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http://www.dolord.com/

Saw the link to this in another thread and decided to investigate.

I know feel the blinding power of willful ignorance disguised as legitimate criticism!

I started with this:
Welcome to DoLord. This is not a doctrine versus doctrine site, as I believe anyone who believes that Jesus Christ is Lord will be saved and is equally important to this website. It is about a personal relationship with the Lord. If the title was not self-evident, the entire purpose is to glorify the Lord, by telling about Him.

If you are a Christian seeking a debate resource, an undecided person seeking guidance, or a hard core skeptic seeking to know more about the "opposition" this site is for you.
Sounds reasonable doesn't it?

Well, then you get THIS:
You are a non-christian. Let's say...you are an Atheistic 14 year old. You're looking through this site. You happen to turn to, say, Disputing Atheism. You read.

"'Atheism eliminates moral *yawn* law and blah blah blah, blah....*yawn* stealing from the *yawn*...comparable to and...*yawn*Chaos theory is*yawn*...blah blah yaddah yaddah yaddah...methane, hydrogen, blah, blah,etc, bacground radiation has *yawn* soundly...yadah yadah, blah, blah.
The End'

Now you're thinking:
Yeah, yeah, thats all fine and dandy...ok, now I'm unconfident with Atheism...so? Sheesh. Thanks for ruining MY day.
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This is the part of the site where I tell you what the True alternative is. That is Christianity.


That pushed me to the edge, but his critiqueing of other religions is what sent me over.

WICCA


Wicca is the new teen thing. Teens all over are becoming Wicca. What is it about it? We'll see.

THE RELIGION

Wiccans are a form of Pagan Witchcraft. They believe God has two parts, God and Goddess. They believe that Jesus was a great teacher, but was not God. They cast spells, though it is strongly against their belief to hurt people using them. Like many religions, one can be a wiccan and still have a variety of beliefs differing from other wiccans. Some wiccans believe in more than one God. Some believe in no God. This religion has some undefinitives, but all members practice witchcraft. It is a recent thing among teenagers, along with Gothic. Wiccans basically follow old customs of the Celtic empire.

THE DIFFERENCES

Wiccans are ot Christians. They do not accept Christ as a deity, and do not acknowledge the deity of Christ. Witchcraft is prohibited in the bible.

PROBLEMS

Wiccans deny Christ as a deity, and perform witchcraft, which is strictly prohibited in the Bible. The cast spells and, should the spell succeed, the power used is the power of Satan. It is impossible for a Wiccan to be a true Christian, since they deny Christ as God, and thus a Wiccan is not saved.

OTHER

Luckily, since Wiccanism is a 'fad' and is basically practiced by teenagers, many of them will give it up later in life. Unfortunately, in the arrogance of adolescence, many teens cannot be swayed for the time being.

the following are pages I found helpful in creating this page:

www.religioustolerance.org/witchcra.html
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BUDDHISM


Buddhism is a religion following the beliefs of Buddha, a philosoper of ancient China.

THE RELIGION

Buddhism is a very diverse religion, with all sorts of practices and beliefs. There are 'Four Noble Truths' as Buddhists call them, that all Buddhists have in common. 1. Suffering and pain are a natural part of the world. Only by addressing the problem can they be fixed. 2. Suffering has a cause, and that is human ignorance. 3. Suffering can be destroyed by eliminating the cause. 4. The cause can be eliminated by virtue, discernment, and concentration, and that you must see yourself as unimportant and be completely non-self-centered. So, basically, Buddhists believe that becoming perfect can end all the suffering in the world. Other than that, there are a variety of other beliefs, basically in the 'whatever suits you' perspective.

DIFFERENCES

Buddhism believes that virtue is good, like Christianity, but goes a step forward by saying that virtue is all that matters. They also belive in a diversity of types of buddhism, so some may believe in reincarnation, while others may believe people are just giant flowers. Both would be right, since it is 'Whatever suits you'. There is no belief in Christ and his atonement for sins, thus a Buddhist is not a Christian.

PROBLEMS

Buddhism does not accept Christ as savior. Other than that, problems arise. Buddhists focus on taking all the attention away from themself. Doing this, they must think constantly about it. They are thinking about making themselves not think about themself. In other words, they are contradictory. They strive on making themselves perfect through not focusing on themselves. Who are they focusing on making perfect? Themselves! Therefore, not only does Buddhism clash with Christianity, it also clashes with reason!

