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It is rather fussy and a general pain in the ass. Go ahead and post in the history consolidation then.
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Eh, originally my new post was to be bigger, but it's late, I'm tired, and I don't feel like finishing it.
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With all these people noticing that the Pendletonians are getting help from the collectors it's going to look rather bad when none of the Nations involved know until we actually have to fight the Collector ship(s).
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Who's noticing? The only people who know the Collectors are involved are the Pendletonians themselves.

Though that will soon change. :twisted:
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It sounds like the Bragulans figured it out. But they've got their own networks, their own independent contacts with Pendleton, and their own close proximity to Collector space. And anything they know they won't tell anyone else.

So I think it's fair. Got no problem with Shroomy doing that.
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I thought there was someone else mentioning it, guess I was wrong.
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Thanas wrote:Hey Shroom, I thought I already reserved Robot Rivers for a storyline?
Yeah, but Simon_Jester's GLOW WORM space cowboy series is so reminiscent of that first episode, I was disappointed that we didn't see a cryogenically frozen Summer Glau in the doctor's box.

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Simon_Jester wrote:It sounds like the Bragulans figured it out. But they've got their own networks, their own independent contacts with Pendleton, and their own close proximity to Collector space. And anything they know they won't tell anyone else.

So I think it's fair. Got no problem with Shroomy doing that.
Well, to the rest of the guys involved in the operations, they don't really know much about the Collectors since the Collectors are basically stuck in the "Koruprulu Sector" (the place where the Collectors, Bragulans, Sovereignty, Imperium of Man, et al are located at).

But the Bragulans, along with the Sovvies and other parties native to the K Sector, like to keep a close eye on the Collectors and we occasionally try our hand at grabbing their tech. The Bragulans are kind of like Dick Dastardly in that fashion. :P

[I'd imagine when that Pendletonian representative asked the Collectors, Bragulan spies would've been about listening in on their conversations or at least monitoring the Pendletonians. The IBGV would totally be listening in on whatever transactions the Collectors made with Wild Space scumbags.]
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The first part of the overview of Araynism is up.
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:
Thanas wrote:Hey Shroom, I thought I already reserved Robot Rivers for a storyline?
Yeah, but Simon_Jester's GLOW WORM space cowboy series is so reminiscent of that first episode, I was disappointed that we didn't see a cryogenically frozen Summer Glau in the doctor's box.
That's sort of the idea- it's the point where the basic plot starts to diverge from Firefly significantly- well, either that or Inara's absence.

Like I said, the Technocracy looked at proposals to create unstoppable psychic assassins by torturing them horribly and threw the whole idea out the window as a really retarded plan centuries ago. I mean come on, think it over. Unstoppable psychic assassin who you just got done torturing. That's just asking for trouble.

You'll also note a few other differences, most of which I hint at here.

EDIT: Note that we see an example of this with Steve's Ebon Blade. We've got what appears to be a renegade Ebon Blade operative out for revenge against the man who put her in the order, and the order has to send someone completely different (and even more powerful) to haul her back in and torture her into line.

