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"Imaginary Weapons," Whole Lotta Fun

In the fall of 2003, defense industry reporter Sharon Weinberger was sitting through yet another Capitol Hill briefing on Pentagon weaponry, when a fellow in the back of the room mentioned something called a "hafnium bomb." Weinberger had never heard of it. So she turned around and asked the guy what the hell a hafnium bomb was.

The question started Weinberger on a two-year "journey through the Pentagon's scientific underground." By the time she was done, Weinberger had run into eavesdropping kittens, wormhole builders, antimatter rocketeers, psychic CIA agents, intelligent designists, and cold fusion true believers. But most importantly, she became deeply intertwined with a far-flung coalition of Defense Department-backed scientists who believed that they could construct nuclear hand grenades out of bits of the radioactive isotope hafnium-178 -- despite mountains of evidence to the contrary. It's all chronicled in Weinberger's fascinating, disturbing, wickedly funny new book, Imaginary Weapons.

Weinberger's story centers around Carl Collins, a Texas scientist turned nuclear Don Quixote, who convinces Pentagon and Energy Department officials to spend millions on his jousts with the laws of physics. The fact his windmill-tilting relies on a second-hand X-ray machine, taken from a dentist's office, doesn't seem to matter. Or that his Romanian wife has a sketchy choke-hold over the hafnium supply. Or that every scientific panel the Pentagon assembles calls Collins' work bunk. Or that no reputable physicist can replicate his hafnium experiments.

Luckily for Collins, "no one remembers the failure," Weinberger quotes Darpa chief Tony Tether as saying. "That allows us to try again and again… Darpa is Groundhog Day. We do things over and over again." For years, it seems, Tether and others in Defense Department woke up every morning convinced that the Russians were about to have a hafnium bomb. It took a near-Herculean effort to finally persuade them that it might not be true.

In the book – and over the next few days, in a series of exclusive posts for Defense Tech – Weinberger shows how dangerous the amnesiac attitude is for the nation's security. But God, is it good for readers. Weinberger is a master observer, capturing the sights and sounds surrounding the inanity and near-insanity of military fringe science, from the puffed-up research claims to the hushed denials, based on questionable secrecy. Scientists wax poetic about the beauty of mushroom clouds. Google searches for hafnium turn up an Alabama physicist, who sees the isomer's intricacy as a sign of intelligent design. Supposedly landmark experiments are commemorated by stryfoam cups marked "Dr. C's memorial target holder." Imaginary Weapons can lay the physics on a little thick for the lay reader, at times. But mostly, accompanying Weinberger on her trip through the Pentagon's pseudo-science netherworld is madcap, farcical fun. Here's an excerpt:

Hafnium went to the Pentagon by way of New Mexico, helped along by a cadre of believers in the Air Force. One of those, of course, was Forrest "Jack" Agee, the Air Force scientist in charge of funding basic physics. He was the man who, in 1999, started funding Collins, while also publishing with him.

In early 2004, I went to visit Agee at his office in Arlington, Virginia.

Standing in front of the nondescript building that housed the Air Force Office of Scientific Research, I stopped for a moment to take in the gray façade that showed little sign of military occupancy. Office workers shuttled in and out of the multistory building, and it wasn't until I arrived at the Air Force's floor that a halfhearted attempt at military security was on display. A sullen woman reading a copy of People shoved a red badge at me, barely glancing at my press credentials.

Agee, once described to me as the eminence grise behind isomers, smiled as I entered his office and extended his hand like a caretaker greeting a mourning relative on their way to buy a casket. It was the last time he smiled. With dark-tinted glasses and a dour demeanor, Agee did not seem like the type of military official to give interviews, and I was surprised, in fact, that he had agreed to speak to me at all. Maybe he was surprised, too, because as soon as we sat down at the small oval table in his office, he immediately looked uncomfortable. Seated at the table, I noticed that Agee had a corner office, but with the windows blocked at every angle by adjacent buildings, casting the room in a permanent gloomy haze.

