SBollinger, you worthless piece of slime ...

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-06 01:57am

The Dark wrote:
verilon wrote:
XaLEv wrote: Hiroko is an ASU student and friend of Raoul's. Clark said some rather nasty things about her which she didn't take kindly to.

And wasn't Saturn a lesbian?
Ummm....no. That was Uranus (oddly enough) and possibly Neptune. And that was never actually brought into the open, it was simply implied.
Thought it was pretty open in the Japanese, the puritans here just couldn't handle it?

GUess not.

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2002-11-06 02:00am

verilon wrote:
XaLEv wrote:
verilon wrote:Just as a side note, is that Sailor Saturn form SM, or am I just really off tonight?
Hiroko is an ASU student and friend of Raoul's. Clark said some rather nasty things about her which she didn't take kindly to.

And wasn't Saturn a lesbian?
Ummm....no. That was Uranus (oddly enough) and possibly Neptune. And that was never actually brought into the open, it was simply implied.

Right. I remember now.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-11-06 03:48am

You have been banned from this forum
Please contact the webmaster or board administrator for more information

Yayyy

And all i said was

What the hell were you thinking?

Trying to shut down SD.Net is not very wise.

Have you ever heard the phrase;
"People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"

Moderator's note: Calling someone a coward in a topic title, well that's a banning-sb/chris seibold

Stupid fickbrains think I started that thread. They are unbelivably dumb and stupid.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-06 04:01am

WOOT! You are SO in my email!

EDIT: Whose post was the first one there? I KNOW someone's post got deleted!

EDIT: Never mind...I realized it was Archon/Stormy's post.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-11-06 06:57am

Durandal wrote:He banned my entire university, I think.

You did a good thing for your university.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-06 06:58am

His Divine Shadow wrote:
Durandal wrote:He banned my entire university, I think.
You did a good thing for your university.

This makes point NINE for my letter...

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2002-11-06 09:06am

Whoa... buncha shit happened last night. Well, if I was better at debate, I would go over there and make a point, but however, I am not. So, I find the whole thing rather rude. But those of you STILL over there, don't get banned by doing something stupid. Just keep your eyes open and debate logically. That way, when you get banned, it will be for a very non-legitimate reason.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-06 09:08am

Kelly Antilles wrote:Whoa... buncha shit happened last night. Well, if I was better at debate, I would go over there and make a point, but however, I am not. So, I find the whole thing rather rude. But those of you STILL over there, don't get banned by doing something stupid. Just keep your eyes open and debate logically. That way, when you get banned, it will be for a very non-legitimate reason.

We are....we are...which is why NecronLord's ban has come up already. It was noy supposed to happen.

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2002-11-06 09:22am

verilon wrote:
Kelly Antilles wrote:Whoa... buncha shit happened last night. Well, if I was better at debate, I would go over there and make a point, but however, I am not. So, I find the whole thing rather rude. But those of you STILL over there, don't get banned by doing something stupid. Just keep your eyes open and debate logically. That way, when you get banned, it will be for a very non-legitimate reason.
We are....we are...which is why NecronLord's ban has come up already. It was noy supposed to happen.

Ah, but he mentioned SD.net. Obviously Bollinger is going to hate anyone who mentions us. So, what could we call him? Racist? Homophobic? Stupid? Predjudice? Oh, there we go. He's quite predjudice.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-06 09:28am

Kelly Antilles wrote:
verilon wrote:
Kelly Antilles wrote:Whoa... buncha shit happened last night. Well, if I was better at debate, I would go over there and make a point, but however, I am not. So, I find the whole thing rather rude. But those of you STILL over there, don't get banned by doing something stupid. Just keep your eyes open and debate logically. That way, when you get banned, it will be for a very non-legitimate reason.
We are....we are...which is why NecronLord's ban has come up already. It was noy supposed to happen.
Ah, but he mentioned SD.net. Obviously Bollinger is going to hate anyone who mentions us. So, what could we call him? Racist? Homophobic? Stupid? Predjudice? Oh, there we go. He's quite predjudice.

How about, "all of the above"?

