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Here are some posts by a troll named Franko from the JREF forums.
Suppose that Nothing existed at All!

I mean Absolutely NOTHING – no universe, not one speck!

SO you’d have utter and total Nothingness …

Here’s my Question … How much of this Nothing, would you have?

Would there be a “Lot” of Nothing, or just a little bit? I mean … would Nothing be just a tiny little speck? … If Nothing were just a tiny little speck, doesn’t your mind naturally, kind of want to imagine that tiny speck in a larger volume of space? In other words, the instant you imagine that Nothing is very small, haven’t you also imagined that small Nothing inside a larger Nothing?

… So if there was Nothing … how much Nothing do you think there would be? Wouldn’t it, kind of have to be a LOT of Nothing? Maybe an Infinite amount of Nothing ... ?
A description of Franko made by a member of that board. Shows how stupid that troll is.
It is Franko's current zinger (in his mind) against atheists everywhere.

He comes up with a new one (or two) every week. They are all pretty mild.

Current ones:


changing our names a little (Whopeedonme?, Upchuck, etc)
A-theist instead of atheist
TLOP
2+2=4
X+Y-Z=15

etc.
But wait, this is nothing compared to Franko's big brother, Jedi Kinight:
How did the universe start, atheist? It didn't start with Big Bang Mysticism.

JK
Yes, that happens to be all. No proof, no nothing. A naked statement. But, this is the post that almost made my eyes pop out of their sockets :shock:
Originally posted by Bjorn
You seem to be a bit slow here:

Yes, a body 'floating in outer space' has gravity. How much, depends on the mass of the body.

If another body, travelling through space, comes close enough, the bodies will influence each others speed and course, maybe to the point that one of them starts orbiting the other.

I think you skipped some lessons in physics.

Again, take my friendly advice and drop the topic - you are making a fool of yourself.
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This is way too easy. Bjorn, if I roll a marble down a hill on one side of the road and roll another marble down the same hill at the same time on the other side of the road, do the marbles affect each other's mass?

Do the marbles emit "gravity" or does "gravity" rule the marbles?

If I take the same marbles and send them into space and they pass each other, with their courses be affected? Absolutely not.

If you took physics, I am laughing at you thinking you learned something.

Let me teach you some things about Physics, Bjorn. If you take your "body" and put it on Pluto, would it "weigh" the same?

Just have to love atheist "mysticism" lol. Your "body weight" comes from something Bjorn, and it is not your body. That is the whole point of what I am talking about.

I will say it again since everyone is ignoring it either because they don't understand it or fear trying to reply to it:

The Big Bang is so much pseudo-science that I can hammer the theory in one simple post.

Does "space" have mass? Does it? We know "gravity" is generated by stars--does "space" generate gravity?

If I have two particles (The Big Bang Theory) of opposites and they connect and create a "universe", what was the "gravity effect" that brought those particles together to start it all? Was there a sun? There couldn't be because that is "something from nothing" (spontaneous generation mystical science).

Take it a step further--let's say that the two particles did "mystically" start the big bang. Let's also say that those two particles inhabited 1 cubic meter of space. Where did that cubic meter come from? Since there was no gravity, how did the particles meet? Did the two particles float in the cubic meter of space and eventually wander into each other causing this massive release of energy that created the universe?

How much "space" existed to allow the two particles to "mystically exist"? Given the size of the universe, the two particles must have originated in the same area of space, a very limited area, potentially a microscopic area.

Now, if any of this is true, that means that the "explosion" that started the universe started from a centralized location--a focal point. Where is this focal point (starting point)?

The universe is trillions of years old. But I bet The Big Bang Theory makes it easier not to think about it lol. Kind of like psychic dowsing.

Simple question--where did the "space" come from that allowed the two "particles" to exist to "create" the universe?

JK
There's more to it.
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Originally posted by The Fool

Jedi, Let it go man, you are making yourself look silly. You are starting to sound like you have been drinking Paint thinners again.
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Let what go--the scientific mysticism I am reading from Bjorn?

Let me ask you a simple question, Fool. If you are sent into outer space without a space suit, does your body create "gravity" in zero gravity?

Or does it...come apart?

