Conspiracy Theories -- Which Do you believe?

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Petrosjko wrote:
Solauren wrote:
Morilore wrote: Snip
Ah, missed that one.

Yes, great idea! Hire some talent to create viruses. Viruses wipe out data all over the place.

Then the freelancer goes public with his ties to Symantec or whoever... as such people are wont to do, the damned loose cannons, and the legal and economic reprecussions are... unpleasant. Not to mention the potential jail time for various corporate officers.
I meant as in before they founded there current companies or got there current jobs.

You know "10 years ago I was a member of Phalcon/Skism, 9 years ago I was tossed in jail, 6 years ago I got out, 1 year ago I got my masters in programming, and this year I work for Mcafee"


Hmmm, probabably shouldn't have mentioned Phalcon/Skism.
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Solauren wrote:I meant as in before they founded there current companies or got there current jobs.

You know "10 years ago I was a member of Phalcon/Skism, 9 years ago I was tossed in jail, 6 years ago I got out, 1 year ago I got my masters in programming, and this year I work for Mcafee"


Hmmm, probabably shouldn't have mentioned Phalcon/Skism.
Pardon my lack of specificity. I was referring to the original theory, not your reply.

The principle of 'hiring the thief to catch a thief' is a time-honored one practiced in many institutions.
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Cosidered yourself pardoned. (grin)

'Catch a thief' is probable why Kevin M has his own company now....
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RedImperator wrote:
mplsjocc wrote:Although the sarcasm was 'neat'. You can't be certain for 100% that my fun little conspiracy is completely false. You never know. That's why it's a conspiracy theory and not fact.
I can't be 100% certain an invisible fire-breathing dragon isn't reading this over my shoulder, either. The fact that neither I nor anyone else can 100% disprove any asinine conspiracy theory doesn't lend any of them or their adherents one iota of credence.
Just look over your shoulder... :roll:
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mplsjocc wrote:
RedImperator wrote:
mplsjocc wrote:Although the sarcasm was 'neat'. You can't be certain for 100% that my fun little conspiracy is completely false. You never know. That's why it's a conspiracy theory and not fact.
I can't be 100% certain an invisible fire-breathing dragon isn't reading this over my shoulder, either. The fact that neither I nor anyone else can 100% disprove any asinine conspiracy theory doesn't lend any of them or their adherents one iota of credence.
Just look over your shoulder... :roll:
Ooops.. missed the invisible part. I guess the the stench would give it away though..
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mplsjocc wrote:
mplsjocc wrote:
RedImperator wrote: I can't be 100% certain an invisible fire-breathing dragon isn't reading this over my shoulder, either. The fact that neither I nor anyone else can 100% disprove any asinine conspiracy theory doesn't lend any of them or their adherents one iota of credence.
Just look over your shoulder... :roll:
Ooops.. missed the invisible part. I guess the the stench would give it away though..
He's borrowing Carl Sagan's invisible, incorporeal, floating, heatless-fire breathing dragon, you dunce. :roll: There IS no way to prove it's there; the only thing that says one is there is blind belief.

By the way, ever heard of "burden of proof," moron? If you make a statement, the burden of proof on your statement is on YOU. It's up to you to prove your statement, not up to everyone else to disprove your statement.

Example: If I say my conspiracy theory that the ACC refs have been intentionally screwing over Georgia Tech (which is hardly a conspiracy theory since most people here believe it) I'll pull up examples from games. I don't say, "Well, you can't be 100% sure it's false."
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There is one conspiracy theory that working quite well though.

"Bush is a good president."
Just look at the elections results. Over 50% of Americans believe this to be true. :twisted: :D
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mplsjocc wrote:
mplsjocc wrote:
RedImperator wrote: I can't be 100% certain an invisible fire-breathing dragon isn't reading this over my shoulder, either. The fact that neither I nor anyone else can 100% disprove any asinine conspiracy theory doesn't lend any of them or their adherents one iota of credence.
Just look over your shoulder... :roll:
Ooops.. missed the invisible part. I guess the the stench would give it away though..
It's a thought exercise, you numbskull. No matter how you suggest I prove the dragon exists, I can come up with a reason that won't work. Stench? What stench? Dragons have no smell, didn't you know that? Why isn't the room on fire? Because it's magic fire that isn't hot. Why hasn't he crushed the sofa? Well, he's a flying dragon. Why don't I hear his wingbeats? Because he doesn't really fly, he floats. And so on ad nauseum. The point is it's impossible to prove a negative, and so my inability to prove your conspiracy doesn't exist does not validate it. The burden of proof rests squarely on you. Either you have proof of your conspiracy, or your belief in it is as irrational as belief in unicorns, Santa Claus, and invisible fire breathing dragons.
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Solauren wrote:Cosidered yourself pardoned. (grin)

'Catch a thief' is probable why Kevin M has his own company now....
I'm not involved with that particular community, but my understanding is that Mr. Mitnick's greatest talent lies in self-promotion and glibness.
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RedImperator wrote:The point is it's impossible to prove a negative, and so my inability to prove your conspiracy doesn't exist does not validate it. The burden of proof rests squarely on you. Either you have proof of your conspiracy, or your belief in it is as irrational as belief in unicorns, Santa Claus, and invisible fire breathing dragons.
I feel it's necessary to point out, it's not impossible to prove a negative, and that is something of an urban myth. The problem comes with unfalsifiable claims, in which case, you're absolutely right, you can't "prove" they're wrong, there's just no reason to accept them, and doing so is irration.

