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Kevin Byrne is a man in the prime of his life who feared he had an old man's problems. Last summer, he was devastated by chronic back pain and thought his hips were about to give out.

"I'm thinking, gee, I'm 47 years old and I'm going to need hip replacements already," he said.

The hip pain was the beginning of a strange personal odyssey for Mr. Byrne, a technical writer who lives in Newcastle, a bedroom community east of Toronto. He is now convinced his ailment wasn't a sign of premature aging, but an allergy to one of modern society's ubiquitous substances: electricity.

No one knows how many people are sensitive to electricity. Scientific debate is intense over whether the condition exists or is a figment of people's imagination. Some estimates place the number afflicted at a handful out of every million. Others view it as more common but still a tad unusual, perhaps a few individuals out of every thousand.

Mr. Byrne counts himself among those unlucky few. He began researching the topic when a neighbour expressed the belief that electricity was dangerous. In an act of desperation brought on by constant pain, he did something he initially thought was off-the-wall. He spent $1,000 on filters that, much like surge protectors on a computer, clean up fluctuations and surges in the electricity flowing in the wires around his home.

"When you're in a lot of pain, you'll do just about anything. So I was sort of grasping at non-medical straws," he said. "I didn't think they would work, to tell you the truth. I thought I was probably wasting my money."

But within a couple of days, after months of pain for which his doctor could find no cause, he started feeling fine again. "I said to my wife, 'This has got to be the placebo effect,' " he said, referring to the well-known medical phenomenon of patients reporting that they are cured of illnesses after being given a sugar pill doctors suggest will help them.

Mr. Byrne also noticed another odd health effect after he cleaned up his power, convincing him that electricity was at the root of his problems. Both he and his wife suddenly began to sleep more soundly and his dreams became "incredibly real and very vivid."

Stories such as Mr. Byrne's are not isolated tales. In fact, they're becoming increasingly common, rising in lockstep with homes filled to the brim with electronic gadgets and the proliferation of wireless technologies.

Symptoms of electrical sensitivity include the joint pain Mr. Byrne experienced, but also a bewildering array of other common problems most everyone feels at one time or another, such as fatigue, headaches, poor sleep quality with frequent wakefulness, ringing in the ears, depression, difficulty remembering things, and skin rashes. The list of symptoms has created speculation that some cases of sick building syndrome, where people working in buildings complain of nausea and headaches, might be due to electrical sensitivities.

Madga Havas, an associate professor at the Environmental Studies Department of Trent University who is an expert on the health claims about electricity, says she receives "almost a call a day" from people who say electricity is making them ill and they can't find help in the medical system. "It's not just from Canada. It's usually from the States as well," she says.

She thinks the condition is more widespread than commonly thought, and speculates that for some people, exposure to electricity causes physiological stress, producing symptoms of tiredness, difficulty concentrating and poor sleep.

The possibility of such a widespread health impact from electricity is greeted with skepticism in the electricity industry, where such an effect would have wide-ranging consequences.

"We don't have support to suggest that there is electrosensitivity in members of the population," says Jack Sahl, a manager of safety and environmental issues at Southern California Edison, a large U.S. electricity provider.

The industry position has been bolstered by studies showing that most of those who say they have allergies to electricity are unable consistently to detect the presence of electric currents in laboratory experiments.

Medical authorities and scientific researchers have consequently been baffled over these wide-ranging claims of ill health, not only in Canada and the United States but in Britain and other European countries. In Sweden, the electrically sensitive are so numerous they have established their own self-help and lobby group.

Those with the condition bristle at suggestions their symptoms are imaginary. "This is not psychosomatic at all. . . . We're not delusional," says Susan Stankavich, who lives near Albany, N.Y., and says her problems developed after a large cellphone tower was erected near her home. She's had debilitating headaches, among other symptoms, and can barely tolerate being under fluorescent lights.

Reacting to this rising tide of claims of a new illness, the World Health Organization issued a fact sheet in December on the allergies, which it dubbed "electromagnetic hypersensitivity" and likened it to multiple chemical sensitivities.

The WHO says the "symptoms are certainly real" and "can be a disabling problem for the affected individual."