JK
And more
Gosh, my body, according to Bjorn, creates "gravity". I guess I can fly to Mars and walk around the surface of the planet without a spacesuit!

JK
And more
No Jedi, You should let go asking stupid questions. Do you understand that gravitational attraction is something that comes as part of a package deal with mass? If you and I were floating in deep space our bodies would be attracted to each other. (kind of creeps you out doesn't it) Because we are relatively low mass the gravitational atraction would be quite small. Now you answer me a question. What is different between mass in a star and mass in any other form, why would you think one (the star) generates a gravitational force and another not?????? Were you not paying attention in high school science?
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Your body wouldn't be attracted to mine in zero gravity. What BS are you trying to throw around Fool! Our bodies may randomly run across each other if the body fluid eruptions propelled them on the same course after zero gravity death. But we would not create gravity to attract each other.

JK
If you aren't laughing by now, nothing will help you
Jedi,
You've been smoking something?

Sorry Jedi, but you are totally, completely wrong.

The marbles will affect each other, and they have gravity.

Bodies in space have gravity - more mass, more gravity.

The astronauts were 'lighter' on the moon than here on Earth because the moon has less mass and therefore less gravity than the Earth and .... oh, why try.

Jedi, do you have someone else in the house that you can ask? This is the most ignorant I have ever seen you, and coming from me ...
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The marbles didn't affect each other. I could roll one marble down one side of the road and it would behave the exact same way as if I rolled one down the other side of the road. The "marbles" obey the laws of physics. They do not create gravity. Gravity governs the marble. Anything with mass obeys gravity. Gravity is created in the universe by stars and the motion of the planets orbiting stars. That is where gravity comes from.

Now, explain to me how my body is going to create gravity so I can go to mars without a space suit and walk on the planet without one.

JK
Jedi,
The spacesuit is not doing anything whatsoever to the gravity or lack of it. It is providing you something to breathe, protection from elements and so on - but sorry, no gravity.

The gravity comes from the body you are standing on, Mars.
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Talk about people smoking something lol. Bjorn, if you are in zero gravity, does your body create gravity?

JK
Sure Bjorn, and if I roll a marble down the highway in California in will affect the one I roll down the highway in Florida, won't it?

This is the best comedy I have read by Bjorn in a very long time.

JK
Sure Bjorn, and if I roll a marble down the highway in California in will affect the one I roll down the highway in Florida, won't it?

This is the best comedy I have read by Bjorn in a very long time.

JK
Gosh, so you are saying that if your body is floating near Saturn it will attract mine floating near Mars.

Jesus this is the most hilarious crap I have ever heard.

Gravity is "weight", right Fool? Your body "creates" weight in space (creates gravity)?

Better pass the pipe to Bjorn lol. This is hilarious!!!!!!!

JK
Repeat:

All bodies have gravity, also the marbles. However, the immense gravity from the Earth makes it difficult for us to see and measure how the marbles affect each other.

Comedy? Yep it sure is!

I still have difficulties believing that you are so ignorant. I think we should make this a separate thread so more people can enjoy?
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The marbles don't affect each other Bjorn. They obey, they do not order.

JK
Jedi, I cannot believe you don't understand something so basic, You are really making yourself look stupid. For Christ sake stop posting stupidity, punch "gravity" into a search engine and do some reading........
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Oh I get it. The universe revolves around humans because of all the "gravity" we create LOL. How stupid of me.

JK
No wonder Bjorn was sending me PMs of gratitude when I helped him deal with this troll. :P
Well, there's more, but I'm not posting it. go to http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/forumdis ... &x=14&y=13 for more fun posts.

As for me, I've got to debate these fools :shock:

Have a very nice day.
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Actually, the first quote is a good question by itself. As for the rest, what the fuck kind of moron is he?
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What a fucking moron.
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:shock: :shock:
F=m1m2*G/d^2

F=ma

Which part of the equations doesn't he understand?

Why can't I get a moron like that here?
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Well, that was fucking stupid.
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:cry: :cry: :cry:


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I found something even more funny. JK claimed that Martin Luther (not King) was an atheist. :D

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fgalkin wrote:I found something even more funny. JK claimed that Martin Luther (not King) was an atheist. :D

Have a very nice day.
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I stopped at the Franko's Zinger part.
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This caused me to almost fall out of my chair:
They are atheists if they do not recognize other religions. Monotheism is the belief in a single religion. Atheism is the lack of belief in all religions but your own, and the removal of all religions from the state but your own.