But yeah, it's easy to prove negatives if they are falsifiable. If a binary switch is on 1, it also isn't on 0, you have proved it isn't on 0 by virtue of it being on 1.
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mplsjocc wrote:I believe there is a cure for HIV and Cancer, but the pharmaceutical corps. make too much money off the medications that keep the people alive.
This seems like a common theme amongst a lot of conspiracy theories: the idea that the world would be a much better place, but for the secret evil machinations of some evil corporation/government agency/illuminati-esque group.
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Actually i believe that the aliens abduct us and try out there new sex toys on us and then make us believe it was actually "Anal Probing" then they sit up there and laugh their butts off when we sit here and think it was a test.

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Maybe this falls under "Urban Legends" but there's always a Taco Bell conspiracy theory somewhere in any given city that supposedly involves a location that was busted by the health dept. because an employee decided to to something very, VERY nasty with the beans. :shock:

I've talked to no less than five different people who claimed that they worked at THE Taco Bell where it happened. I've spoken to countless others who knows somebody or knows someone who knows (Insert title; Manager, Health Dept. Guy, etc) and it's always the same story, but never the same location. I've come to the conclusion that it's Fucking Bullshit. :evil:

I would also think that an act of such extraordinary magnitude would be eaten up by the media if it were to be made public, much like the content of many other conspiracy theories.

Personally, I don't eat there any more. Real Mexican food is getting cheaper all the time. :P
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Mario1470 wrote:Maybe this falls under "Urban Legends" but there's always a Taco Bell conspiracy theory somewhere in any given city that supposedly involves a location that was busted by the health dept. because an employee decided to to something very, VERY nasty with the beans. :shock:

I've talked to no less than five different people who claimed that they worked at THE Taco Bell where it happened. I've spoken to countless others who knows somebody or knows someone who knows (Insert title; Manager, Health Dept. Guy, etc) and it's always the same story, but never the same location. I've come to the conclusion that it's Fucking Bullshit. :evil:

I would also think that an act of such extraordinary magnitude would be eaten up by the media if it were to be made public, much like the content of many other conspiracy theories.

Personally, I don't eat there any more. Real Mexican food is getting cheaper all the time. :P
Basically the same story was repeated about Pizza Hut around here.

Considering the massive week-long hullabaloo over the maggots found in a chicken sandwich from another chain locally, I seriously doubt something like that would slide below the radar.
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:shock: :shock: :shock:
How do you prepare food and not see something like that???

I want to vomit now. But don't feel guilty, I've been drinking tonight anyway. :? :oops: :wtf: :mrgreen:
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Mario1470 wrote::shock: :shock: :shock:
How do you prepare food and not see something like that???
Negligence.
I want to vomit now. But don't feel guilty, I've been drinking tonight anyway. :? :oops: :wtf: :mrgreen:
Bloody drunkard. I hope you were at least doing your duty and drinking a wretched Daidoji under the table.
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Petrosjko wrote:I hope you were at least doing your duty and drinking a wretched Daidoji under the table.
Sorry, no...Yoshi won't let me fuck with the Crane.

Back on topic real fast, I also have to throw out the conspiracy theory about Princess Diana and how MI6 supposedly knocked her off. Talk about nutty shit, pilgrim! :twisted:
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Conspiricy theories are a form of mania, its fueled by an irrational belief that there 'must' be meaning behind events, they can't be random.

Now for my contribution

MSG (the food additive not the game) is a mind control drug, purposfully put in our food to make us more docile.

This ones more insidious because its admitted to be a mind altering substance, in reality it just tells your brain that what your eating tastes good. Put MSG on it and a moldy stick will taste good. But thats all it does, unless (like me) you have an alergic reaction to it. Me MSG turns me into Foamy the Squirrel on crack.
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Setesh wrote:Conspiricy theories are a form of mania, its fueled by an irrational belief that there 'must' be meaning behind events, they can't be random.

Now for my contribution

MSG (the food additive not the game) is a mind control drug, purposfully put in our food to make us more docile.

This ones more insidious because its admitted to be a mind altering substance, in reality it just tells your brain that what your eating tastes good. Put MSG on it and a moldy stick will taste good. But thats all it does, unless (like me) you have an alergic reaction to it. Me MSG turns me into Foamy the Squirrel on crack.
MSG is a 100% natural by-product of soybeans that has been in use in China for about a thousand years.
I have no doubts that you're alergic to it, and "100% natural" of course does not equate with "100% good", but people have some seriously fucked up beliefs about it with zero basis in reality.
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"Mono...so....monoso..."

"... Monosodium glutamate. You can't even say it."

"I can say rat droppings. That does not mean I want to eat them."

I remember fears back in the late '80s-early '90s that MSG was a factor in hyperactivity in children. I didn't necessarily believe it, however.
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I'm surprised no one brought up the 2000 and 2004 elections in the USA.

Like this one.
http://www.bushflash.com/gta.html

Actually, let's go nuts. THE US CAUSED 9/11!
http://www.bushflash.com/buddy.html

There's some really good animation on that site (try poisonous legacy...) But some of it defintely follows the conspiracy theory edge.

The idea that the US 2004 election was hijaked always causes me concern. I've never seen absolute perfect proof for it. But I'd like to see a solid debunking of this one myself.
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