Reports about sensitivity to electricity began with the introduction of computers, predating the recent spread of Wi-Fi and cellphone towers, which release a related but more powerful type of electromagnetic energy than that produced around electric wires.

There have been long-running concerns about the possible health effects of electricity because it is a source of both electric and magnetic fields, invisible lines of force that surround all power lines and any power-consuming device, from the lowly kitchen toaster to a computer. Electric fields are always present near power wires and appliances, even when devices are turned off, but magnetic fields are generated only when devices are on.

The nerves in living things work on electrical impulses. So do other biological processes, such as the voltages in hearts detected using electrocardiographs. This has given rise to worries that man-made electricity fields, to which humans were never exposed before the modern era, might be biologically active, just like chemical pollutants.

The WHO has been looking at electrical sensitivity as one aspect of a larger investigation into the health effects of the cocktail of electromagnetic fields enveloping people in modern societies via everything from power lines to cellphones. It says that exposure to electromagnetic fields represents "one of the most common and fastest growing environmental influences, about which there is anxiety and speculation spreading."

Until now, most of the medical researchers looking at electricity and health have searched for links to cancer, rather than the fatigue-related symptoms the electrically sensitive claim.

The cancer research has linked childhood leukemia to power-line magnetic fields. About 5 per cent of the U.S. population is regularly exposed to fields of the strength associated with leukemia in children, a percentage that is probably similar in Canada. For adult leukemia and brain tumours, some studies have found links to electricity, as they have with Lou Gehrig's disease, but the research is less conclusive than that for childhood leukemia.

Richard Stevens, an epidemiologist at the University of Connecticut Health Center, has been studying electricity for nearly two decades, and first advanced the hypothesis that the use of electricity is a factor behind the rise in some cancer rates in developed countries. He says there is strong evidence linking the use of night lighting to cancer because exposure to light at night disrupts people's production of the hormone melatonin.

But he's unsure what impact the fields around electric wiring and devices might be having. Some studies have found that magnetic fields suppress melatonin in animals, something that might explain the allergy-like symptoms, but this effect hasn't been observed in humans. "Whether or not magnetic fields have any effect at all, I do not know," Dr. Stevens says.

The allergy-like symptoms are a far different medical condition than the cancers Dr. Stevens studies, and some researchers are speculating that a possible culprit is the recent deterioration in the quality of electricity flowing in power wires.

Power quality is a well-known problem in the utility business, caused by the proliferation of computers, lighting dimmer switches, energy efficient bulbs, and other modern electronic gadgets. These new devices cause a more complicated use pattern for electricity than old-fashioned items such as incandescent bulbs, producing negative feedback involving high-frequency peaks, harmonics and other noise on electric wiring.

The way to picture the quality effect is to imagine that electricity is like water flowing in a pipe. An incandescent bulb uses electricity steadily, just like an open tap allows a constant flow into the sink. Computers and other modern devices use power in variable amounts, similar to turning the tap on and off, or any setting in between, causing water pipes to clang.

This deterioration in power quality has been going on for years and would have likely escaped public notice, except that when home computers became popular in the 1990s they would frequently crash or malfunction because of it.

The change in power quality means more variable electromagnetic fields, and possibly more biologically active ones, are associated with electricity than there used to be. This is a possible explanation for the rise in electrosensitivity complaints in the view of Denis Henshaw, a professor at the University of Bristol in Britain, who is an international authority on the health effects of power transmission lines.

He says that if electricity were flowing in a constant way, most people's bodies would likely adapt, but with all the interference from modern devices, the resulting fields are too variable for people to get used to. "We just don't get to adapt to these because they don't have any special pattern to them," he said. "There is no proof of this, it's just an opinion."

In Canada, Dr. Havas has been investigating whether the deterioration in power quality has led to sensitivity. To this end, she's been installing filters that clean up the interference on electrical wires to see if people notice.

In 2003, she installed filters in a Toronto private school where a student was electrically sensitive for a six-week test, three weeks with the devices and three weeks without them. Half of the teachers who responded to her questionnaire said they felt health improvements, such as being able to concentrate better and feeling less tired, when the filters were in place. Even more unusual, the teachers, who were not told what the research was about, reported that 60 per cent of their classes showed improvements in student behaviour when the filters were installed.