Multiply this by the size of the organization, and by the kind of backstabbing and such you likely see among the Ebon Blade's membership (since most of them have excellent reasons to hate each others' guts such as "you strapped me to a gurney and tortured me to a quivering wreck when I was fourteen")... it adds up to a huge waste of time and resources. Not to mention considerable personal risk to everyone in the organization that they'll get backstabbed.
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Shroom Man 777 wrote: [I'd imagine when that Pendletonian representative asked the Collectors, Bragulan spies would've been about listening in on their conversations or at least monitoring the Pendletonians. The IBGV would totally be listening in on whatever transactions the Collectors made with Wild Space scumbags.]
Well, it was unlikely they'd be able to listen in on Gill's conversation with Gamma, but if they maintan a presence on Pendleton, they probably know who's who, and their informants probably saw Gill going all high and mighty on a maintenance drone :D
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KlavoHunter wrote:The Shepistanis and Grand Dominion are ALSO extrauniversal drop-ins, they are from SDNW3.
The Sheppos and God-Damns(and the Tinguo, come to that) were colonies formed from Nova Terra(SDNW2) nations. Only the leadership(Specifically, Lord Fairfax, Alizabeth Bhatt, and the right-honorable General Sheppard) are drop ins from SDNW3.
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And first part of prologue posted. More to come.
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And yet more revelations. I'm now trying to figure how to "connect the dots" so to speak on the rest of the storyline. But I'd like to think everything is proceeding fairly smoothly.
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Lonestar wrote:
KlavoHunter wrote:The Shepistanis and Grand Dominion are ALSO extrauniversal drop-ins, they are from SDNW3.
The Sheppos and God-Damns(and the Tinguo, come to that) were colonies formed from Nova Terra(SDNW2) nations. Only the leadership(Specifically, Lord Fairfax, Alizabeth Bhatt, and the right-honorable General Sheppard) are drop ins from SDNW3.
*Smacks Shep around a bit for being so inaccurate*

So Shepistan managed to recover after being biobombed back to the stone age, and stopped being Muslim?
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Hmm...nope. The Sheppos were never really Muslim, for that matter. The Shepistani Federation and the Grand Dominion were formed by OICAS expats, mostly bankrolled by the Great Families of the Old Dominion that didn't want to lose their political power to the Nova Terran one world government. How the Shepistani Federation split from the Grand Dominion colony(but remained friendly) has been lost to the mists of time. :D


(IOW, we haven't thought that far)
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Steve wrote:At that, despite all the pain in her body, Kara broke out laughing, even against further pain of one of the agiels against her armpit. "...Don't need... to.... The Anglians are coming," she managed through the alternating laughter and cries of pain.
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LMAO!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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I haven't been to active yet and it's not looking to get better anytime soon so I may need to drop out. The D&D 3.5 campaign as well as other events outside of the sight are taking my attention and I'd rather focus on doing one game well than doing poorly at several games.

A-Wing, you have my permission to take care of the Sepan situation as needed. To keep hassle down, my nation can remain where it is and should it be needed for a story PM me and I'll make a post.

Sorry for dropping this, but seeing the effort the major players are putting in I'd rather not drag a good game down with half hearted posts.
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If you have to drop, that's one thing. But I don't think you should worry about "dragging the game down" by not doing massive story lines, Norade.

Some of us have the time and spare energy to put up 5000 word posts every few days. Some of us don't. It doesn't matter; the guy who's posting even a few little snippets can be a valuable contributor, just by virtue of giving other people something to react off of. It's much easier to role-play a nation convincingly when some of the neighbors actually do something once in a while, even if they don't talk about it a lot. Whereas when you're surrounded by what might as well be NPCs, it's a lot harder to come up with anything interesting to do.

So you're certainly not going to be dragging the game down by not being an active poster, and I don't think you should resign yourself to not coming back to it if-and/or-when you feel the inspiration and opportunity to be more active.
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Yeah, storylines are just one thing, but for STGODs not to devolve into Massive Multiplayer Fan Fiction, there needs to be intrigue and action and diplomacy, not all of which needs to be sheathed in 2000 word story posts :D
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True, I'll make a post dealing with the Sepan situation tomorrow then and see what happens for there. I'm just used to taking on a larger role in most games I'm in.
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I actually like how these Pendleton slavers, despite being slave-owning dicks, turn out to be quite human in having family matters and emotional problems and stuff, and conflicts, and how this Walter de la Poer guy actually wuvs his daughter (despite being a monster who sells people off to those Ebon Blade bitches!) and how Katherine's all conflicted now when all this dark stuff's revealed. You'd wonder how slave-owning people end up getting moral crises, when they're goddamn slave-owners! But, man, Steve writes convincing characters. When he's not fixated on lesbian Jedi. :P

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Yeah, man. You actually sympathize with de la Poer somewhat, which is rather surprising. He also shows Pendletonian dixie-state arrogance and myopia quite well, too ;)

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