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Curious, how would you respond to this message:

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This attitude is quite scary. If "evolution supporters" believe that scientific research is threatened by Creationists and/or IDers, how long will it be before religious beliefs show up in DSM and believers are adjudicated into the mental health system?

What I am hearing from the staunch evolutionistas is fear and intolerance. This is a bad combo. Despite all the suffering in the 20th century, I don't think western industrial society has evolved far enough to make me feel good about the future of believers if such attitudes continue.
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Well, I think it would be kinda cool if religion became classified as a mental disorder, but I wouldn't tell him that.
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I figure it is time to see if people think that I screwed up my arguments and how I might be able to get them back on track. I don't think they will invade here but I broke the link anyway

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I'm not quite sure what the point of that post is. Is he saying he's afraid fundamentalists/religious extremists are going to try attacking medicine the way they have evolution, or is he saying evolution supporters should back down because he's afraid they'll go after medicine next if they aren't placated?
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General Zod wrote:I'm not quite sure what the point of that post is. Is he saying he's afraid fundamentalists/religious extremists are going to try attacking medicine the way they have evolution, or is he saying evolution supporters should back down because he's afraid they'll go after medicine next if they aren't placated?
To me, there seems to be an inhorrant fear among a minority (The votes seem to indicate a minority at least) that non-religious types are going to attempt to persecute religious types.
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