Which religion is the least harmful

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-10-14 01:48pm

Darth Wong wrote:The Jedi religion is the least harmful

Bah, they're almost as nutty as the Catholic Church. That whole a jedi shall not know love thing is a bad idea and the suppersion of normal emotions is stupid. It's a wonder they don't regularly produce ticking time bombs like Anakin.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-10-14 02:34pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:The Jedi religion is the least harmful
Bah, they're almost as nutty as the Catholic Church. That whole a jedi shall not know love thing is a bad idea and the suppersion of normal emotions is stupid. It's a wonder they don't regularly produce ticking time bombs like Anakin.

Ah yes, I forgot to mention that I preach Reform Jedi: knowledge of the Force combined with blanket authorization to engage in as much sexual activity as you want

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-10-14 02:38pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:The Jedi religion is the least harmful
Bah, they're almost as nutty as the Catholic Church. That whole a jedi shall not know love thing is a bad idea and the suppersion of normal emotions is stupid. It's a wonder they don't regularly produce ticking time bombs like Anakin.
Ah yes, I forgot to mention that I preach Reform Jedi: knowledge of the Force combined with blanket authorization to engage in as much sexual activity as you want

Now, that's a religion I can get back behind, in more ways than one.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2002-10-14 06:11pm

Darth Wong wrote:The Jedi religion is the least harmful

Of course since it doesn't actually exist, it can't be harmful.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2002-10-14 06:21pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:The Jedi religion is the least harmful
Bah, they're almost as nutty as the Catholic Church. That whole a jedi shall not know love thing is a bad idea and the suppersion of normal emotions is stupid. It's a wonder they don't regularly produce ticking time bombs like Anakin.
Ah yes, I forgot to mention that I preach Reform Jedi: knowledge of the Force combined with blanket authorization to engage in as much sexual activity as you want

I think they already allow Jedi to engage in sexual activity, as long as they don't become attached to anyone. Ki Adi Mundi has several wives and several children, for example.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-10-14 07:10pm

Darth Servo wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:The Jedi religion is the least harmful
Of course since it doesn't actually exist, it can't be harmful.

What makes you say it doesn't exist? It has a canon, it has a mythology, it is fairly well defined, and it has followers. That makes it a religion, as valid as any other religion.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-10-14 07:12pm

Hell, it's more rational and self consistant than a lot of religion.

And there are people that put it for their religion on the census.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2002-10-14 08:03pm

I'd guess that the most harmful religion is the worship of Ralph, the God of Porcelain.

Harmful in the sense that that much beer's not good for anybody's synapses...

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-10-14 08:28pm

Some of the less harmful religions and philosophies, in my experience, include Daoism, Confucianism, Buddhism, and many animist religions. All of these are not especially harmful because they try to stress the importance of the individual, and trying to have individuals act in a manner that may be considered non-harmful to other people at all times.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2002-10-14 08:33pm

Master of Ossus wrote:Some of the less harmful religions and philosophies, in my experience, include Daoism, Confucianism, Buddhism, and many animist religions. All of these are not especially harmful because they try to stress the importance of the individual, and trying to have individuals act in a manner that may be considered non-harmful to other people at all times.

I thought Daoism encouraged conformism.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2002-10-14 09:36pm

johnpham wrote:I'm catholic, but I'm thinking shinto or buddhism. Some none god based religion. However, reincarnation religions are weird since who cares what happens in your next life since you won't remember what happened in your previous life. Is the point of buddhism is to eliminate suffering in your present life by achieving nirvana?

Actually, Buddhism does have gods. Buddhism is sort of polytheistic, although no practicing Buddhist I know of takes the gods all that seriously. Shinto has the kami but they're seen more as "spirits" which are integral parts of the various natural elements than as actual "gods."

Personally, I find Asatru to be the least objectionable religion, or in the top ten with nature-based religions. Though it is polytheistic, Asatru has a distinctly non-evangelical stance, almost to the point of being exclusivist. The typical attitude of most Asatruar is, "Feel free to check it out, but if it isn't for you, no big deal."