Based on this finding, Dr. Havas estimates that perhaps half of the population may have some sensitivity to electricity.

In another test, she installed filters in the homes of people with multiple sclerosis, a disease that might be reactive to electricity because it is associated with poor sheathing on nerves. Brad Blumbergs, 29, says his MS improved so much last year that he could walk without shaking and could even run again. "It allows me to retire my cane," he said. "It hasn't cured me, but my symptoms are a percentage of what they used to be," Mr. Blumbergs said.

Dr. Havas has presented some of these findings at scientific conferences on electrosensitivity, but the work hasn't appeared in the gold standard of research, the peer-reviewed scientific journals that would confer more legitimacy on the results.

The utility industry's Mr. Sahl is skeptical about efforts to improve power quality, which generally cost about $1,000 to handle one home, and calls them a "waste of money."

He agrees that the action may make some people feel better, but only because they're affected by the power of suggestion and not by the power of electricity. "I hate to be blunt about it, but there is this well-established effect in science and we've studied it over and over and it's called the placebo effect."

That doesn't ring true to Mr. Byrne. He says his sensitivity might have been prompted by his decision last year to conserve energy by replacing much of his home's simple incandescent lighting with high-efficiency compact fluorescent bulbs, some brands of which cause the power-quality problem.

He's become so convinced that electricity can make people sick that he's set up a website, offering tips to fellow sufferers on how to alleviate their symptoms, such as urging them to throw out their dimmer switches and limiting exposures to electronic gadgets. When it comes to electricity, Mr. Byrne says, "I think people should automatically begin changing their lifestyles."
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And not a single reference to a double-blind test in sight. What a shock.

And the idea that fluctuations in the power line could be causing problems is even more ridiculous than the idea that electricity itself is causing problems, because these fluctuations are very small in comparison to the absolute voltage.

It sounds to me like somebody sold him some snake-oil products and he bought into the bullshit claims.
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Darth Wong wrote:And not a single reference to a double-blind test in sight. What a shock.

And the idea that fluctuations in the power line could be causing problems is even more ridiculous than the idea that electricity itself is causing problems, because these fluctuations are very small in comparison to the absolute voltage.

It sounds to me like somebody sold him some snake-oil products and he bought into the bullshit claims.
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The industry position has been bolstered by studies showing that most of those who say they have allergies to electricity are unable consistently to detect the presence of electric currents in laboratory experiments.
While the article is rather alarmist it does show that the tests show its mostly placebo.[/quote]
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I'd have to see something more concrete for this. While allergies to bizarre things can be extreme (there are people allergic to water, only something that makes up 80% of your body), an electric field having this kind of effect seems a little odd.
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Need get me some of those filters, the million is mine. oh, wait, I'm not a complete idiot, that's right, I belive in real medicine. Nevermind.

And I see we have classic woo speak:
He says that if electricity were flowing in a constant way, most people's bodies would likely adapt, but with all the interference from modern devices, the resulting fields are too variable for people to get used to. "We just don't get to adapt to these because they don't have any special pattern to them," he said. "There is no proof of this, it's just an opinion."
This deterioration in power quality has been going on for years and would have likely escaped public notice, except that when home computers became popular in the 1990s they would frequently crash or malfunction because of it.
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Let's think about the science of this claim: he claims that the fluctuating strength of magnetic fields due to uneven line voltage is causing problems, and if you put a filter on the line, this problem goes away.

But the strength of a magnetic field goes up or down very dramatically with distance from the source, and those fluctuations will dwarf any fluctuations due to uneven line voltage because as you walk around your house, the distance between you and appliances or power lines in the wall goes drastically up and down continuously.