The following pages were found helpful in the making of this page:
http://www.tricycle.com/buddhistbasics/ ... abcs2.html
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As usual in all that drivel he doesn't attempt to explain why not accepting Christ is wrong. When boiled down his entire argument will collapse into 'you must believe in the word of the Christian Bible because the Christian Bible says so.' A candidate for retroactive abortion if ever I saw one...


And for god's sake don't invade those fsckwits until you guys have finished with CreationWeb. Only an idiot fights a war on two fronts.
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Enlightenment wrote:As usual in all that drivel he doesn't attempt to explain why not accepting Christ is wrong. When boiled down his entire argument will collapse into 'you must believe in the word of the Christian Bible because the Christian Bible says so.' A candidate for retroactive abortion if ever I saw one...


And for god's sake don't invade those fsckwits until you guys have finished with CreationWeb. Only an idiot fights a war on two fronts.
"And only the heir to the kingdom of idiots, fights a war on sixteen".

We need to follow through on our invasions and finish off our current opponents before we start invading more boards. Especially when they could backtrack us.
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True. Besides, there are only 7 members on that board. And I know that at least one is from here.

Though with stuff like this:

"but that is what makes our religion so amazing, we are not "forced" to do anything. we can go to heaven or hell. you can live for God, and have him bless you, on heaven and earth. or you can forget you know a God, and live like it's all about you. it's all a choice. and we're blessed to have that "

Stupid git, threat of punishment or reward is force. Only without consequence does a person's actions show his true nature. I really want to lay waste. But I'll hold back for now.
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What a moron, I noticed two problems immediatly. The Buddha was Indian, and the cause of suffering is desire not ignorance.
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We can fight a war on two fronts in this case. We have enough willing members to volunteer to debate for either. I say we let the board grow, and finish with the bigots at CreationWeb first.
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That site is a popup fest! There's no way I'm going there.

Besides, it's a complete ghost town, seven members, and at least two are Men of Reason. That leaves five - five possible fundies, who won't be bothering with posting there, anyway.

Anyway, the site owner is certainly evil and that forum deserves extinction.
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WICCA


Wicca is the new teen thing. Teens all over are becoming Wicca. What is it about it? We'll see.

THE RELIGION

Wiccans are a form of Pagan Witchcraft. They believe God has two parts, God and Goddess. They believe that Jesus was a great teacher, but was not God. They cast spells, though it is strongly against their belief to hurt people using them. Like many religions, one can be a wiccan and still have a variety of beliefs differing from other wiccans. Some wiccans believe in more than one God. Some believe in no God. This religion has some undefinitives, but all members practice witchcraft. It is a recent thing among teenagers, along with Gothic. Wiccans basically follow old customs of the Celtic empire.

*twitch*twitch*

Just because someone is Wiccan does not mean they cast spells, as this moron certainly thinks. And as far as it being a "thing among teenagers," if they don't like it, they don't go with it. And very quickly, at that. Most stick with it for quite a while, tho. And of course it follows the old Celtic ways! *slaps forehead* Where the hell does he think it came from!?
THE DIFFERENCES

Wiccans are ot Christians. They do not accept Christ as a deity, and do not acknowledge the deity of Christ. Witchcraft is prohibited in the bible.
No shit....
PROBLEMS

Wiccans deny Christ as a deity, and perform witchcraft, which is strictly prohibited in the Bible. The cast spells and, should the spell succeed, the power used is the power of Satan. It is impossible for a Wiccan to be a true Christian, since they deny Christ as God, and thus a Wiccan is not saved.
That we do, but again, there are some that do not perform spells and curses as outlined here. And of course a Wiccan can't be a "true Christian"! It's an entirely SEPARATE religion!!!
OTHER

Luckily, since Wiccanism is a 'fad' and is basically practiced by teenagers, many of them will give it up later in life. Unfortunately, in the arrogance of adolescence, many teens cannot be swayed for the time being.
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Take a look at this load of bulls**t.
A: God commanded Noah to take everything that's "nostrils breathe the breath of life" onto the ark. Wouldn't that include dinosaurs? Doesn't this disprove the entire flood theory, therefore making the Bible invalid?

