CaptJodan wrote:wolveraptor wrote:How would God be afraid of rebelliousnes? He's fucking God. With a snap of his holy fingers, he could cause everyone's own skeletal structure to start attacking them. Their ribs could suddenly tear free from the body, splitting the sternum down the middle, and eventually pull free altogether.
That would totally kick ass to see, though.
Which makes me wonder why God waits forever to kill Satan too.
I don't think these religions were made to be good intellectual excercises.
What we're supposed to believe is that God wants us to live and live beside him. True, with a snap of his fingers he could not only kill those rebelling, he can probably change the minds of those rebelling, and control them. But that's not, it is said ,what God wants. He wants us to worship him by choice. Blind faith, really.
Your last sentence, of course, is the truest statment anyway. But for me and perhaps Mag here, I guess this is part of the process of unlearning what we have learned. Intellectualizing it sure helps to debunk it, huh?
Yeah, I see the point.
You know, I'm still on the bibleforums.org (I enjoy several different forums, from the Christian, this site, flashlight forum, cycling forum, bass guitar forum) and someone started a thread that most didn't like on there, and of course I took the side of the original post. He was saying that the idea of Hell isn't really even in the bible, the literal Hell. He mentions that it isn't even in the Old Testiment at all, and that the idea is more figurative (as most of the Bible seems to be). Of course, harsh critisism of his thought, for if it were true, there wouldn't be any "vengence of those who commit sin".
Anymore, I seem to be poking holes into the mainstream fundamentalist viewpoints, and except for those on that forum that are obviously not Christian, I stand pretty much alone. I look at some of their beliefs (now) as being rather simple minded, . . . .close minded, . . . . 'brain washed'. . . .
My opinion is, if there is a true God, that entity has nothing to do with the Jewish people, and that they centered their possitive and negative experiences to either God's blessing or correction of them. The God of the OT, and the concept of a God of 'unconditional love' is in conflict with each other.