JK
News flash, JK: The 9/11 hijackers weren't atheists- they were muslim.
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They were atheists (secular) to all other religions, making them immoral. They are just like atheist kooks.

JK
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Captain Lennox wrote:I stopped at the Franko's Zinger part.
Then, I talked about another moron, JK, who claimed that objects don't create gravity. :roll:

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Oh bloody hell...

How can someone actually think this...I mean is this a product of neglect or far too many hits to the head?
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I read some of his stuff. All I can say is that I've taken more productive shits.
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They are atheists if they do not recognize other religions. Monotheism is the belief in a single religion. Atheism is the lack of belief in all religions but your own, and the removal of all religions from the state but your own.

JK
Off to my sig it goes,

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*Twitch twitch...

Be glad no one ever said something utterly idiot in my person otherwise I might have to do somthing I have had to due for ever ten years now and with my luck that fucker will be waaaaaaaaay to big from my trunck and I gave away all my burlab sacks!

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fgalkin wrote:
They are atheists if they do not recognize other religions. Monotheism is the belief in a single religion. Atheism is the lack of belief in all religions but your own, and the removal of all religions from the state but your own.

JK
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:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Warned you about the JREF trolls, did I. Listen you did not. That is why you fail...
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Hotfoot wrote:Warned you about the JREF trolls, did I. Listen you did not. That is why you fail...
I did not fail yet. There is still hope. If JK doesn't refute my points, then it's concession accepted time. :twisted:

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You may recall my stupidity scale from the "Today's Genius Trekkie (2002-11-09)" thread:

10^0 - Average idiot
10^1 - High school dumbfuck
10^2 - Moron
10^3 - Rabid Trekkie
10^4 - Politicians
10^5 - Creationists
10^6 - Georege W. Bush
10^6.5 - Jack T. Chick
10^7 - WCOTC
10^8 - Suicide bombers
10^9 - Elite Fitness trolls
10^10 - Theoretical maximum limit of stupidity

I now have a new addition:

10^11 - Jedi Knight

An investigation into how it is possible to be this stupid is currently underway. Current theories indicate that this may be the long-awaited proof of the nonexistance of God. The argument goes something like this:

God: I refuse to provide proof that I exist, for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.

Man: But Jedi Knight is a dead giveaway. Nobody could possibly be that stupid and live. That proves that you exist and therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.

God: Oh dear, I didn't think of that. :vanishes in a puff of logic: :)
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Some evil overlord has been experimenting with an orbital mind control laser....

The only explanation for all the dumbasses running around out there.
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Personally, I think they're thinking this deep in their minds:




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Okay, I am now a suppourter of Euthanasia of the Dumb.

I'm talking a Priority One, code ID10T here!
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Suppose that Nothing existed at All!

I mean Absolutely NOTHING – no universe, not one speck!

SO you’d have utter and total Nothingness …

Here’s my Question … How much of this Nothing, would you have?

Would there be a “Lot” of Nothing, or just a little bit? I mean … would Nothing be just a tiny little speck? … If Nothing were just a tiny little speck, doesn’t your mind naturally, kind of want to imagine that tiny speck in a larger volume of space? In other words, the instant you imagine that Nothing is very small, haven’t you also imagined that small Nothing inside a larger Nothing?

… So if there was Nothing … how much Nothing do you think there would be? Wouldn’t it, kind of have to be a LOT of Nothing? Maybe an Infinite amount of Nothing ... ?
He had a pretty good ideia by this time, but probably his brain short-circuited while thinking about this. Hence, it's utter stupidity and complete disregard for basic physics laws. I can imagine him suddendly falling and the floor in a featal position, hands on the brain and yelling:
"No, no, no, it can't be true!!! I have no mass!!!"

Dumbshit. BTW, I pity the whatever educational system that "educated" this idiot.
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Jedi Knight misunderstands scientific theories, and repeats the same argument, even when evidence against it is shoved up his ass. He also lies about Atheists, almost as bad as those fundie kooks from http://www.tencommandments.org
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