My answer is a definite NO.
It is a debated fact that lizards never stop growing till they die. In the Bible, it says that man used to live for numerous years (mathusela lived for over 900!). It is safe to assume that animals would too. If a lizard could live for 900 years, don't you think it would get big, much like a "terrible lizard" (greek for dinosaur). After the flood, life spans decreased. The lizards Noah took on the ark would breed, and die. Lizards would live shorter lives.
http://www.dolord.com/
So dinosaurs were just overgrown geriatric lizards???
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I claim the dubious responsibility of posting the link to this board.
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Well, as per the usual, they got my religion entirely wrong and twisted it to be something that it isn't. Typical...
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ArthurDent wrote:Well, as per the usual, they got my religion entirely wrong and twisted it to be something that it isn't. Typical...
They're fundamentalists. The bible doesn't exactly leave room for thinking and cosidering. It's just worship God or suffer. Is it any suprise people like this are the result?
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Petronius Maximus wrote:Take a look at this load of bulls**t.
A: God commanded Noah to take everything that's "nostrils breathe the breath of life" onto the ark. Wouldn't that include dinosaurs? Doesn't this disprove the entire flood theory, therefore making the Bible invalid?

My answer is a definite NO.
It is a debated fact that lizards never stop growing till they die. In the Bible, it says that man used to live for numerous years (mathusela lived for over 900!). It is safe to assume that animals would too. If a lizard could live for 900 years, don't you think it would get big, much like a "terrible lizard" (greek for dinosaur). After the flood, life spans decreased. The lizards Noah took on the ark would breed, and die. Lizards would live shorter lives.
http://www.dolord.com/
So dinosaurs were just overgrown geriatric lizards???
I'd be laughing if I weren't so incredibly pissed off. :evil:
Ah by his analogy: We know that humans can live for 100 years that means that it is safe to assume that animals would too. So that means that mayflies can live 100 years too.

What a complete moron.
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Post by Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi »

Even if there are only 5 fundies on the board, the total stupidity is enough to consider an invasion. We'd only need one intellegent person, and there are already 2 there, so I'm thinking we should ignore them, unless they overwhelm the two smart people there.
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I'll keep a watchful eye on the board until Invasion is decided upon. I'll make a poll on this board. Unless, the decision is ready here?
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Petronius Maximus wrote:Take a look at this load of bulls**t.
A: God commanded Noah to take everything that's "nostrils breathe the breath of life" onto the ark. Wouldn't that include dinosaurs? Doesn't this disprove the entire flood theory, therefore making the Bible invalid?

My answer is a definite NO.
It is a debated fact that lizards never stop growing till they die. In the Bible, it says that man used to live for numerous years (mathusela lived for over 900!). It is safe to assume that animals would too. If a lizard could live for 900 years, don't you think it would get big, much like a "terrible lizard" (greek for dinosaur). After the flood, life spans decreased. The lizards Noah took on the ark would breed, and die. Lizards would live shorter lives.
http://www.dolord.com/
So dinosaurs were just overgrown geriatric lizards???
I'd be laughing if I weren't so incredibly pissed off. :evil:
I remember posting about a creationist on TV saying this very thing, and the (fortunately small) audience believed him!

Hoo boy.
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Antediluvian wrote:
Petronius Maximus wrote:Take a look at this load of bulls**t.
A: God commanded Noah to take everything that's "nostrils breathe the breath of life" onto the ark. Wouldn't that include dinosaurs? Doesn't this disprove the entire flood theory, therefore making the Bible invalid?

My answer is a definite NO.
It is a debated fact that lizards never stop growing till they die. In the Bible, it says that man used to live for numerous years (mathusela lived for over 900!). It is safe to assume that animals would too. If a lizard could live for 900 years, don't you think it would get big, much like a "terrible lizard" (greek for dinosaur). After the flood, life spans decreased. The lizards Noah took on the ark would breed, and die. Lizards would live shorter lives.
http://www.dolord.com/
So dinosaurs were just overgrown geriatric lizards???
I'd be laughing if I weren't so incredibly pissed off. :evil:
I remember posting about a creationist on TV saying this very thing, and the (fortunately small) audience believed him!

Hoo boy.
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Post by Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi »

So, dinosaurs are overgrown lizards? Perhaps if my cat lives long enough, it will become a lion! :roll:

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