Also, they're taking threads from over here and pulling them out of context to use over there. They fear me. They really do:

creationistalltheway wrote:
Hmmm...I only hacve three comps out of the entire university IP banned....So many comps, so little time....they'll neve rget rid of me. In fact, I'm over there now. Sorta. And anonymizer.com requires me to PAY THEM to view threads. Which means I'll have to switch comps after midnight tonight to do some more damage. In the meantime, I'll just hang out, and create more email addresses for the purpose of destroying CW.org. And happenstance they ban all comps on this campus, there's always the community college next door. Like I said, they'll NEVER get rid of me. I've already been banned twice, y'know.
Does it need to be more straitforward?

I

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2002-11-06 09:48am

That's what fundies do. They take what you say out of context, not tell what else is going on around it. They see what they want to see and nothing else. They have on blinders.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-06 09:59am

Kelly Antilles wrote:That's what fundies do. They take what you say out of context, not tell what else is going on around it. They see what they want to see and nothing else. They have on blinders.

If that is the proper word for it (yes, I know, equestrian thing, gimme a break...).

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2002-11-06 01:21pm

verilon wrote:
The Dark wrote:
verilon wrote: Ummm....no. That was Uranus (oddly enough) and possibly Neptune. And that was never actually brought into the open, it was simply implied.
Thought it was pretty open in the Japanese, the puritans here just couldn't handle it?
GUess not.

It's just that they don't show it physically(kissing, ect). I remember seeing the episode where, apparently, they finally realize their feelings for each other. It made me laugh my head off.

Why? Because I was watching the dub, where the censors try to hide their relationship by making them cousins. Problem was, they left 100% of the WAFF-iness in the dialogue.

Of course, the funniest thing about the SM anime is Zoicite and Kunzite(/Malachite). When the first season was dubbed, they made Zoicite into a woman, to cover his relationship to Kunzite. The worst part about it, is that their relationship was totally made up for the anime, and is not in the original manga!

Utsanomiko · Post by **Utsanomiko** » 2002-11-06 04:19pm

Master of Ossus wrote:His board is likely a ghost town because of his policies of banning people who disagree with him, and bring up better points than he does.

This is old, but I thought I'd comment on it.

What's really pathetic about the board is not only that the top 6 members (3-4 of them moderators) contribute a third of the MB's posts, but also considering that out of the top 50-70 members (everyone with over 5-10 posts, I think. Now that's pathetic.), at least 15-20 are part of the Anti-Troll Jihad.

Good gravy, it's not a message board, it's a three-month-old, six-person chatroom discussion, just with a bunch of people who drop by and immediately leave.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-11-06 04:33pm

Kelly Antilles wrote:
verilon wrote:
Kelly Antilles wrote:Whoa... buncha shit happened last night. Well, if I was better at debate, I would go over there and make a point, but however, I am not. So, I find the whole thing rather rude. But those of you STILL over there, don't get banned by doing something stupid. Just keep your eyes open and debate logically. That way, when you get banned, it will be for a very non-legitimate reason.
We are....we are...which is why NecronLord's ban has come up already. It was noy supposed to happen.
Ah, but he mentioned SD.net. Obviously Bollinger is going to hate anyone who mentions us. So, what could we call him? Racist? Homophobic? Stupid? Predjudice? Oh, there we go. He's quite predjudice.

actually i never mentioned SD.net or the ATJ.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-06 05:22pm

NecronLord wrote:
Kelly Antilles wrote:
verilon wrote: We are....we are...which is why NecronLord's ban has come up already. It was noy supposed to happen.
Ah, but he mentioned SD.net. Obviously Bollinger is going to hate anyone who mentions us. So, what could we call him? Racist? Homophobic? Stupid? Predjudice? Oh, there we go. He's quite predjudice.
actually i never mentioned SD.net or the ATJ.

You simply had a the misfortune to post in my thread that got nuked.

Antediluvian · Post by **Antediluvian** » 2002-11-06 07:41pm

He tried to shut us down?

Isn't that grounds for complaining to his webhost to shut him down?

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2002-11-06 08:00pm

Antediluvian wrote:He tried to shut us down?

Isn't that grounds for complaining to his webhost to shut him down?

Not really. However, it could well be grounds for a harassment suit if he tries again.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2002-11-06 08:01pm

Antediluvian wrote:He tried to shut us down?

Isn't that grounds for complaining to his webhost to shut him down?

His webhost is probably one of those right wing "freedom of speech" webhost. You know, those that cater to right wingers and their bullshit.