So the idea that line filters would make a difference is utterly absurd, even without doing medical studies on it. We're talking basic physics here; if the person wants to avoid fluctuations in magnetic field strength around his body, he should try not moving for a while.
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An allergy is an immune system overreaction, right? What sort of mechanism could cause an immune reaction to electricity?
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Surlethe wrote:An allergy is an immune system overreaction, right? What sort of mechanism could cause an immune reaction to electricity?
Something that really screws with your body's electromagnetic field, but we're talking many Teslas for that sort of thing which you will simply not find in an MRI, letalone a home electrics system. Allergies are caused by IgE for the most part, and you don't affect antibodies with electric fields, though it could be possible to screw with the B-cells that make them (again, this requires a massive field that won't be present here).

In other words, it could be possible, albeit, affecting your whole body, but in this case, it sounds like something mentally produced.
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I think it's time for someone to start marketing the "Faraday Cage Protective Bed Suite". Only 4 easy payments of $299.99!
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Darth Wong wrote:I think it's time for someone to start marketing the "Faraday Cage Protective Bed Suite". Only 4 easy payments of $299.99!
Hmmm, you are onto something there. Through in some Trekest technobabble about frequencies and quantum flux and you could have a goldmine. Provided you have 0 ethics are don't mind that whole fraud charges thing, of course the US justice system is very slow to react to such things, so plenty of time to move shop.
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"I'm thinking, gee, I'm 47 years old and I'm going to need hip replacements already," he said.
Big deal. Hip replacements for that age group are not unheard-of. Does he expect us to believe that arthritis is caused by electricity?
Symptoms of electrical sensitivity include the joint pain Mr. Byrne experienced, but also a bewildering array of other common problems most everyone feels at one time or another, such as fatigue, headaches, poor sleep quality with frequent wakefulness, ringing in the ears, depression, difficulty remembering things, and skin rashes.
So it can cause almost any completely subjective, nearly untestable condition, but cannot cause any condition that can be objectively verified. How convenient for them.
She thinks the condition is more widespread than commonly thought, and speculates that for some people, exposure to electricity causes physiological stress, producing symptoms of tiredness, difficulty concentrating and poor sleep.
How did she reach this conclusion?
The possibility of such a widespread health impact from electricity is greeted with skepticism in the electricity industry, where such an effect would have wide-ranging consequences.
Of course it is only the greedy corporations that oppose this idea. Notice the ONLY quote in opposition is from a greedy company, while all the other quotes are from a few scientists endorsing this position and a couple people who claims to suffer from it. If they consulted any scientists who disagree with this position, there is no evidence in the article.
"We don't have support to suggest that there is electrosensitivity in members of the population," says Jack Sahl, a manager of safety and environmental issues at Southern California Edison, a large U.S. electricity provider.
Sounds like there was a bit more to his statement than just this. Sounds like a bit of selective quotation.
The cancer research has linked childhood leukemia to power-line magnetic fields. About 5 per cent of the U.S. population is regularly exposed to fields of the strength associated with leukemia in children, a percentage that is probably similar in Canada. For adult leukemia and brain tumours, some studies have found links to electricity, as they have with Lou Gehrig's disease, but the research is less conclusive than that for childhood leukemia.
Those studies have been discredited for years. The fact that they would even mention them in a favorable light, not to mention leaving out the fact that the idea has been completely rejected, seriously damages their credibility.
In another test, she installed filters in the homes of people with multiple sclerosis, a disease that might be reactive to electricity because it is associated with poor sheathing on nerves. Brad Blumbergs, 29, says his MS improved so much last year that he could walk without shaking and could even run again. "It allows me to retire my cane," he said. "It hasn't cured me, but my symptoms are a percentage of what they used to be," Mr. Blumbergs said.
Come on! Variability in symptoms is not only expected in MS, it is a classic symptom. It is also extremely temperature-dependant, so seasonal changes will alter symptoms
Reacting to this rising tide of claims of a new illness, the World Health Organization issued a fact sheet in December on the allergies, which it dubbed "electromagnetic hypersensitivity" and likened it to multiple chemical sensitivities.