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2002-10-14 09:38pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Darth Servo wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:The Jedi religion is the least harmful
Of course since it doesn't actually exist, it can't be harmful.
What makes you say it doesn't exist? It has a canon, it has a mythology, it is fairly well defined, and it has followers. That makes it a religion, as valid as any other religion.

By those terms, isn't the Dark Side outlook of the Sith also a religion? Can I start a Sith Church?

XPViking · Post by **XPViking** » 2002-10-14 09:47pm

Master of Ossus,

Actually, I've been under the impression that Confucianism stresses the importance of the group at the expense of the individual, not the other way around. Perhaps you mean that Confucianism clearly defines an individual's role in society which supports your "and trying to have individuals act in a manner that may be considered non-harmful to other people at all times.." statement.

XPViking

Raxmei · Post by **Raxmei** » 2002-10-14 09:59pm

What about Kibology?

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2002-10-14 10:07pm

Raxmei wrote:What about Kibology?

Beable.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2002-10-14 10:09pm

Iceberg wrote:
Raxmei wrote:What about Kibology?
Beable.

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Newtonian Fury · Post by **Newtonian Fury** » 2002-10-15 10:47am

Buddhism is indeed more of a philosophy than a religion when compared to Christianity or Islam. Buddhist monks believe in peace, preciousness of all life, and disengaging your emotion so they don't blind your judgement. Buddhists also don't eat meat. The religion also has an afterlife of sorts, but it's not of judgement, rather, transcendence. Even Nietzsche has wrote that Buddhism is superior to Christianity in The Antichrist. This is one of the few things that I agree with Nietzsche(:D).

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2002-10-15 11:15am

Darth Wong wrote:What makes you say it doesn't exist? It has a canon, it has a mythology, it is fairly well defined, and it has followers. That makes it a religion, as valid as any other religion.

I thought you were talking about the actual jedi order in the movies, as opposed to the fans.

BTW, you forgot that its 'founder' asks 'the faithful' to contribute large amounts of cash.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » 2002-10-15 12:16pm

Darth Servo wrote:I thought you were talking about the actual jedi order in the movies, as opposed to the fans.

BTW, you forgot that its 'founder' asks 'the faithful' to contribute large amounts of cash.

If by founder you mean GL, at least he gives the faithful value for money in the form of toys and movies and so forth - most founders seeking donations offer you, umm, oh that's right, an all expenses paid ticket to heaven (or something like that).

Shame that the Bible says that approach doesn't work.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 2002-10-18 09:31am

actually in the last Census of the UK i know a lotta ppl put down Jedi as their religon as a joke, if it got X amount of followers it has to become a regonised religon by law.

On a more serrious note i'd say that the least harmful religon is buddism, i've never in my life met a FundaMENTAList Buddist. They are nice ppl and the Budda's make great ornments

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2002-10-18 10:17am

Muad'Dib wrote:actually in the last Census of the UK i know a lotta ppl put down Jedi as their religon as a joke, if it got X amount of followers it has to become a regonised religon by law.

It needs to get tax-exempt status before it can become a genuine religion, at least according to South Park.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2002-10-18 11:32am

Doesn't anyone realize that "officially recognizing" any religion for the purpose of granting tax relief is a form of government endorsement?

Nick · Post by **Nick** » 2002-10-19 07:39am

Durandal wrote:Doesn't anyone realize that "officially recognizing" any religion for the purpose of granting tax relief is a form of government endorsement?

Yes, but they are actually fairly even handed about it :> (e.g. AFAIK, the council for secular humanism is a religion for tax purposes)

However, I do agree that they should just be assessed on their non-profit organisation status.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 2002-10-22 09:01am

Darth Servo wrote:
Muad'Dib wrote:actually in the last Census of the UK i know a lotta ppl put down Jedi as their religon as a joke, if it got X amount of followers it has to become a regonised religon by law.
It needs to get tax-exempt status before it can become a genuine religion, at least according to South Park.

Yeah in america, this is the UK

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