Lord_Xerxes · Post by **Lord_Xerxes** » 2002-11-07 02:14am

Make a record/list of every prejudicial thing he posts/does. Then fire back against his webhost with it.

Post by **Coyote** » 2002-11-07 05:29pm

Posted: Thu Nov 2002 Post subject:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

THE DEBATE

1: DEBATE WILL TAKE PLACE VIA E-MAIL
2: DEBATE WILL BEGIN AS OF 0900 (9:00AM) SATURDAY MORNING, US EASTERN STANDARD TIME (GMT +7hrs.)
3: DEBATE WILL BE POSTED PUBLICLY AND UNALTERED AT BOTH STARDESTROYER.NET AND CREATIONWEB.ORG.

For StarDestroyer.net, we present:

2 Gladiators: WeeMadAndo and Durandal

5 Judges: Neoolong, Vympel, NecronLord, Coyote, Yogi

Judging criteria: 1-10 scale based on:

Effective use of Evidence
Clarity of Communication
Staying on Topic/Relevancy
Convincing
Civility

Anyone can coach or supply additional research as needed, but outside sources (books, articles, etc) must be accredited. No proof from "some guy's cousin I met at a party".

(if there are no objections, I will post this within the next four hours)

Sorry for the three repeat posts, I just wanted to get the threads where interested parties gather most. --'Yotie.

Post by **Coyote** » 2002-11-07 05:42pm

A CORRECTION--

If WeeMadAndo is willing, Verilon will take the fight via e-mail, since Verilon cannot post over there and WeeMadAndo can. Durandal and Verilon will be able to carry out debate without worry of Bollinger's jackboots, while those of us who still have access to CreationWeb (myself, Yogi, NecronLord, WeeMadAndo and others) will maintain our ongoing campaigns in the open.

Onward to victory, destroy Fundie Force!

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-07 05:50pm

Coyote wrote:A CORRECTION--

If WeeMadAndo is willing, Verilon will take the fight via e-mail, since Verilon cannot post over there and WeeMadAndo can. Durandal and Verilon will be able to carry out debate without worry of Bollinger's jackboots, while those of us who still have access to CreationWeb (myself, Yogi, NecronLord, WeeMadAndo and others) will maintain our ongoing campaigns in the open.

Onward to victory, destroy Fundie Force!

Actually, since I am at a college campus, I can simply switch computers, and *poof* instant access to CW.

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-11-07 06:13pm

verilon wrote:
Coyote wrote:A CORRECTION--

If WeeMadAndo is willing, Verilon will take the fight via e-mail, since Verilon cannot post over there and WeeMadAndo can. Durandal and Verilon will be able to carry out debate without worry of Bollinger's jackboots, while those of us who still have access to CreationWeb (myself, Yogi, NecronLord, WeeMadAndo and others) will maintain our ongoing campaigns in the open.

Onward to victory, destroy Fundie Force!
Actually, since I am at a college campus, I can simply switch computers, and *poof* instant access to CW.

And I'm banned.

Like fully BANNED.

But I can go into Uni/Work and keep fighting!

Post by **Coyote** » 2002-11-07 07:56pm

Wow! I'm sorry, WeeMadAndo, I was under the impression that you were still active. If that is the case, then when it comes time to deploy (see the new and updated Rules of Engagement post on "Debate at CW.org" thread) Verilon can have my place on the Judge's Panel since I may have Army Reserve duty during part of the debate anyway.

That being the case, I can patrol their territory at my liesure while you guys carry on the fight via e-mail, and as I stumble across anything they're planning that might be of interest to you, I'll cut & paste it.

In the Rules of Engagement I never outlawed reconnaissance of enemy territory; it would be impossible to detect or prevent without banning, which is not in our principle. Besides, they seem reluctant to come here much, it seems they find us a tad too free-willed. And, of course, they won't find anything they didn't already know; namely that their moderator SBollinger is very dictatorial in his position of power.

May the Force be With You!

"Three sides has the Force, yes. The Light Side, the side of peace, calm; the Dark Side, the side of ambition, desire. And the Fundie Force, the side of intolerant moronism. Do not let it dominate you, for forever will your mind will be smooshed."
--Lord Yotie, Great Jedi Master of planet Doggobah