The WHO says the "symptoms are certainly real" and "can be a disabling problem for the affected individual."
WOW. I just checked the WHO report in question here, and the author or authors of this article just lost what little credibility they had left. They selectively extracted only those parts of the report that support their conclusion and completely ignored those that didn't, making it look like the WHO somehow recognizes their position as correct. I guess they expected their readers to be too lazy to actually check for themselves. Here are a few other excerpts from the report that they failed to mention:
EHS has no clear diagnostic criteria and there is no scientific basis to link EHS symptoms to EMF exposure. Further, EHS is not a medical diagnosis, nor is it clear that it represents a single medical problem.
Physicians: Treatment of affected inviduals should focus on the health symptoms and the clinical picture, and not on the person's percieved need for reducing or eliminating EMF in the workplace or home
Studies on EHS Individuals
A number of studies have been conducted where EHS individuals were exposed to EMF similar to those that they attritubed to to the cause of their symptoms. The aim was to elicit symptoms under controlled laboratory conditions.
Note that this article mentioned the same studies but failed to mention the critical fact that the EMF signals were similar to the ones they thought caused their symptoms.
The majority of studies indicate that EHS individuals cannot detect EMF exposure any more accurately than non-EHS individuals. Well controlled and conducted double-blind studies have shown that symptoms were not correlated to EMF exposure.
There are the double-blind studies you were looking for, Darth Wong.
It has been suggested that symptoms experienced by some EHS individuals might arise from environmental factors unrelated to EMF. Examples include "flicker" from fluorescent lights, glare and other visual problems with VDU's, and poor ergonomic design of computer workstations.
Note that excluding ergonomics, the things they listed are all cl;assic migraine triggers. Note that many of the the symptoms listed are also symptoms of migraines. I am not saying these are migraines, but it is something to keep in mind. I would not be surpirsed if some of these people had non-classic migraine symptoms, or even classi ones, and didn't know it (I did for about 19 years before I learned I had migraines).

The report goes on about other non-EMF reasons for the symptoms, but those are the important bits this article left out.

I know some people might get upset that this is an argument from authority, but they are the ones who brought the WHO into this not me. I am simply showing that the WHO position is the exact opposite of how they present it.
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Darth Wong wrote:I think it's time for someone to start marketing the "Faraday Cage Protective Bed Suite". Only 4 easy payments of $299.99!
There are lots of so-called electricity-allergic people around here. Some of them even have "faraday cage clothes", which is basically a metal net woven into the clothes' fabric. But the funniest thing they ever did was to set up a huge metal net between their house and the neighbour's, because the neighbour had a wireless phone. I'm sure it protected them :lol:

Of course, one have to remember that it's not just electricity that these people are usually allergic to, but also magnetism (but only from electrical wires or anything "unnatural") and electromagnetic radiation (but only if it's from a visible source, like an antenna or cell phone).


And then there was the guy on the bus who said that my cell phone (which I hadn't even switched on when he said it) was making him feel sick. He must not have noticed the other fifteen people that were talking in their phones... And the middle of a bus full of teenagers is the last place you would want to be if you really were allergic to such phones, so he was stupid either way :lol:
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Ha! I knew I had a reason for installing a large isolation transformer in my breaker box! :)

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In all seriousness, dirty power can cause some hiss & background noise in audio gear with poorly designed power supplies, and may marginally degrade the picture quality of TVs. Beyond that, it's not going to do a thing. Computers use switch-mode power supplies and those things unaffected by noise in the lines, all they care about is that the voltage is within 10% or so of nominal. You can take a 120V/60Hz power line and put 5-10V of white noise into it and the switch-mode supplies will just laugh at it while the computer keeps on ticking.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:I'd have to see something more concrete for this. While allergies to bizarre things can be extreme (there are people allergic to water, only something that makes up 80% of your body), an electric field having this kind of effect seems a little odd.
I've never understood this. I acknowledge that such an allergy exists, but wouldn't drinking anything result in an allergic reaction? What about existing (as you say, 80%... I thought it was 70% :S)? Humid weather? Sweating? and so on.
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defanatic wrote: I've never understood this. I acknowledge that such an allergy exists, but wouldn't drinking anything result in an allergic reaction? What about existing (as you say, 80%... I thought it was 70% :S)? Humid weather? Sweating? and so on.
It depends.......... My pal is allergic to sweat, and another was allergic to grass. Depending on the exposure time, he could break out in rashes all over, go into hives or just complain and whine about being uncomfortable.
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