To Agee's right sat a public affairs official, and to his left, a security officer, who as Agee explained, was there to make sure he didn't say anything classified.

What secrets could accidentally slip out, I wondered?...

When I asked him about the controversial nature of the [hafnium] work, particularly the scientific debate around Collins's hafnium triggering experiment, Agee frowned deeply. "I know that work is going on around the world in this area," he said. "We are familiar with a number of countries that are pursuing this."

Agee paused for a moment to clear his throat and glanced out the window with its plaintive view of the next building—perhaps thinking about the legions of foreign countries that could be eavesdropping on our conversation about dreaded isomer weapons.

He cleared his throat again, and then continued: "It was a surprise that Japanese torpedoes worked in a shallow harbor in 1941. We were technologically surprised by that and with awesome impact. So, the fact that there are countries other than ours that are working on this, well, we better be able to know what this is about whether we ever find an application for it or not, in case others find that." …

I was struck that just about every government scientist I'd met had described their job as preventing "technological surprise," but something like the isomer weapon was only a threat if it worked, or had a reasonable chance of working, I pointed out… An expert panel of scientists had essentially said the hafnium bomb couldn't work, or at least had about as much a chance of being a bomb as a jelly donut. Was there really any legitimate fear of isomer bombs raining down on the United States anytime in the near-to-distant future?

Agee scoffed.

"We rely on more than just a few days' review by some panel—albeit populated by smart people," he said.

UPDATE 06/14/06 12:06 PM: Carl Collins drops by to respond, here.
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You know, it doesn't really surprise me. I remember reading Richard Feynman's autobiography, where he reported that he had had a discussion with a US military officer that wanted to fund a project for tanks that could burn sand to get unlimited fuel in desert operations IIRC. He was so proud of his 'genius idea' that no matter what basic chemistry Feynman tried to explain him, he clung to it with a lightyear-thick Wall of Ignorance. And that was several decades ago.
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Something to keep in mind the next time some jackass tries to defend fringe pseudoscience by saying that the Pentagon is researching it. They'll research anything.
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Darth Wong wrote:Something to keep in mind the next time some jackass tries to defend fringe pseudoscience by saying that the Pentagon is researching it. They'll research anything.
Yeah and what about 1% turns out anything useful the rest is a waste of time. Granted even business do the same thing just not on the same scale as the Pentagon.
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I can vaguely see Superspy Geneered Kittens and Psychic CIA Agents just because if the one-in-a-billion odds pay off we'd have an awesome advantage in the Intelligence. Of course, I don't think we really need it now, but the Pentagon hardly noticed the fact that the USSR stopped playing the game apparantly.

