist kick, for obvious reasons.
I don't give a good goddamn what Umeria thinks. :P
Good. We always prefer rational neighbors, but when dealing with someone bound and determined to behave as if they are our enemy, suicidal overconfidence is such a charming form of psychosis. It makes for short, victorious wars, you see.
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Lonestar wrote: I don't give a good goddamn what Umeria thinks. :P
Refusing to give a "god damn" what other nations/governments think about them is one of those Dominionite attitudes that transcends centuries and alternate worlds, it seems. :P
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Steve wrote:Refusing to give a "god damn" what other nations/governments think about them is one of those Dominionite attitudes that transcends centuries and alternate worlds, it seems. :P
If it becomes a matter of consequence, it can be addressed in due time. If not, it remains a charming cultural fillip.
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Simon_Jester wrote:Good. We always prefer rational neighbors, but when dealing with someone bound and determined to behave as if they are our enemy, suicidal overconfidence is such a charming form of psychosis. It makes for short, victorious wars, you see.
Ooooo Scary.
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Lonestar wrote:I'm sure we could have "multi-national oversights" of any chaotic systems ajoining ours as well, as Shroom the Bragulan Ambassador pointed out.
I even have names ready for the picking!
  • New Alliance of Free Stars
  • The Concordance of Alien Nations
  • The United Federation of Worlds
  • The Empire of Shepistan
  • The Empire of Bragule
  • The Empire of Tianguo
  • The Empire of Fairfax
The last four are basically a riff off of the "The Empire of {CaptainName}" in Star Control 2. :D
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What are those names for?

It's about damn time you posted that Loiny. :P

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Shroom Man 777 wrote:
It's about damn time you posted that Loiny. :P
I didn't want to influence Steve in whatever option he chose.
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