OMG! Design the next USS ENTERPRISE (Offical Contest)

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Digesting these changes.

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I'm worried about the bussard collectors. Am I drifting too far into the fantastical and too far away from the practical?

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They're looking like mini-horns you've stuck on the front. I would definitely change/reduce those

Aside from that, the ship is a cracker; a design thats new and different but still comfortably familiar, a sweet model, nice smooth and rounded hull lines and some pretty heavy firepower too

The thing abotut he design being familiar is that this is supposed to be, what, the E-F or G? it should look like a evolution of Sovereign/Galaxy classes, ST ship design aesthetics won't have changed much in the 20 odd years until ST:O

Heck, if Kirk's E-Nil is anything to go by, the E-E might only just have been retired
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I tried to see if I got Chaotic's idea right but I used paint and only did a Side view.

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The front view would basically be the twin saucers with the deflector dish between them and the two warp pylons peaking out the side.
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Like I said to Chaotic, it's an interesting design but it's just too...out there
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Oh yeah, I just figured I'd give a visual of the idea. While I can use 3ds Max to a decent level having taken the course a few times in high school, I'm nowhere near this level so I'm not going to bother with my own design.
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I'm liking these:

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Enlarged Bussard collectors:
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The nacelles are also a bit thinner, and I've decreased the height of the neck slightly.
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A tad... smallish, I guess, but look fine.

I'm still not too happy with the nacelle design. They just dont look right. Maybe it's the blue areas being too rounded? I don't know, they look odd to me.
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Something like that, but I was thinking a saucer that's moved up more and doesn't go behind the deflector, and longer more Sovie nacelles that go farther back and all the way to the half way to front of the saucers.

The deflector could be beefed up too.
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Looks like a giant Vulture droid. (Clone wars)
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I'm trying to upgrade mine as well.

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Detailed deflector, altered collectors and secondary hull profile, plus minor details.
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I think yours looks great, CSJM. If it needs anything at all, perhaps some hull details on the secondary hull; especially on the bottom. Other than that, it looks really fucking cool.
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I'm working on that now, but I really can't find anything to add. Useless 'goblins' might provide some variety, but I'm really not sure what a Star Trek ship would have in such places. Underside of the Sovereign class is just hull plating and escape pods. Underside of the Galaxy class is a smorgasbord of single and dual windows facing in all directions. I guess I'll go with a mix of those.
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Yeah, some hull plating on the keel like structures or something just to break it up. All smooth isn't a bad thing, it just sticks out since the saucer has a lot of detail. Too much contrast there to look natural. Maybe a two turret battery on the bottom of both keels and some hull plating? I don't know.

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If you envision your warp cores in those keels, maybe ejection ports for the MARA?
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:shock: That is incredible. just the evolution of the design and...just wow.

I have to ask, though - why remove the secondary deflector? I was thinking that the justification for it (aside from it simply looking cool) is that, in the event of destruction of one or the other section post-separation, at least one may be able to limp home. After all - how bad would it suck to survive a fight with a cube and get destroyed by stupid comet dust?
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Chardok wrote:After all - how bad would it suck to survive a fight with a cube and get destroyed by stupid comet dust?
Lol!

It's mostly because I flattened the underside of the saucer, so it's not really visible from the front anymore.

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I'm thinking of thickening the neck and pulling it forward:
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Same as my othos above, but much larger with lots of marks and notations. I'll be updating it through out the day. Please feel free to add your two cents, and I'll make changes and render more perspective shots tonight.
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That looks freaking awesome!
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My website is still being flakey, so I'm hosting this on Facebook. Let me know when you start seeing my previously posted images again please. Thanks.

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Good read for the technical dos and don'ts:
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is that some sort of aperture(SP?) around the deflector? like an iris?
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Chardok wrote:is that some sort of aperture(SP?) around the deflector? like an iris?
No, but I rather like that idea.

How is it that the deflector dish doesn't deflect the particles that the bussard collector collects?
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Fuzzy_Modem wrote:
Chardok wrote:is that some sort of aperture(SP?) around the deflector? like an iris?
No, but I rather like that idea.

How is it that the deflector dish doesn't deflect the particles that the bussard collector collects?

Well, bussard collectors actually emit an inversion field equal to and opposite of the delfector field. Unwanted space debris is actually deflected from the path of the bussard collectors by channelling minute streams of anti-protons siphoned off from the warp core's M/AM reaction. it's sent out in pulses in a straight line via small devices in the collectors not unlike garden hose nozzels, rapidly rotating aroundthe circumference of the collectors which function as defacto deflectors.
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Practicing targeted smoothing. This is just a dry run. You'll notice some deformed polys.

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Chardok wrote:Well, bussard collectors actually emit an inversion field equal to and opposite of the delfector field. Unwanted space debris is actually deflected from the path of the bussard collectors by channelling minute streams of anti-protons siphoned off from the warp core's M/AM reaction. it's sent out in pulses in a straight line via small devices in the collectors not unlike garden hose nozzels, rapidly rotating aroundthe circumference of the collectors which function as defacto deflectors.
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Phantasee wrote:
Fuzzy, nothing is showing up, neither your linked image nor your inlined ones.
Does this work?
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