But Intelligent Design? What the fuck sort of national defense objective does investigating that serve?
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The military will fund anything within reason so as to ascertain its effects. If the Soviets, for instance, were to somehow come across a weapon that was counter-intuitive to our knowledge and further elucidated the laws of science, then we'd be up shit creek. Most of this stuff is sheer quackery, but sometimes you may get something surprising.
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It's great to know that the Defense Department is run by idiot wankers who can't separate reality from Command & Conquer. It's a wonder we don't have people seriously proposing Tesla coils, solid state lasers, cyborg squid and psychic TMDs as viable weapons systems.
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I seem to recall the story of the CIA spycat ending when it got run over by a car on an outside test run. Apparently, they'd replaced most of its brain with a control device/surveillance equipment, so that it was basically a biological RC car, and they just weren't very good drivers.
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Darth Raptor wrote:It's great to know that the Defense Department is run by idiot wankers who can't separate reality from Command & Conquer. It's a wonder we don't have people seriously proposing Tesla coils, solid state lasers, cyborg squid and psychic TMDs as viable weapons systems.
Well, actually, cybernetically enhanced animals aren't a new thing. We've been using dolphins and sea lions with hardware to help find frogmen or mines in the ocean. Solid-state lasers are in existence with systems such as Zeus. Tesla coils are used as a part of any high energy research where large voltage discharges are needed, though UV laser based stun-gun systems would be closer to Tesla's weapon systems.
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Quadlok wrote:I seem to recall the story of the CIA spycat ending when it got run over by a car on an outside test run. Apparently, they'd replaced most of its brain with a control device/surveillance equipment, so that it was basically a biological RC car, and they just weren't very good drivers.
This sounds extremely interesting, yet I'm very skeptical that they were able to interface with the brain properly. Got a source for this?
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Mostly any defense related research is just research into the effects of flushing large quantities of money down the toilet. Occasionally something good does come up, but equipping dolphins with lasers to hunt (or some such nonsensery) is limited in its efficacy to late night wankfests.
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EDIT: to hunt frogmen :oops:
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MRDOD wrote: But Intelligent Design? What the fuck sort of national defense objective does investigating that serve?
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Quadlok wrote:I seem to recall the story of the CIA spycat ending when it got run over by a car on an outside test run. Apparently, they'd replaced most of its brain with a control device/surveillance equipment, so that it was basically a biological RC car, and they just weren't very good drivers.
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It's extremely unlikely that this is true. "Replacing" parts of a brain with electronics successfully is, as far as I know, impossible with current technology.
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nickolay1 wrote:It's extremely unlikely that this is true. "Replacing" parts of a brain with electronics successfully is, as far as I know, impossible with current technology.
Hence the "if this story is true" part. :P It didn't sound likely to me, but the idea is enough to send shivers through my spine.
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nickolay1 wrote:It's extremely unlikely that this is true. "Replacing" parts of a brain with electronics successfully is, as far as I know, impossible with current technology.
I didn't say it worked will, but its true enough that they tried, at least true enough for a relatively reputable source like George Washington University to mention it. I origionally heard about it a few years back on some NPR interview, I think with an author who had followed a path similar to the one in the OP.

From everything I've heard and read it was more a highjacking of the autonomous nervous system by means of electroshock than any sort of cyborging, I mispoke in my first post and I apologize for that.
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Oops, ghetto edit: should be well not will, and they mention the remote controlled cat in the last sentence of the penultimate paragraph on the page I linked to. You can find out more about the remote controlled cat via a simple query on your search engine of choice.
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You know the trick of putting ducttap eon a cat and it will walk different because of it? It's like that, just with electrodes instead of a guy with a roll of ducttape, following the cat...
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wilfulton wrote:Mostly any defense related research is just research into the effects of flushing large quantities of money down the toilet. Occasionally something good does come up, but equipping dolphins with lasers to hunt (or some such nonsensery) is limited in its efficacy to late night wankfests.
Wasn't this actually fairly effective? It's not like they're armed, they're just trained to find things. Like underwater search dogs.
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Quadlok wrote:I seem to recall the story of the CIA spycat ending when it got run over by a car on an outside test run. Apparently, they'd replaced most of its brain with a control device/surveillance equipment, so that it was basically a biological RC car, and they just weren't very good drivers.
For some reason, I'm finding this story highly amusing. 8)
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The DoD will research anything, and its a good thing too. We find more stuff out by accident then we do by searching. Consider SETI - frankly, its more out there then some of the projects listed here. Yet through it we found out about Pulsars, Magnestars, and via those a ton about physics.
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Pulsars were discovered in 1968. SETI was started substantially later.

The telescope that SETI uses has discovered many things; but it was not SETI that built it.
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drachefly wrote:Pulsars were discovered in 1968. SETI was started substantially later.

The telescope that SETI uses has discovered many things; but it was not SETI that built it.
However there is also the SETI program that was a hell of a useful program tool for using vast amounts of unessary CPU resources to exaime tons of data that normaly would take a very, very expensive supercomputer farm. And it of course was an off-shoot of a DoD decenterlisation program to help increase our response time during an nuclear attack.

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Weinberger's story centers around Carl Collins, a Texas scientist turned nuclear Don Quixote, who convinces Pentagon and Energy Department officials to spend millions on his jousts with the laws of physics.
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